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Drunk Camper Handles Shotgun, Outcome Predictable

Charlie Sheen's Video Message to President Obama

spoco2 says...

And this was really the way you think a government would do it? First rig up buildings with explosives in secret without anyone knowing, then somehow get people to agree to be suicide pilots of planes, then have those planes be passenger planes so that they are not just killing the people in the buildings but those in the planes, and then have them be piloted into the buildings, and then demolish the buildings with explosives.


Really?


You really think they would do this? I know the governments do some seriously horrible shit, and that the attack on Irag was not driven by trying to get anyone remotely connected to 9/11... but you really think that the US government would create something this convoluted when there are plenty of simpler ways to create a reason to attack another country and make your populous afraid of an unseen bogeyman.

The problem with conspiracy theorists is that even blatant facts that kill their suppositions are treated as merely 'bogus information from the man' and discounted, whereas utter drivel masquerading as science that agrees with them is lovingly circulated ad nauseum.


>> ^NobleOne:
^ Spoco2: why is it so unbelievable really? Has there never been government conspiracies or secrets? In your context of your argument the Government never killed Kennedy even after coming up with the idea of backing money to silver, pulling out of Vietnam, or dis-banding the CIA... Though i am sure it was one shooter with one bullet that went all nimbly bimbly bouncing around the car and pushing Kennedy back and to the left. That was how long ago and we still don't know all the facts on it.... I am sure as shit not that naive to think it was one guy from a 3rd floor book depository with a bolt action rifle... or the coincidences that Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, and Robert Kennedy were all killed within the same time frame... Or how about over throwing the Shah in Iran or the contras in Nicaragua.... Man the list is overwhelming.... Trillions of dollars in Oil will make people do i am sure just about anything....

Charlie Sheen's Video Message to President Obama

NobleOne says...

^ Spoco2: why is it so unbelievable really? Has there never been government conspiracies or secrets? In your context of your argument the Government never killed Kennedy even after coming up with the idea of backing money to silver, pulling out of Vietnam, or dis-banding the CIA... Though i am sure it was one shooter with one bullet that went all nimbly bimbly bouncing around the car and pushing Kennedy back and to the left. That was how long ago and we still don't know all the facts on it.... I am sure as shit not that naive to think it was one guy from a 3rd floor book depository with a bolt action rifle... or the coincidences that Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, and Robert Kennedy were all killed within the same time frame... Or how about over throwing the Shah in Iran or the contras in Nicaragua.... Man the list is overwhelming.... Trillions of dollars in Oil will make people do i am sure just about anything....

The Men Who Killed Kennedy (Part 1)

F1: Massa knocked out by spring, darts into wall at 200+km/h

F1: Massa knocked out by spring, darts into wall at 200+km/h

JFK - Back and to the left

videosiftbannedme says...

Me personally? It was a triangulated crossfire. You had one shooter in the upper window of the schoolbook depository, one shooter on the grassy knoll, but the killing shot came from behind, on a low flat trajectory from a second or third floor window of the schoolbook depository, or adjacent building.

The "back and to the left" is a result of the bullet entering the right side of the skull from behind, but exiting with a great amount of force (as rifle rounds do) from the right front of the head, the resulting exit blast throwing the head back and to the left. Had the shot came from the front, it would have penetrated his skull, exploding from the rear, throwing his head forward, instead of back.

But that's just my opinion.

JFK - Back and to the left

xxovercastxx says...

>> ^ponceleon:
there was an excellent documentary on the History channel which debunked a LOT of what was said in the movie.


I believe that documentary is sifted somewhere, or at least a part of it. Pretty sure this is where I first saw it. They present some solid evidence for quite a few things which were contrary to my beliefs previously, but I wasn't satisfied with their explanation for how a shot from the rear could throw the president "back and to the left". Basically they argue that the direction a body falls gives no indication of the direction it was struck from. If Kennedy had simply slumped down into the seat after the headshot, I might accept this, but that's not what I see. I see him being thrown back with some force.

I've been fascinated, and disgusted, by the assassination for a long time now. It's one of those things that feels personally insulting to me, like somebody mugging my grandma. It's a shame that we'll never really know what happened that day. Too many relevant people have died; too much evidence has been destroyed or tainted.

JFK - Back and to the left

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