Go ahead and make that wish when you're blowing out the candles on your birthday cake.

Do you mean no, you believe by force of law if your business is making cakes, you must print any and all messages(barring illegal hate speech) requested by customers?

A Muslim baker should be required by law to produce a cake depicting the prophet?

Pro-Choice bakers should be required by law to produce cakes with graphic imagery of aborted fetuses?

Jewish bakers shouldn't be allowed to refuse to make a birthday cake for Hitler's birthday?

I get that right to refuse to do certain kinds of business can be touchy, but IMO it's even more dangerous to start demanding business owners lose the freedom to decline business that although legal goes against their own values.

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"The (birthday) cake is a lie."

@Zawash -- all true. And yet, just because Calvin and Hobbes and Bill Watterson are/were awesome, it doesn't make IP and copyright rules any more sensible.

My opinion: those respectful and well-done parodies and homages (say, Pants are Overrated's Hobbes and Bacon) are fair use. The person/people that drew Calvin peeing on things? Fair use also. There is a big difference between "tasteless" and "should be illegal".

Selling car decals with those images is different, because then you're treading all over the "not for profit" element of fair use. However, tracking down tons of small-scale infringers on that, or even worse, average people who simply buy the decals/shirts/whatever and likely don't know or care to know about IP and copyright laws is ... a losing battle at best, and punitive towards *fans* of the IP at worst.

There are many many examples of going to idiotic (IMO) lengths to protect IP. Disney suing local bakeries for drawing some character in icing on top of a kids birthday cake. Metallica suing Napster, University internet hosts, and even individual downloaders of their music. Teachers being sued for playing a clip of a TV show, movie, or song as part of their lessons. Etc. etc.

At some level, copyright is a good thing. Or at least a necessary evil. But the litigious zeal with which IP and copyright are "protected" these days seems like we've lost sight of the "art before commerce" element that is a huge part of why Calvin and Hobbes was so awesome. And why IP is something worth protecting (within sensible limits).

Happy Birthdfay darkrowan.

And Happy Halloween.

I bet you've had some interesting birthday cakes.

Enjoy!

I think you should have actually read about what happened before you commented.

This is what the owner said:

""If gays come in and want to order birthday cakes or any cakes for any occasion, graduations, or whatever, I have no prejudice against that whatsoever," Phillips told CBS. "It's just the wedding cake, not the people, not their lifestyle."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/cake-bakery-blasted-refusal-gay-couple-wedding-cake-article-1.1125737#ixzz22M2FLkbs

So yes, my argument does have merit. They also came in an announced that they were gay and told him what the cake was for:

"My first comment was, 'We're getting married"

I'm sure the reason for this was that they already knew they were going to get turned down:

"This is not the first time Phillips has refused to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple. He insists, however, that his stance is not anti-gay."

The gay community in that town already knew about it, and sent someone in to get refused so they could create a story for the media with the hype and drama that has surrounded it, and generate sympathy for their cause.



>> ^JiggaJonson:

@UsesProzac You'll never get through to someone who honestly believes "it's not that he refused to make them a cake because they were gay, he refused to make a gay wedding cake," has any merit as an argument.
To really get somewhere in an argument with someone like this, you need to re-frame the problem into a more basic philosophical question after agree'd upon facts have been established.
Why do he refused service? <<< a rel="nofollow" good place to start apparently. @shinyblurry seems to think it's because of the event that the cake was being used for, so let's continue on that basis.
The next question would be: Does the baker have the right to demand to know what events his cakes are being used for? I mean, if I had some kind of cake-fetish should I be required to disclose it to the baker "Yes, I'm totally gonna stick this cake up my own ass."
^this seems like a more appropriate place for the two of you to continue your discussion in some constructive way.

I hope this guy finally figured out birthday cake gives him kidney stones.

Perhaps my analogy led you astray, you don't get something out of nothing.

In fusion, a small amount of matter is converted directly into energy. It's a scientific theory that matter is energy, and in a small amount of matter there is a very large amount of energy.

For example, the sun is a nuclear fusion reactor. If it was burning chemically rather than fusing, it would have probably burnt out within a few thousand years (i've not bothered to do any maths on that). As it's fusing, it's probably got another 5 billion in it with 5 billion candles already on its birthday cake now.

If you burn a piece of wood, you get a certain amount of energy from it. If you converted a piece of wood directly from matter into energy, you'd get a rediculous amount of energy. Ice cube to a lake kind of proportions.

If you want to learn about fusion (it is interesting) then i suggest starting at the wikipedia page on it. It will explain that when you fuse two atoms together, you end up with something with less mass than its component parts, the mass lost is converted to energy (e=mc^2).

Read the second half of this about burning fuel. You get a feel for the numbers.
http://www.1728.com/einstein.htm

>> ^Yogi:

I read somewhere that the state took them away and put them in foster care. I'm not exactly sure how I feel about that sort of thing because it's kind of like punishing thought crimes. There's arguments back and forth for it, I'm not gonna say it's wrong but I'm not believing that the state having that kind of power is necessarily something to cheer.


The children were taken away over concerns of domestic violence. Not surprisingly, there are many things mess up in that household.

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