You want to name the tower after the reason why they attacked America? Funny, the "US military bases on Musilm holy ground, and other foreign policy policies Tower" just doesn't have a good ring to it.


And lol @ "We don't run out of burning buildings, we run into them!" I know he was trying to say: save people, but it was funny when he said it. Holy crap a burning building, lets run into it! =D

>> ^videosiftbannedme:
Why does Glenn Beck always look like the first guy who loses it in a platoon when they come under enemy fire? Or the asshole that pushes kids out of the way to escape a burning building.



He was the guy in highschool was too fat and too much of a pussy to play sports, too stupid to do well academically, not sophisticated enough to engineer or be part of the arts program, and too hated to be in student politics.

So he had only one other option; picking on poor kids.

>> ^videosiftbannedme:
Why does Glenn Beck always look like the first guy who loses it in a platoon when they come under enemy fire? Or the asshole that pushes kids out of the way to escape a burning building.
He just has that persona to me. Am I alone in this?


Nope, I totally agree. He's like George Costanza only not the least bit likable.

Why does Glenn Beck always look like the first guy who loses it in a platoon when they come under enemy fire? Or the asshole that pushes kids out of the way to escape a burning building.

He just has that persona to me. Am I alone in this?

Downvote because of Russel Brand. If there was a video of him saving 50 children out of a burning building, I would still downvote it. Can't stand him.

Seems a direct violation of, "First, do no harm."

These patients should have to pay for all medical treatment out of their own pockets, even as citizens in countries with socialized medicine.

They should also be barred from all government aid associated with their condition and barred from suing anyone on account of their chosen "disability".

Even after all that, these patients are making themselves an additional burden on others whether intended or not. A firefighter has to run upstairs in a burning building to save you because your legs were voluntarily removed?

There is no objective value to life. It is purely subjective, and up to everyone to determine for themselves. I say that conscious life is the most valuable thing in the universe, but honestly that's not saying very much. Even if you believe as I do, you must then have the discussion of when "consciousness" is present or not. When does a fetus become conscious? Are animals conscious? Which animals? Why is it ok to eat some animals, but not others?

Even among the conscious life, we all subconsciously put life on a value scale. In a burning building, do you save the five year old, or the eight-five year old first? Do you legislate safety regulations so much that people can't leave their houses? Life is dangerous, where do you draw the line of "life vs. freedom"?

Should criminal behavior be subject to the death penalty? Who is to say that a person behind bars can't still contribute to society? It is often cheaper to keep a person in prison for life rather than prosecute for the death penalty. Can we justify spending more money to kill somebody? Very strange to hear that argument from the so-called religious people. I guess some people's reality is more subjective than others.

And don't get me started on those crazy fundamentalists who support war...

From your own link:

FACT: Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength — and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."

"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent." NIST also believes that a great deal of the spray-on fireproofing insulation was likely knocked off the steel beams that were in the path of the crashing jets, leaving the metal more vulnerable to the heat.

The Madrid fire burned for 24 hours at temperatures up to 800°C (1500°F) and did not collapse. In 2004, Venezuela's tallest building burned uncontrolled for 17 hours and did not collapse. WTC7 had two small fires which burned for 6 hours and it collapsed in what looks like a controlled demolition.


When the tapes from 9/11 firefighters in were released, there was no mention of communication problems as we were told, and firefighters only reported small pockets of fire, not a huge inferno that can melt steel.

Two hose lines are needed, Chief Orio Palmer says from an upper floor of the badly damaged south tower at the World Trade Center. Just two hose lines to attack two isolated pockets of fire. ''We should be able to knock it down with two lines,'' he tells the firefighters of Ladder Company 15 who were following him up the stairs of the doomed tower.

Lt. Joseph G. Leavey is heard responding: ''Orio, we're on 78, but we're in the B stairway. Trapped in here. We got to put some fire out to get to you.''

Ladder 15 had finally found the fire after an arduous climb to the 78th floor, according to the tape. They were in the B stairwell. On the other side of the fire were hundreds of people, blocked from fleeing by smoke and flame on the stairs. Chief Palmer was facing similar fires in the A stairwell, across the floor.

''We're gonna knock down some fire here in the B Stair,'' Lieutenant Leavey is heard telling one of his firefighters. ''We'll meet up with you. You get over to the A Stair and help out Chief Palmer.''

If those fires were burning at 1500-1800°F, the people on that floor would have been dead.

I'm no conspiracy theory nutcase, but I'm also not stupid, the "official" explanations of collapse just don't match reality.

Are you ready black people?
Are you ready to kill if necessary?
Are you ready to smash white things,
to burn buildings,
Are you ready?

Hell yeah! oh, wait, I'm white. nevermind. guess I got sorta caught up in that one.

Dang video ends before she's finished...

Here's the lyrics in their entirety:
SPOKEN:
I remember when I was a very little girl, our house caught on fire.
I'll never forget the look on my father's face as he gathered me up
in his arms and raced through the burning building out to the pavement.
I stood there shivering in my pajamas and watched the whole world go up in flames.
And when it was all over I said to myself, "Is that all there is to a fire"

SUNG:
Is that all there is, is that all there is
If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing
Let's break out the booze and have a ball
If that's all there is

SPOKEN:
And when I was 12 years old, my father took me to a circus, the greatest show on earth.
There were clowns and elephants and dancing bears.
And a beautiful lady in pink tights flew high above our heads.
And so I sat there watching the marvelous spectacle.
I had the feeling that something was missing.
I don't know what, but when it was over,
I said to myself, "is that all there is to a circus?

SUNG:
Is that all there is, is that all there is
If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing
Let's break out the booze and have a ball
If that's all there is

SPOKEN:
Then I fell in love, head over heels in love, with the most wonderful boy in the world.
We would take long walks by the river or just sit for hours gazing into each other's eyes.
We were so very much in love.
Then one day he went away and I thought I'd die, but I didn't,
and when I didn't I said to myself, "is that all there is to love?"

SUNG:
Is that all there is, is that all there is
If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing

SPOKEN:
I know what you must be saying to yourselves,
if that's the way she feels about it why doesn't she just end it all?
Oh, no, not me. I'm in no hurry for that final disappointment,
for I know just as well as I'm standing here talking to you,
when that final moment comes and I'm breathing my lst breath, I'll be saying to myself

SUNG:
Is that all there is, is that all there is
If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing
Let's break out the booze and have a ball
If that's all there is

Yeah, it's been done to death, but me an' GunnyX are gonna do it differently this time. If our patience holds out.

>> ^srd:
Hang on. I thought NYC officials already stated publically that WTC7 was intentionally pulled down when it was clear that it couldn't be saved with a reasonable amount of work?


Trouble is, you couldn't set that all up in four hours, in a burning building. It'd have to be ready befroe the surprise attack.

Oh, explosive energy creates hot dust clouds rising like a volcanic eruption. I'm glad they take the time to verse us morons in physics. I was unaware the only possible way a dust cloud could arise from a fallen burning building was from explosives. That makes perfect sense.

Not.


Sorry, chogster, but I must wield the downvote. After six years, I find myself utterly unable to tolerate/entertain videos proliferating this idiocy any longer.

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Just a point further about real, planned implosions. If you watch any of the following, for example:
http://www.videosift.com/video/Landmark-Implosion-Giant-Demolition-37-secs
http://www.videosift.com/video/intel-building-implosion-Austin-Texas
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Implosion-of-a-Sheraton-Hotel
http://www.videosift.com/video/Building-Implosion-I-think-they-were-a-little-too-close
http://www.videosift.com/video/Las-Vegas-Stardust-Hotel-and-Casino-Implosion
http://www.videosift.com/video/Adams-Mark-Hotel-Implosion-from-really-close
it's very obvous that for any intentional explosive-driven implosion there is a series of extremely loud bangs from each set of explosives being detonated sequentially. You know, I even feel stupid even arguing the point because it's such a ridiculous argument to begin with... Ahh, forget it! I'm outta here. I wash my hands of this but good.

Allegations:
* It's illegal to preach any non-Islam religion in Saudi Arabia, on pain of death.
* Torture outsourcing
* Public executions by stoning and beheading
* Alcohol prohibition
* Saudi Arabia stopped the rescue of 15 women in a burning building because they weren't wearing proper veils to go outside. They burned to death.
* Sharia law was created by men to subjugate women.

If I were a citizen of Saudi Arabia I would help overthrow that monarchy.

FYI, the reason you don't use elevators in a fire is because of the chimney effect, plus during a fire, too many asshats would stand there waiting for an elevator to come, and if one did, they would all pile in as if their lives depended on it.. Then you would be in one stuck elevator in the middle of a burning building.

haha totally laughable. At the same time people are calling people idiot-conspiracy theorists, they are talking out of the other side of their mouth saying, "I do remember on 9/11 while watching the news, there was mention that one of those smaller buildings was purposely demolished."

Yeah, they went into a burning building and set up for a demo in a few hours. Ok.

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KaiEr, what are you talking about?

"I can show you THOUSANDS of buildings, burned and destroyed, in which they didn't land all over a five mile radius. What else would you expect?"

Ok, show me THOUSANDS of burned and destroyed buildings that fell or were damaged, other than WWII type bombings, and other than controlled demolition where planning and explosives were used.

As to the 'we can possibly ever know what a plane would do' retarded argument. http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=179 (a B-25 flew into the Empire State Building in 1945)
"Investigation showed that the structural integrity of the Empire State Building was not compromised by this accident" ... "engulfed an an explosion of flaming, high-octane fuel. The burning gasoline traveled through hallways, stairwells, and elevator shafts, reaching as far as four floors below the point of impact as the building shook." ... "One of the bomber's engines completely penetrated the Empire State Building, and fell from the opposite side. The other engine flew into an elevator shaft and severed the cable of an elevator car" ... "impact left a hole in the north face of the Empire State Building eighteen feet wide by twenty feet high."

So sure, smaller plane, but only by half and maybe four times as much fuel.

How about actual physics simulations of the crash? Is that to conspiracy for you? http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/09/020911072432.htm "At that speed, the plane itself is like a sausage skin," Sozen said. "It doesn't have much strength and virtually crumbles on impact."

Now they refuse to do that simulation for the WTC, and only simulated concrete columns, but again, have you seen the core of the WTC? It is no steel skin, or under-designed building. No amount of fuel could have damaged the core, which phonecalls from inside the WTC would imply the fires were not that hot.

Anyways, instead of THOUSANDS of buildings, just show me one steel building that was brought down by a fire buring inside. In just hours. Just one building.