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geo321 says...

No worries. I'll try and check in on the playlist from time to time.
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tried to add you, but the interface appears to be broken.
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Cool! It's a great resource to have.
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sweet ... someone finally checked out my dupes playlist! I can make it a group playlist if you'd like to contribute to it.
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A Fascinatingly Disturbing Thought - Neil DeGrasse Tyson

vaire2ube says...

Tyson is talking about arbitrary scales to make a correlation ... he is admitting there is no way to know exactly what is going on.... but it IS inside the 1-2%.

"Everything that we are, that is not the chimp, is not as smart compared to the chimp as we tell ourselves.

Maybe the difference between combining motions for sign language and building a space shuttle isnt as big as we think.

How do we decide? Imagine another life form, 1% different from us, in the direction we are different from the chimp. Think about that."


Now do you see? He is using a what if. You think his what-if is faulty based on what? He is using Occam's Razor and all of his scientific method, and the direction he is heading in is quite logical. Almost perfectly logical.

A Fascinatingly Disturbing Thought - Neil DeGrasse Tyson

Deano says...

>> ^messenger:

Of course DNA determines everything. The difference is Neil is suggesting there's a 1% intelligence difference between us and chimps because there's a 1% difference in DNA, and that this ratio has a "direction", so all other changes in that "direction" would have equally significant impacts on our intelligence. @Enzoblue is saying that the development of human language is by far the most significant advantage caused by the 1% difference in DNA, and the advantage is much more than a mere 1%; an additional 1% along that "direction" wouldn't necessarily allow us to learn some other skill that would give us as great an advantage.
Personally, I think Neil's idea of the 1% difference being ratio-able (rational?) and describing it as having a "direction" is silly.>> ^vaire2ube:
I don't understand; The ability to have the capability for language comes from our genes. It is the reason, just as he says... what sort of sciences do you study where DNA isnt everything? it is.
>> ^Enzoblue:
To me it's a mistake to blame our advantage over animals on a 1 percent genetic difference and he seems to be stuck on this. The difference between us and animals is language - that ability to abstract, replacing things we see in the world with words that we can then manipulate in our own minds. This gives us consciousness. It's a big leap. It's not like you can then scale that, make a 2 percent difference, and think that it would double that leap.




Having just watched the video it was my impression that he's articulating an assumption, an assertion and is not claiming it as fact. It's closer to a thought experiment than making a definitive statement about the precise gaps between species and the subsequent implications.

A Fascinatingly Disturbing Thought - Neil DeGrasse Tyson

messenger says...

Of course DNA determines everything. The difference is Neil is suggesting there's a 1% intelligence difference between us and chimps because there's a 1% difference in DNA, and that this ratio has a "direction", so all other changes in that "direction" would have equally significant impacts on our intelligence. @Enzoblue is saying that the development of human language is by far the most significant advantage caused by the 1% difference in DNA, and the advantage is much more than a mere 1%; an additional 1% along that "direction" wouldn't necessarily allow us to learn some other skill that would give us as great an advantage.

Personally, I think Neil's idea of the 1% difference being ratio-able (rational?) and describing it as having a "direction" is silly.>> ^vaire2ube:

I don't understand; The ability to have the capability for language comes from our genes. It is the reason, just as he says... what sort of sciences do you study where DNA isnt everything? it is.
>> ^Enzoblue:
To me it's a mistake to blame our advantage over animals on a 1 percent genetic difference and he seems to be stuck on this. The difference between us and animals is language - that ability to abstract, replacing things we see in the world with words that we can then manipulate in our own minds. This gives us consciousness. It's a big leap. It's not like you can then scale that, make a 2 percent difference, and think that it would double that leap.


A Fascinatingly Disturbing Thought - Neil DeGrasse Tyson



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