Um…did you have a mini stroke, your first sentence is gibberish, not unusual from you but concerning.

The same bachelors degree can be gotten from Phoenix University online, so maybe it wasn’t easy for you, but it’s not an advanced or difficult BS degree to earn.
It’s not even circuitry design, just basic repair and manufacture skills. You don’t really need to know how circuits work, only how to diagnose and replace them when they fail. Essentially how to read a multi meter, manual, and how to solder. You’re a service tech, my brother had more advanced electronic skills when he was 12 and rebuilt/upgraded his apple 2 computer at home. Don’t pretend you have some advanced electronics degree, you have the bare minimum degree to be a professional service tech. 🤦‍♂️

Jethro wouldn’t have taken as electives, much less aced advanced molecular biology, or advanced placement B/C calculus and statistics. Jethro couldn’t tell the difference between your, you’re, and yore, or there, their, and they’re…that’s definitely more your level and speed friendo. 😂

Among manimals?!? Rand doesn’t even know the word animal and mammal are separate words?

Why the fuck doesn’t the chairman censure Rand for lying and ignoring her orders to stop interrupting answers and speaking after his time was expired? He should have been fined after his second interruption, removed and fined after the third, and held by the sergeant at arms for at least 24 hours or until he apologizes to the chair and fellow members, whichever is longer, after the fourth and fifth.

How did he ever pass medical school? It seems an impossibility considering his ignorance of basic medicine and lack of civility and decorum. Somebody investigate this, I bet he bought a medical license, he couldn’t earn one. Records show he never completed a bachelor degree before starting medical school, despite claiming he did, and that during the rigorous and overwhelming schedule of medical school he was working full time on his daddies campaign, traveling nationwide with his father throughout the campaign. He is definitely not smart enough to have passed medical school in his spare time, how did he get his degree? Not through merit, that’s a certainty.

I understand where you're coming from, but I stand by my previous posts.

Full disclosure, I never got professionally employed as a programmer / coder / software engineer. However, my Bachelors Degree was in CS, and I have many friends working in the field.

In the show Silicon Valley, Richard Hendriks is working for a large corporate entity but has an idea / personal project that he ends up spinning into a new company. He is trained as a software engineer (CS), NOT with any business or management background (MIS), yet he becomes sort of the de-facto boss / CEO (at least early in the show). He hires a small team to help him develop his product.

Given that scenario, I think the show portrays things very accurately or at least completely plausibly. He's a coder, not a manager. Programmers may understand the importance of formatting and style standards, but at least tend to not have the correct personality type to be comfortable with formally dictating those standards to a team (an activity which would generally be more in line with an MIS background).

Also, his company is small -- just a few other programmers. They are all specializing on different components of the product. So they generally aren't working on each other's code. Standards for function arguments / helper functions / etc. would have to be agreed upon to get their individual components to interact, but that is a separate issue from tabs vs spaces. It would be wise to set a style and naming convention standard and have everyone conform to it, I agree completely. But Richard isn't built for the manager / CEO position, so he either fails to recognize that or doesn't feel comfortable dictating standards to his team.

One more thing to consider is that he (Richard) essentially is the product. He's the keystone piece, the central figure. He's John Carmack, Linus Torvalds, or Steve Wozniak. Even in a very large team / corporate environment, I'd wager that more often than not the style standards that end up getting set tend to fall in line with whatever those key guys want them to be. Don't touch an id Software graphics engine without conforming to Carmack's way, or the Linux kernel without conforming to Torvald's standards. Especially if they are building something new from scratch -- which is again true in the Silicon Valley show scenario.

The show isn't a documentary on how to properly run a startup company in the real Silicon Valley, but it is generally accurate enough that it has a lot of nuances that people with a programming background can pick up on and be entertained by (even people that don't actually work professionally in the field like me). And more important, the general feel of the show can be entertaining even for people that know absolutely nothing about programming.

@bareboards2 Ma'am, I apologize both for the factually untrue statement, which I made without keeping with proper English debate/conversation etiquette, and also for assuming a gender for you title without proper evaluation.

To make clear my position, as I believe many, if not all of you here (@PlayhousePals @newtboy @Januari @bareboards2) mistake my position and/or personal political siding...

Firstly, I DO NOT like Trump, his policies, his manner, his monomaniacal bent towards the topics he figures are worth his time to address, not much of anything, actually.

Secondly, yes, I am conservative, and for a young male in British society, this leaves me at rather an odd way with those of an opposing political bent, particularly those of the Liberal/Progressive variety(Liberal less so, as it is an off-take of Libertarianism). I believe that effectually bending society over backwards to meet the stresses of a brave new world is a brash and undeveloped concept. I believe the perfect society is a logical one, where all that are able are held to an advantageously high level of acumen, education, etiquette, state of public dress, etc. I do not believe in the idea of "Utopia", as basic human psychology(which I have the equivalent of the american bachelors degree in) denies the facet of a cohesive human culture/society.

Thirdly, I arrive in support of Trump not out of a liking for him or his policy, but an awareness of what the enaction of his policies would bring. This awareness is spawned by the awareness of the state of the American Political Establishment, as is governed by people with power beyond reckoning, the face of which happens to be Hillary Clinton. Trump's policies, if allowed to be implemented, would cause such as rift in the political establishment/climate, as well as the hearts and minds of the American people, as to bring about change.

So, in effect, I support Trump for the very reason many of you don't, the Chaos that would almost inevitably ensue. A chaos that would likely go unnoticed, as such shifts occur without common knowledge...

Or... You could vote for a woman who has on more occasions than is accountable, broken Federal Law, covered up her husband's brutalization of women, and God knows what else, and only manages to escape prison because she is one of the sharpest tools the totalitarian American political establishment has...

I don't know about the USA, but in the UK you don't necessarily need any degree at all. You just need a PGCE qualification (a fairly straightforward qualification on basic teaching including practical experience) and a "good understanding" of the subject you want to teach, although that will often be a Bachelors degree.

Define "smart". To obtain a master's degree or any bachelor degree requires some nominal amount of discipline and intelligence.>> ^Yogi:

Being really educated doesn't mean you're smart. That's the closest I'll come to agreeing with Rush Limbaugh...now please roll your fat ass off into the sunset.

Sheeeeeeeeeit.

>> ^Ornthoron:

So this is the roast? Sorry I'm late, but it doesn't seem like I missed much. @<a rel="nofollow" href="http://wtf.videosift.com/member/thinker247" title="member since September 15th, 2007" class="profilelink">thinker247 tried to give us some material with that interview, but it seems he botched it thoroughly since nobody uses it. And MrFish didn't exactly help out with his uninspired answers. The only funny comment I've seen here was @<a rel="nofollow" href="http://troll.videosift.com" title="member since July 4th, 2007" class="profilelink"><strong style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">blankfist's (You have no idea how much it pains me to admit that), and he had to go back as far as a siftquisition almost 3 years back to find worthwhile material.
But I'm not one to shirk from responsibility, so I'll try to wring some lemming juice out of this brothel floor cleaning rag of an interview:
"4. What is your profession?
I’m a non-traditional student. Non-traditional means older (I put Van Wilder to shame). I will graduate with a bachelor’s degree in journalism from the University of Nebraska-Lincoln at the end of the year. I plan to write good stuff somewhere, although I may go into public relations first.
I’m also a bartender, although I was laid off last month. I’ve worked in a dance club and a nice hotel.
I used to be a cook."
I've seen MrFish's type at my university. There are basically two types who pursue bachelor degrees after they've turned 30. One type is the eternal slacker, who gets too distracted by alcohol, drugs or video games to pass any courses, and the other type is the men and women with a mid-life crisis. This latter group typically choose some useless subject that "expands their horizon", like art history or philosophy.
I'm torn as to what group MrFish might belong to. His history of being laid off from low-tier jobs suggests the former, but journalism is a field that reeks of pretentiousness, so I think I have to go with the latter category. I know of no other people that overvalue there own importance as much as journalists. You really think you can do a difference in the world from Nebraska? With merely a bachelor degree? You could at least have chosen something useful for the children of tomorrow, like molecular biology or condensed matter physics. But of course, achieving even a bachelor degree in those subjects requires both hard work and intelligence.
You'll likely now try to prove you have both these qualities by using unnecessary long time to write a long and poignant retort to all the half-insults in this roast. This, you tell yourself, will show everyone how good you are with words and why you were destined from the start to become a Daily Nebraskan contributor. What you don't realize is that nobody else really cares, and that what you will come to consider the epitome of your oevre will likely only be read by yourself.

So this is the roast? Sorry I'm late, but it doesn't seem like I missed much. @thinker247 tried to give us some material with that interview, but it seems he botched it thoroughly since nobody uses it. And MrFish didn't exactly help out with his uninspired answers. The only funny comment I've seen here was @blankfist's (You have no idea how much it pains me to admit that), and he had to go back as far as a siftquisition almost 3 years back to find worthwhile material.

But I'm not one to shirk from responsibility, so I'll try to wring some lemming juice out of this brothel floor cleaning rag of an interview:

"4. What is your profession?
I’m a non-traditional student. Non-traditional means older (I put Van Wilder to shame). I will graduate with a bachelor’s degree in journalism from the University of Nebraska-Lincoln at the end of the year. I plan to write good stuff somewhere, although I may go into public relations first.
I’m also a bartender, although I was laid off last month. I’ve worked in a dance club and a nice hotel.
I used to be a cook."

I've seen MrFish's type at my university. There are basically two types who pursue bachelor degrees after they've turned 30. One type is the eternal slacker, who gets too distracted by alcohol, drugs or video games to pass any courses, and the other type is the men and women with a mid-life crisis. This latter group typically choose some useless subject that "expands their horizon", like art history or philosophy.

I'm torn as to what group MrFish might belong to. His history of being laid off from low-tier jobs suggests the former, but journalism is a field that reeks of pretentiousness, so I think I have to go with the latter category. I know of no other people that overvalue there own importance as much as journalists. You really think you can do a difference in the world from Nebraska? With merely a bachelor degree? You could at least have chosen something useful for the children of tomorrow, like molecular biology or condensed matter physics. But of course, achieving even a bachelor degree in those subjects requires both hard work and intelligence.

You'll likely now try to prove you have both these qualities by using unnecessary long time to write a long and poignant retort to all the half-insults in this roast. This, you tell yourself, will show everyone how good you are with words and why you were destined from the start to become a Daily Nebraskan contributor. What you don't realize is that nobody else really cares, and that what you will come to consider the epitome of your oevre will likely only be read by yourself.

it's the same in texas, 9 weeks at the end of your senior year. in my experience, this class is usually taught by a coach which means you can leave and go chain smoke in your car and fight with your boyfriend until next period.

it also isn't a required course for a bachelors degree in most things.the majority of people don't have even an elementary education in economics. so is it funny for those of us who picked up on the word to laugh at those who didn't.. eh, maybe? but it's not really saying anything specific about the left.. maybe it's saying something specific about the knowledge base of americans in general?

>> ^GenjiKilpatrick:

In Georgia they don't teach you Economics until the last year of high school.
And even then [since it's paired with Politics.] it's only 9 weeks of skimming material with no discussions or critical thinking applied.
Basically, they tell you about inflation then you graduate.
You know, so you're prepared.

ive been having an ongoing discussion with my friend, a teacher, throughout his years in grad school. we email back and forth about his classes, i help him write and edit his papers, and he lets me read his textbooks when hes finished with them.

one of his most interesting classes hes had to date is something like the history of education in the republic.
the public school system was created, not to educate and enlighten the masses, but to create a literate post industrial revolution workforce and to instill patriotism. not much has changed. the goal is still to grow people to happily fuel the work force, and of course, to instill patriotism. not to teach you to think outside of the box, not to encourage creativity, not to inspire future problem solvers; simply to fill available positions to keep the economy going and with the shift out of factories and into walmarts, we need to grow alot of little consumers to buy all the shit were selling at our jobs.

and now of course, universities bring lots of jobs to communities, so weve had to dumb those down alot too so that everyone can go to college. it was not meant for everyone to go to college. and now that we think it is, the classes are grossly dumbed down and filled with all the morons you went to high school with. and now you need a fucking a bachelors degree to work in retail.

HA!
i made twice the amount of a bachelor degree holding graduate!?! sweet holy mother of irony!
doin what you ask?
waiting tables,bartending and event co-ordinator.
and i actually enjoyed my work.
still buying into that whole "you need to go to college if you ever expect to succeed BULLSHIT"?
well,if money is the parameter in which you gauge your success....you lost that race scooter.
think on this:a waiter makes double what you spent six years to achieve and the waiter has no debt.
think on that and despair.
you have been lied to.

>> ^ForgedReality:
What about those of us who have been on twelve interviews since graduating, and refuse to take a fucking retail job making minimum wage, yet because Obama doesn't give fuck all about the economy, and is therefore doing NOTHING about it, companies will not hire you without years and years of experience, even if you have a bachelor's since it's just too big of a financial risk to invest in new employees, and, thus, we're motherfucking screwed. How about us, huh?
Thank you for wasting billions upon billions of the dollars we haven't even printed yet, Bush and Obama. How swell of you to think of the big picture.


I'm just going to go out on a limb here but is your "bachelor degree" simply a passing grade? I apologise if it's not but otherwise please be aware there is actually a difference between getting a degree and getting a degree that actually shows you have the the relevant level of experience.

Also what Nithern and longde said. Life's tough when people stop holding your hand, you're not the first graduate who *gasp* has to take more than 12 interviews. You're also not the first graduate to find themselves with only retail jobs available, please get off your high horse, you're not God's gift to the employment world.

Companies WILL hire any candidate they see a FUTURE in, I suspect if your attitude comes off as it does in this comment, it is no wonder you don't scream "employ me".

>> ^tedbater:
>> ^nanrod:
I wonder if it ever occurs to Kirk that maybe there's a correlation between higher IQ's and lack of religious belief.

I'm a doctor and have strong faith in Christ.


I think non educated people are easy to convince of something (and most or ALL of the times is for the benefit of who ever is trying to convice them)
BUT! most of the time non educated religios people are willing to help you out more that the so call non religious "Intelligent ones"

I do belive in GOD but not on ANY religion

and I do have a bachelor degree in computer science

>> ^Sagemind:
What I have issues with is when someone starts to force their belief system on other people. Like they are doing a favour for someone who just doesn't know it yet. Saving them even! I'd sit and listen to a Muslim story because there's knowledge in knowing what's out there. I'd do the same for any Christian, Buddhist, Hindu or any other religion. Just don't tell me that your way is the only way. And definitely NEVER tell me that my way is the WRONG way. Don't infiltrate what I believe and I will respect what you believe. I may not believe it, but I will respect it.

And that's exacly the problem now with the atheists, instead of "going to hell" if you dont belive has they , "you are stupid"