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>> ^VoodooV:

Or are you suggesting that the left just don't give a shit and say fuck'em if they don't be more reasonable, walk away from the negotiating table and commit to a 2nd American Civil War?

Mostly I'm saying the other side has already walked away from the table.

I don't really think they've quite committed to a full-on armed conflict yet, but I really feel like it's just a matter of time.
>> ^VoodooV:
When you step back and realize that all sides think the same thing about the other side, you start to realize just how absurd this shit is and that BOTH SIDES ARE FUCKED UP!!!! If you can't at least be aware of that absurdity...then we're doomed.


But we're not in some sort of mirror-image situation. When examining the policy proposals of Republicans, I generally think "bad policy that will make things get worse over time". Their view of us on the other hand is almost always some apocalyptic nonsense like "it will be the end of freedom," and we've even seen them talk about universal healthcare as if it'll be genocide.

I don't really think I (or the left generally) have all the right answers, or that our way of dealing with issues is the only way to do things. The right on the other hand is certain that their way isn't just the best way, it's the only morally acceptable way for things to be, and they are outraged, OUTRAGED that anyone thinks differently. They see their political preferences not as a mere point of view, but as if they are the natural order of things, and that people who want to do things differently are either a) fools who don't understand how the world works, or b) evil people trying to escape the consequences of their actions.

Mostly these days I think of conservatives as being in one giant cult.

Take a look at this, from Wikipedia's entry on cults:

Studies have identified a number of key steps in coercive persuasion:

• People are put in physical or emotionally distressing situations;
  
• Their problems are reduced to one simple explanation, which is repeatedly emphasized;
  
• They receive what seems to be unconditional love, acceptance, and attention from a charismatic leader or group;
  
• They get a new identity based on the group;
  
• They are subject to entrapment (isolation from friends, relatives and the mainstream culture) and their access to information is severely controlled.

People who have decided "both sides" are exactly the same will say "but the left is a cult too!" But that flies in the face of reality. What's the "one simple explanation" for everything that liberals have, and always repeat? Do they go around rejecting scientific studies, or economic statistics that don't come from an explicitly liberal source? Hell, is there any sort of strong sense of identity liberals have? Do we give unconditional acceptance to other liberals (hint: watch Cenk Uygur)?

I don't know how we get the right to change their ways, but we won't do it by pretending that the left can fix it by just changing their own behavior.

The part before the interview is a dupe of this video of @marinara's. I would have tubechopped it, but it's a good intro to the interview.

Not sure if this counts officially as a dupe since there's a lot of good additional content after.

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Enjoyed the vid, but I have to say I really stopped watching most of Maddow's stuff lately, she seems to try to perpetuate the myth that there is actually a divide between Republicans and Democrats. It reminds me of when Cenk Uygur was on MSNBC last year, after a while you could literally see him transform into someone trying to barrack for the Dem's (for reasons he later detailed when he left the network).

Yes I know she points out some bad points about the Democrats too, but overall her discussion seems to be pretty twisted away from the reality of the present political climate and more towards, 'let's get people to believe that the bad stuff is happening because of the GOP and the de facto good guys must therefore be ..... '. It's not always explicit that it's the Democrats she wants you to support, but it's pretty damn obvious.

I do like her as a reporter, if there was one reporter I wished had greater freedom of expression it would be her, I just wish she had the balls (figuratively) to do what Cenk did.

>> ^deathcow:

evolution : )


Yeah, I liked that too.

>> ^EvilDeathBee:

Whenever I listen to Al Gore, I think of this and giggle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHVxjMT1-os


For me it's: http://videosift.com/video/Al-Gore-hears-a-cry-for-help

Cenk Uygur Joins Current TV:
http://videosift.com/video/Cenk-Uygur-Joins-Current-TV