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I'm sick of opinions, free thoughts and individualism.

The auto industry deserves to be burned to the ground and rebuilt on a rocky foundation. Anything else is just a fools distraction.

>> ^Fjnbk:
Yay, goodbye auto industry. Goodbye, Detroit. Goodbye, millions of jobs. I am utterly sick of libertarianism, Ron Paul, Ayn Rand, Republicans, Objectivism, etc.

I'm right here. Cash only, please. Somewhere around 50K will do it. Thanks.

>> ^MarineGunrock:
I love giving my money to people that don't deserve it.

>> ^quantumushroom:
The greatest argument against the viability of unions has been the unions themselves, not the GOP. It's economics: you cannot have 4 or 5 retirees earning benefits for every full-time worker.


Says someone who's not in a union.

I am (MPSC 839), and there's no way in hell that I'd ever want to be without. Studios in my field that are non-union do NOT pay competitive wages, or have nearly the benefits we do. People in my industry are dying to get into union work for very good, important, specific reasons.

Rougy said the rest better than I can.

>> ^soulmonarch:
Upvote Paulitics.
He may possibly be the only non-socialist representative currently in the United States government.

I think Karl Marx just rolled over in his grave again for the hundredth million time (he's been watching Faux news). You may have won a prize, but then you'd have to give half of it to your fellow human beings. Guess you'll just have to make do without it, huh? I mean, more stupidity isn't exactly what you need most right now anyway.

>> ^quantumushroom:

The America-based Japanese car companies have no unions, their employees make good wages and their companies aren't facing extinction.


...and yet their take-home pay is similar once you subtract the union dues from the UAW pay scale. Unions are just another form of government outside the Government, acting like a business where it tell it's shareholders what to do, rather than the other way round.

>> ^quantumushroom:

Complaining about this pissant 15 billion auto union bailout is like getting upset over the blood stains in the carpet in a roomful of dead bodies.


Damn straight.

But you know why they're complaining so loud don't you? This isn't about "wasting tax payer money". This is about the GOP trying to once and for all completely dismantle organized labor, beginning with the steel and auto workers union.

Expected </beginsDrama> started on line 1, could not be rendered by the man.

>> ^NordlichReiter:
<beginsDrama>
<yelling>
FUCKING LISTEN TO THE MAN!
FOR FUCK SAKE, THEY THROW MONEY AROUND LIKE ITS WET TOILET PAPER.
</yelling>
<tiredwhisper>
It's all a fucking joke, freedom was a fucking joke. They fleeced this country a long time ago. Continue working, use your credit cards, pay your bills, and sell your flesh.
</tiredWhisper>
</endDrama>

I just wrote my Senators:



Dear Senator [enter name],

I ask that you oppose this auto bailout. The large Wall Street bailout was a terrible mistake. We need not make that mistake again.

Think of those of us who are suffering during this economic hard time. These bailouts increase inflation causing our savings to be worth less and less every day. By NOT supporting this bailout, Senator, you will send a clear message to California that you respect the individual value of the people's personal savings and earnings, and furthermore you do not believe in rewarding corporate inefficiency.

The auto-industry is already one of the most regulated industries in this country, and a bailout will bring more government regulation and additional costs to us, the taxpayers. Alleviating even a little of the red tape would free up resources for them to address their financial situations, save jobs, and produce quality products to jumpstart sales.

Sincerest regards,
[name]



I copied that last part from the Campaign For Liberty site almost verbatim.

Fixed, it seems I had an attack of the bad grammar today. Nearly all of my comments are misspelled and butchered.

In reply to this comment by MarineGunrock:
Threw?

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
*promote

Thanks for the Promote!

And then there's this email I received from the Campaign for Liberty tonight, an email I expect because I signed up for it.


December 10, 2008

Dear fellow Patriot,

Just as we promised, Congressional leaders weren't content with their $700 billion bailout this past fall and are ready to pass another one -- this time for the American automotive industry.

Visit our activist Liberty Blog at http://www.campaignforliberty.com to learn how you can help fight this round of government theft and wealth redistribution, or just keep reading.

In the agreement just formulated earlier today by Congressional Democrats and the White House, our government has pledged to wrest another $23 billion away from taxpayers to subsidize the inefficiency and reward the poor management and performance of -- count them -- one, two, three giant corporations.

But that's not all.

More intervention like this means greater government oversight and regulation -- and more inflation as the government prints and spends even more dollars.

As one economic thinker once reflected, a subsidy may be a form of establishment, but it's really a means of capture.

Even if the bailout passes the house, we have a chance to muster some opposition in the Senate.

Using the contact information provided on our website, tell your Senator to support the Ensign filibuster. While you’re at it, thank Senator Ensign for standing up to Big Labor and Big Business.

Auto Bailout Looming

It looks like the White House and Congressional Democrat leadership have reached a deal on the auto bailout, although there aren't very many details at this point.

Plans for a "car czar" seem to still be included as part of the deal. So, not only will your money be spent for the bailout, it will be used to pay a new government appointee, staff his office, and take care of the other requirements that come along with that job. (It also gives them one more person to shift the blame to when the problems continue.)

All of this is being done again, of course, out of "necessity," we are told. Just like buying up all the toxic assets was a "necessity" until the Treasury got the money and decided to spend it on everything but. This is what happens when the majority of Congress is not guided by any philosophy other than the one that says that government can cure all of our ills with just a little more money (or billions more).

A vote could come at any time, with signs pointing toward later today.

To keep reading for up-to-date news on the bailout, sample letters, and your
representatives' contact information, visit C4L’s blog at http://www.campaignforliberty.com and take action right away.

If you haven't already done so, please bookmark our website www.campaignforliberty.com for real-time news updates and discussion regarding our shared freedoms and liberty.

For liberty,


John Tate
President
Campaign For Liberty

Refutations posted on ThinkProgress:

"Unions do not deserve the blame placed on them by the right wing. In fact, unions have repeatedly made concessions to auto executives over recent years. Contrary to Kyl’s claim, new auto employees earn $25.65 an hour.

Big Three automaker CEOs and executives based their business model on a future of cheap oil, fighting fuel efficiency standards despite warnings against such a strategy. Detroit manufactured, as Tom Friedman pointed out, oversized gas-guzzling SUVs that reduced their competitive edge.

Financial firms AIG, Merrill Lynch, and Bear Stearns did not have unionized workers but still suffered economic collapses. Frozen credit markets and a spiraling recession were major contributors to Detroit’s current state. Today, the Center for American Progress urged Congress “to support legislation to grant a $25 billion bridge loan to the U.S. auto companies to ensure that they avoid bankruptcy” provided the automakers provide health and retirement security and invest in clean technology."

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/11/17/unions-auto-bailout/