>> ^dag:

@persephone and I will be at the Crowne Plaza. Is that far?


@dag, Not really, it's either about a 15minute leisurely walk, or a quick tram ride up the street.

@kymbos, I do like the idea of roof top places or those with gardens, and Madam Brussels is ridiculously close to Meyer's Place... it's just that
a) The weather is not looking to be nice and sunny, so rooftops might be a bummer
&
b) Being down at street level I think makes it easier to spot the fellow sifters.

Now, being that @dag and @persephone will be down Southbank way, we could make the meeting point be closer to that area, but I think that runs the risk of the whole thing remaining around the Crown complex, which doesn't really show off Melbourne that well.

What we need is a way of people knowing our movements as the Sift Up progresses. I'll say it here and at the top of the post, if anyone wants my mobile number so they can track us down on the night, then I can do that.

Or, I guess... being that dag tweets, people could follow that? I've never used Twitter in my life, so I can't speak for how well that would work.

Would that make more sense though?

I hate that I can't get there till later, but I want to suggest consideration of an outdoor venue if you're starting at 4pm. If it's a nice day, there are some pretty cool rooftop venues around Melbourne that do it well. For example:

http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/71/1471397/restaurant/CBD/Madame-Brussels-Melbourne

http://www.thecarlton.com.au/

Meyers Place is a great bar, but has no view and might be more an evening kinda thing...

Treating a fatty liver is important! First, if your doctor prescribes a medicine, most of the time it's harmful to your liver. Be a self advocate and discuss with him if the treatment is really important. Maybe taking steroids to stave off an annoying cough isn't as important as you'd like it to be.

Second, if you're a drinker, not only drink lots of water but also make sure you're taking in buttloads of potassium. If you're taking potassium supplements, please note they're probably potassium gluconate, and although the bottle says 550mg, it's really only 90mg of potassium (or 3% of your daily allowance). Don't be afraid to take more than one or two, and honestly coconut water and bananas have a high count of potassium so stock the fuck up.

Last, eat healthier. Broccoli, cabbage (or brussel sprouts) and garlic are great for fatty livers. Cut out sugar from your diet if possible. Instead of a soda, order unsweetened tea (black tea is just about as healthy as green tea!).

(LYRICS)

(Chorus opening)

There I was havin’ a good hard shit for myself
After the parsnips,peas,cauliflower the lump o leek and de brussels sprout
All inside in me,dyin’ ta get out it was and shur what could i do i had to go
And i’m readin de oul sunday paper,as you do you never know what you might see like and I turn the page and theres this big fuckoff ad for Eminem live in the point depot, and who comes in de door only my little brother Matthew(matcho)
Runs in the the door sees the ad runs downstairs to mammy “Eh mammy mammy Eminems comin to de point depot,mammy mammy Eminem live at the point depot can i go mammy can i please please mammy can i go?” Bastard!
Mammy tells me to go an get tickets I go and get tickets, I’m standin’ outside HMV for 17 an a half fuckin’ hours,with nothin but a flask of turnip soup I had last sundaay and a fuckin’ sleepin bag...Frozen to my balls I was and muppets all round me screamin’ an roarin’ an shoutin’ ‘cleanin out dere closet,cleanin out dere closet’ langers on a half a bottle of fuckin’ smirnoff ice, but shur what can you do wit em?, dere muppets de whole lot of em’
Nonetheless dey move,I move, we all move, I finally get up to de counter
“Eh 2 tickets for Eminem” “Thats 50 euro per ticket and 4.50 bookin’ fee”
“Whats the bookin' fee for?? I booked nothin standin here for 17 1/2 fuckin hours, no credit card, no nothin. Fuckin MCD robbin bastards,robbin’ bastards de whole lot of em but I’ll tell you 1 thing, ye met yer match lads Ha Ha!

(Chorus)

Bus Eireann,deres another shower o right muppets altogether 20 euro a piece for myself an matthew....8 1/2 hours and I standin the whole fuckin way from Limerick to Dublin! When does it ever take 8 1/2 hours to go from Limerick to Dub..I’d fuckin’ swim to New York quicker! And It a broken down heap o shit an all it was and blated punctures and bumps,every bump was like a fuckin crater of a moon it was,
Nonetheless we finally get there had to queue outside de point depot for another 2 1/2 hours, half way through the queue some muppet feels my balls “Have you got a camera?” he says....Have I got a camera,I can’t stand the sight of the peroxide fuckers head an he’s askin me have I a camera?! I can’t take a shit,make a hang sangwich an de fuckers lookin’ back at me. I’m only up here for matcho you know!!
Jesus I get in I hadda queue for a burger ('cos Matthew wanted a burger) I hadda queue for a pint,I hadda queue for a piss! Everything,you can’t even make a phone call and some muppets on the line “Eh your call is important to us,please stay on the li….Fuck you ya bastard! Fuckin Eircom robbin bastards! Robbin bastards de whole lot of em,robbin de country blind, fuckin’ government don’t have a clue whats goin’ on in this country!
Nonetheless we’re pushin an we’re squeezin an shovin tryin to make it up to de front for Matcho (Hes only small hes only up to my arse,hes only six, like)...and of course I’m fartin de whole way up coz I couldn’t go to the toilet coz I couldn’t get inta de queue!! And his mouth was open an all and he’s dere “Ah Stan are we near the front yit Stan, Eh stan Are we near the front I can’t breathe stan eh... “We’re nearly dere now hold onto yourself boy!
We finally get there Hes all excited hes on my shoulders,I’m all excited coz hes all excited We came all dis way for you,just for you…..and you send out some black fella…..a big fat black fella an the back of his trousers down his arse. And him roarin into the microphone ‘Whos ur nigger,whos ur nigger ur niggers in da house, Jenny's on the block..” Well I’ll tell u one thing Jenny Suck my fuckin’ cock!!! We didn’t come all this way to see u or no one like u! Jez who are you? Nobody gives a shit about or no one else! We came here to see 1 man 1 man only, do me a favor will u?
GET OFF DA FUCKIN STAGE!!!!!!!

(Chorus)

Out you finally saunter with your vest wrapped round you good an tight,an oul hangy baggy pants on you and nonetheless an oul pair o nike runners on you
an you screamin into the microphone! how u were fucked in the arse when you were 5, Thats not my fuckin problem you know! We’ve all got issues we’ve all got problems,I’ve a wife that hates me,Ive a child that I love but shur what can we do about em? We don’t go rantin an ravin to the public about how fuckin brilliant we are, how our lives are all fucked up an I want to put my wife in a bodybag an drive her over the edge of a cliff. Well I’ll put you in my bodybag ya bastard! I’ll drive you over the edge of a bridge or a cliff or a mountain or somethin! Don’t go rantin an ravin with ur la de da de da bout your hoosit an wtsit in the world!! I have issues here in the world and I’ll tell u 1 ting!If I’m goin down I’m takin’ you with me coz ur nothin but an ape! And I’ll tell u somethin else,I’ll rip ur liver out thru yer arse! BASTARD!!!!

(Epilogue)

"Dear stan, you sad, sad little man....why do you think I should give a shit about you or your little brother Matthew, it's fuckin' apes like you that are making me a fortune, I'm worth a FORTUNE....I release an album, you buy the album, I release a single & you buy every single song off it, I mean why do you buy it twice...why why?? You queue for hours you buy tickets, I can't even get a passport leave my own country & the likes of you are still out there buying all my shit that I pump out...so what if I'm moanin' and groanin'?....I'm worth a fortune, I couldn't care less about you, anyone, no-one...I LOVE it...I'm worth so much money, it's SICK...I'm sick to my teeth with money...I'm loaded, I am loaded....I'm fuckin' LOOOOOOOAAAAAADDDEDDDDD!!!!"

(Chorus)

I'm an American ex-pat living in Belgium and while headscarves are pretty common, I'm not sure that I've ever seen a burqa with the face-veil (though it may be more common in Brussels which is almost 25% Muslim).

Police here do NOT like not knowing who you are. When police ask, you're required to show them your ID with a computer chip in it, which you have to have on you at all times. So this bill is partly because Europeans always want to know about you (when you move somewhere, you always have to register with the local townhall for example) and they want to see someone's face. But it is also because they're unhappy with the growing Muslim community. The majority of Middle Eastern immigrants don't have an interest in integrating into Belgium society.

Also, France just passed a burqa ban in June making them the first European country to do so. The bill is still in limbo here in Belgium because of this summer's election.

Belgium instituted a temporary worker program in the 60's that brought over lots of Turks to help with the growing economy because Belgium's population was still hurting from World War II. Both the Turks and the Belgians wanted it to be temporary (the Turks wanted to make lots of money then return home and the Belgians wanted the economic help and then to for the workers to leave), but it didn't quite go as planned. Anyway, that's a little bit of where this came from...

hey ho..get well soon enoch, ride the wave and come out the other side a better man for it-make with the homemade chicken soup loaded with goodness for the off-side of the crud-garlic, celery, onion, chicken, salt und pepper, mmmmmmm, and Brussels sprouts maybe?? we gonna blast ya outta the zone for some bling, homes....

In reply to this comment by Playinwithfire:
Hey, Steve(Enoch) wanted me to tell you thanks for poppin all those vids in his que. He cant respond because hes got a wicked virus in his comp and cant type a thing. lol My job to show ya some love bud : )

That's your opinion coming from a pro capitalistic viewpoint, almost all these industries themselves pressed for government intervention and consequentially benefited massively from protectionist policies (see big 3 auto industry case vs Japan auto industry in the 70s oil crisis), the government representatives benefit because the states where these firms are based would vote with their jobs and lively hood. So on a economic standpoint you can argue its wrong, but not from a social one, an economist would allow GM to fail but we live in a society that needs to support its workers.

Such collusion is not the fault of the government, because they way you phrase it you make it sound like its a government initiative, when in reality its the industries themselves that consistently press for protectionist policies to distort the market for their own benefits and profit. The EU farming fiasco right now taking place in France is a clear example, the agricultural sector is pressing for a return to a quota system to allow prices to rise artificially, Brussels has stated it will take no such action as right now agro prices are completely out of sync with world prices and this only benefits the minority agricultural sector.

Am sorry but your opinions fail to ever encompass reality of the situation. Rather you simply have a pro-right beef with what you call government growth, because its a buzz word of the republican right wing. You rail against taxes and government spending without ever thinking that government spending in the 40s and 50s has built up the very infrastructure right that connects America with roads and telecom systems, government subsidies in cases like Canada have allowed the sprouting of a telecom network in its early years because no profit orientated firm would ever dream to lay down telecom networks because its a cost loss.

Its just like when I watch C-SPAN and see republicans complain about stimulus and subsidy packages when i know full well their state presses for the same stimulus and subsidy packages year on year to support their state industries.

Is there hope? Yes? Does it take years? yes Smoot hawley put into effect one of the largest protectionist drives in the world post great depression it has taken 80yrs for GATT, WTO and other international incentives to return to a trade freedom that comes somewhere close to pre-1930 levels. The system of protectionism and industry subsidization takes years to unravel because industries influence government policy more then government policy influences industries.

>> ^Laekroth:
It's Flamish (Belgian-dutch). The video is probably taken near the airport of Brussels (Zaventem). When landing in an airplane there, from inside it looks like it's going to hit the houses

That's exactly what I was thinking...

It's Flamish (Belgian-dutch). The video is probably taken near the airport of Brussels (Zaventem). When landing in an airplane there, from inside it looks like it's going to hit the houses

I'm always wondering what's more depressing: how easy those folks in Brussels can be influenced by lobbyists or just how incompetent the "movers and shakers" really are. There are videos online of "La Quadrature du net"-activists talking to them and they really have no idea of the consequences of their decisions.

Never thought the people at Memri had such a a good sense of humour (any Arab-speaking videosifters out there capable of checking their translations?). But I do think the Leader is right: I have good relations with France, Italy, the EU, and Brussels too, but do draw the line at Sweden. However, Broxell as the capital of both the Israeli’s and the North Pole could work out well.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'nemo 33, belgium, brussels, pool, lots and lots of water, deep' to 'nemo 33, belgium, brussels, pool, water, scuba, diving, hot girl, deep' - edited by jwray

>> ^legacy0100:
Native dutch dances are quite odd.

"muscles from brussels"
Where exactly do you think Brussels is?

Here is a list of things that can also power the Texas Instruments micro controller: Aardvarks, ants, apples, Avril Lavine, Breadfruit, baguettes, Brussel sprouts, Bark, Batteries, Coneys, Carpet, Cats, Crumbs, Crap, Dams (beaver or man-made), Droids, Energy, Flies, Fruit (any kind), Fire, F-words, Fusion reactors, Grenades, Gum, Guilt imposed on you by your ex, Hedgehogs, hemroids, hockey players, Ion engines, Jack in the box food, kinetic energy, killer bees, linen, locomotives, morose code, melons, Montgomery Burns, name calling, nebula, noogies, and anything you can find in a grocery store or McDonald's.

yeah CP....we still have all the real power......we've simply been emasculated to the point of fear and complacency while being groomed for obedience, waste, greed, and excess......like little carbon copies of our keepers-there are 2 options at this point-
continue on a path to worldwide servitude and control...or, drag the motherfuckers into streets from Beijing to Washington, Bern to Brussels, and behead the beasts and their offspring......this is a Dynasty we are at war with, not some patsy governments.....