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Fox's Shepard Smith On Kim Davis: "Haters Are Gonna Hate"

newtboy says...

Kim Davis was just ordered to pay over $260000 in attorney fees on top of the $100000 judgement they won for denying them their right to get married.


newtboy (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Hmmmm….did you think better about this post and remove it @bobknight33? It’s disappeared. I’ll put it back here where it’s safe……


You are way beyond ignorant.

Trump was found guilty on day one because the evidence that was 100% undisputed by Trump proved his guilt absolutely, not even a requirement for guilt in civil court. Evidence, and supporting facts had absolutely been presented by both parties, litigated, and stipulated to…years and years of contradictory and fraudulent business records filed with the state under penalty of perjury….it’s what’s known as a prima facie case,
“ A prima facie case is a cause of action or defense that is sufficiently established by a party's evidence to justify a verdict in his or her favor, provided such evidence is not rebutted by the other party.”
The evidence was not rebutted, Trump blatantly minimized value beyond reason for tax purposes and inflated it beyond reason for loan purposes…both in writing with his and his children swearing to the veracity of the numbers.

There was absolutely no rebuttal to the fact that the Trump organization committed repeated and massive frauds in New York. I know Trump has gone on tv and made claims that he disputed the evidence , but the facts are he did not dispute it in court under oath, only on camera where he can lie freely.

There was a bench trial not a jury trial because Trump did not request a jury until after the penalty phase of trial had started, well beyond the legal deadline. Are you saying he should get special treatment because his chosen lawyers are incompetent? I and the courts think not! I think you would insist on the bench trial with an unfavorable judge if this were a Democrat in court…in fact I know so. 😂

😂 Yes I DO find these type of court actions OK in America, they are absolutely normal legal procedure that any competent attorney could have avoided at every turn, but Trumps are too busy giving interviews and fundraising for him to actually do the trial work, you get the lawyers you deserve, and Star fucking camera chasers are the only ones who will work for a debt welcher and insane and dangerous client like Trump.

bobknight33 said:

You way beyond blind.

Found guilty by the judge on day 1 -- no facts presented yet no jury - per judge since he decided Trump guilt on day 1. no jury trial needed per judge because no trial needed- only how guilty is Trump at hand.


And you dont find this type of court actions - ok in America?

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Trump has lost his appeal of the second Carrol case based on absolute presidential immunity.
His lawyers forgot to assert it as a defense 3 years ago …another huge “L” for Trump in court thanks to unbelievably shitty lawyers. Sometimes you get the attorneys you deserve.

Also, Cheesboro kept texts in his phone where he mentions knowing that the fake electors and their “certifying documents” that the White House supplied are highly illegal and need to be altered, and the texts where a campaign aid told him not to change them to make them contingent on the real electors being tossed in each state, don’t change a thing “fuck those guys” was the answer, and he didn’t.

There’s intent for the Jan 6 case….undeniable knowledge that what they were doing was illegal well before they tried the scheme.

As a bonus, Jack Smith reportedly somehow has AND CRACKED Trump’s secret White House cell phone (and 3 co-conspirators’ phones) with all the texts and emails from Jan 6. (As a reminder the White House illegally made no records of any calls or texts made on Jan 6 in a clear attempt to hide their actions from that day, and were found to have used personal private cell phones to communicate during the coup, phones that had to be seized with warrants and that they all refused to “unlock”). Game over man.

As a side note, the Florida GOP chairman credibly accused of raping he and his wife’s bisexual sex partner has now exposed his vitriolically anti LGBTQ / pro-family values wife’s lesbian and multi-partner sexual activities, the school board she’s on has voted to oust her already, and she’s going to be thrown out of the fascio-Christian group she started - Moms for Liberty. Desantis has not indicated he plans on removing her from either her school board position nor her position on the Disney tourism board he appointed her to despite her hypocrisy and public debauchery, because MAGA is hypocrisy and debauchery…always especially true of those who’ve made a career fighting against “debauchery”. 😂

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

😂 Trump is up in arms over that Lincoln Project ad, he claims they made him look stupid old and fat. I’m pretty certain it was Trump who made Trump look stupid old and fat by being stupid old and fat! 😂

Here’s an older one he didn’t claim was doctored where they use most of the same clips, and he looks like he looked….old, fat, unhealthy, and unsteady.


Bonus- McCarthy is leaving congress in disgrace at the end of the month. So is Bill Johnson. That paper thin majority in one half of congress is down to one.

Extra bonus- Trump’s “best legal people” screwed him again by missing another deadline, again, out of pure laziness… this one to appeal the reinstatement of the gag order before he testifies next Monday (can’t wait for that train wreck), and they totally screwed up the appeal too, asking for a single judge to hear their appeal after a 4 judge panel ruled on it and overrule them. The next step is the entire NY Supreme Court, not one cherry picked judge to overrule a 4 judge panel. Any competent lawyer would know that, no one on Trumps team did. They’re trying an ineffectual council defense, but that means he expects to be convicted first and is so certain of that that he isn’t trying to offer any defense at all, just incompetent attorneys. 😂

newtboy said:

*video of Trump being old, fat, feeble, and exhibiting dementia*

Ooof-

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

“Did you ever think that the values were off in your statement of financial condition?” Assistant Attorney General Kevin Wallace asked the former president,
“yes, on occasion” Trump responded
😂

Case closed. That’s it. That’s Trump admitting he knowingly and willfully committed major bank and tax fraud…”on occasion”.

He tried the “I have a disclaimer clause so I’m allowed to lie as much as I want.” defense…Engoron has already ruled that the clause does not absolve him of the responsibility to provide true and accurate reports of property values to both lenders and the state, does not allow him to lie or substitute possible future value for today’s actual value, and doesn’t allow the exaggeration of square footage either…all of which he admitted on the stand that he does.

Letting Trump testify was the worst decision Habba has made yet, and it’s going to end in both a total loss in court, a minimum of $250 million in damages maybe much more, and criminal charges against Trump and maybe his kids for the frauds. He would have been infinitely better off staying silent and just losing…but we all know remaining silent is an impossibility for him.

Edit-He’s in check mate for Jan 6 by Chutkan too. He’s saying publicly that he intends to use an “advice of council” defense, trying to claim he just got bad advice that he could foment a coup and send fake electors to steal the election so shouldn’t be libel, but he and his dime store lawyers didn’t understand that that defense waives 100% of attorney client privilege and now he’s being forced to decide if he will use that defense before trial and if so must disclose all communications with his lawyers from 2020-21. 😂

So in short, either disclose all records of his planning for Jan 6 and the big lie which itself would disprove and negate his advice of council defense, or forget the advice of council defense, the only defense he had.
😂 Would the prisoner like a blindfold or a cigarette? 😂

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Ruh-roe… remember the 30000 emails from Clinton’s server that ended up having nothing untoward in them once they were found?…well 15,000 or more “lost” emails and texts surrounding the fake elector schemes belonging to disgraced former Coffee County election supervisor Misty Hampton are now in the hands of the Fulton County district attorney as they prepare for the trial against Sidney Powell and ken Chesebro beginning this Friday after the FBI uncovered them.
These were listed as “lost” and had been hidden by Trump co-defendant Hampton, and will include her invitations to Powell and other Trump frauds to come steal election data and tamper with voting machines…just in time for Powell’s trial which will essentially be discovery for Trump’s trial…and he’s toast with what’s already been discovered in every trial he faces.
Enjoy. 😂

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Wow.
Chesebro, indicted former constitution attorney for Trump, actually hired a court reporter and prepared transcripts of the meetings of the fake electors, and filed that transcript in his efforts to move his case to federal court.
Not smart. 🤦‍♂️

Oooohhh!…another bonus…In his filings to remove his case to federal court, he and Powell have basically claimed they only gave legal advice Trump specifically asked for, so it doesn’t matter that they advised him to try blatantly illegal actions to steal the presidency after he lost the election.
Officially blaming Trump as the master and architect of the highly illegal fraudulent elector scheme to defraud the nation.
The good part is Trump filed the exact same argument in his effort to escape state court…apparently without reading it because he just admitted he was in charge and the one asking how to get away with this election fraud scheme he designed.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

I’ve been slacking….

176 Darrell Gilyard, Jerry Falwell protege, must really be some preacher, convicted of child molestation, on parole and back in the pulpit. So they ban children from the church

177 Conservative Baptist minister Matt Baker murdered his wife

178 Richmond County Republican Party official Brett Bennie Langham was indicted for child molestation.

179 FOX News Latino VP, Francisco Cortes - sexual harassment

180 Eric Bolling, formerly FOX News - sexual harassment

181 Kimberley Guilfoyle - FOX NEws - sexual harassment

182 David Garland, President of rightwing Baptist Baylor University, covered up rapes, said women willingly became victims.

183 Political hack and professional hypocrite Ken Starr covered up rapes while Chancellor at Baylor

184 Stephen Dalton Baril just got not jail time even though he took a plea for rape, perhaps because his grandfather was John Dalton, a former governor, and his father Steve Baril ran for Attorney General.

185 Greenville County Sheriff Will Lewis, Republican, indicted for rape, stalking, obstruction

186 While Oklahoma Republican representative George Faught did not commit rape and incest (as far as I know) he said it’s all part of God's will, so he joins the list of rape enablers.

187 Connecticut Republican politician Christopher von Keyserling was arrested and charged with sexual assault. Trump’s his role model. He said it, not me.

187 Bob Jones University Blamed Victims, not Abusers

189 Rhode Island state Sen. Nicholas Kettle, a 27-year-old Coventry Republican, of twice coercing a Senate student page to have sex with him

190 Milo Yiannopolous defended pedophilia, saying older men can show younger men who they are

191 Caleb Bailey, Trump delegate - child pornography

192 Paul Travis Williams, former Lumpkin Co GOP Chair, child pornography

193 Bishop Raymond Burke of Missouri said John Kerry should not get communion, excommunicated all sorts of people, but not pedophile priests

194 CJ Maheney covered up sexual abuse in his churches

195 Megachurch pastor Bob Coy raped and molested a girl from age 4 until she was 14 and his Republican pals helped cover it up, sealing his divorce file, not investigating the complaint

196 Baptist Megachurch Pastor Matt Chandler punished a woman for divorcing her pedophile husband. Did not punish the husband.

197 AZ GOP State Sen. Scott Bundegaard - domestic violence, not arrested at the time because cops believed him when he said he had immunity while House was in session

198 WA GOP state Rep. Matt Manweller is accused of sexual misconduct with students and legislative aides.

199 TX GOP state Sen. Charles Schwertner accused of sending sexting grad student, sending dick pic

200 Indiana Republican Attorney General Curtis Hill - groping

Party of debauchery. Waiting for you to post the list of Democrat politicians with similar convictions…it’s going to be short and a one time only thing…I’ve got at least 38 more pages to go listing high power conservative sex abusers just from this one list, and it’s not all inclusive. Who could be surprised? Your leader is a repeated publicly known pedophilic RAPIST and incestous creep.

Bonus’s E Jene Carrol already won her second defamation case against Trump the rapist…it’s going straight to the damages phase just like Giuliani and the poll workers. Wow your team sucks slimy donkey dicks in court, losing completely before you even start defending yourselves repeatedly!

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Trump just lost his $100 million defamation suit against his niece, 3 reporters, and The NY Times for exposing the decades of tax fraud he and his father engaged in to build their fortune (as well as redlining) that got them a Pulitzer. 😂

The suit was so frivolous he has to pay all their attorney fees because….get this…his lawsuit was trying to go after them for what is clearly PROTECTED FIRST AMENDMENT SPEECH! Trump absolutely HATES paying lawyers.

So much for his public (but not tried in court because it’s nonsense) defense that his trials are about first amendment protected speech which he reveres….but clearly only for himself.

At some point, he should realize he hasn’t won in court in years and isn’t going to win any of his criminal trials either. His lawyers are all getting disbarred and put in prison, which should be a good indicator of the quality of their legal advice. Never hire YES men to be your lawyers…often your lawyer’s job is to tell you NO!

As a bonus, filings indicate Trump inflated his net worth by 50%, but I think that’s minimizing his exaggeration since in some cases like Maralago he was claiming in sworn financial documents it was a single family residence he could sell for $750 million but in reality it’s valued by the county at $19 million and is only zoned as a social club, not a residence. D’oh! How funny will it be when he can’t come up with the $250 million judgement even after selling his interest in all his properties. He already can’t pay his criminal attorneys and judgements…he couldn’t even come up with $200k bail, he needed a bond!

As a second bonus, the case to disqualify him on the 14th in Michigan has been filed. It’s a winner. But by all means, don’t let that convince you to stop supporting him blindly. We want him to be the nominee, it’s a guaranteed sweep for Democrats if he is.

Proud Boy Joseph Biggs is going to be standing back and standing by for 17 years! He should have gotten 30 with a terrorism enhancement, but his Trump appointed judge felt sorry for him. Cried a river at sentencing. 😂

😂 In Trumps deposition in NY he blamed all the fraud his company committed on his son Eric (omitting Don Jr who was clearly in charge during his presidency)…not sure how he thinks that’s a defense, Eric and Don Jr only ran it (on paper) after 2017, but the crimes charged go back decades.
He said he just didn’t have time to run his businesses, but must have forgotten he had plenty of time to fly to different states (or countries) to play golf at least 298 times during his tenure (at a Cost to Taxpayers of About $144,000,000 according to the GAO)
So, he blames his dumb son for absolutely no defense, just as deflection that reminds everyone what an absentee “always on vacation” president he was. That’s the loyalty he has for others. This is you guy, this you pick.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Er mer gerd, the stupidity….the sound of freedom, the fake Q movie produced by Mexicans, is 100% being astroturfed by selling out entire theaters to make it seem popular, but multiple videos of these sold out showings are completely empty, not one single actual person in the sold out theater. Nice try at fake popularism, but another total failure at producing a fake movement.

What do you want to bet that the Trump campaign somehow used campaign donations to buy out theaters to pretend their Q message is popular?

Watch, soon they’ll be telling you what an important film with an important message that hundreds of thousands now “know” and tons of “facts” you need to know about the child trafficking adrenochrome cabal despite it being pure fantasy that even the creators won’t vouch for.
Another 2000 mules being sold to 2000000 jackasses that love being suckered by liars.

Just more MAGAQ grift…every single thing MAGA says is a lie, most of it is admissions couched in projection. Suckers.

BTW, the rapist Trump’s defense that his lawyers Giuliani and Powell and told him the coup was legal is a loser. Dozens more real lawyers without dementia told him it was illegal, as did the DOJ, and even Trump is recorded mocking the idiotic plan to send fake electors or have Pence choose the president himself, knowing how dumb and illegal both plans were, but later he decided they were his only options.
Not that it matters, his mindset can only be contradicted by Trump himself on the stand, and do you think any lawyer is dumb enough to let the rapist and liar testify? Can you even imagine the dozens of new charges arising from his contradictory and false testimony!?!
Also, his mindset doesn’t matter, it’s his actions that are on trial, not some thought crime. “I’m too dumb and ignorant to know I lost” is not a defense to fomenting multiple coup attempts.

😂 joy: 😂

Ruh-roe….there are new financial disclosures that show that Trump’s Save America PAC has been using small donor money to pay his and other witness and co conspirator legal fees and is broke, (now we know how he wasted over $50 million without paying his own lawyers, using the mob MO of hiring lawyers for subordinates that are loyal only to the Don, not their clients…those subordinates are usually convicted while protecting the crime boss) so busted that it has had to demand a $60 million refund from the MAGA Inc. SuperPac just to get through the year, a refund that also indicates illegal coordination between the SuperPac and Trump’s campaign. More illegal money laundering and SuperPac/campaign collusion (explicitly forbidden) so he could secretly use personal campaign donations for his mounting personal legal woes (including witness tampering by paying their attorneys, something a defendant cannot legally do).
He REALLY needs better attorneys, “my criminal attorneys told me to do the crimes” is not a defense, it’s a guilty plea. 😂

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Once again Trump appointed prosecutor David Weiss sent a public letter/reprimand to Republican Senator Lindsey Graham again stating that he had full control over the Hunter Biden criminal investigation had never been denied authority to bring charges in ANY jurisdiction and the latest GOP fake whistleblower (that hasn’t ever testified under oath) is another outright liar with clear bias, this one angry he wasn’t promoted by Weiss… another fraud like all the rest have been conclusively proven to be (the ones that actually existed that is, most Republican “whistleblowers” never existed anywhere but the lying minds of Republicans, they aren’t real people they’re made up just like the phantom “tapes”).

This is the third time he has had to publicly correct Republican senators that continue to outright lie about the facts in efforts to protect Trump from the consequences of his uncountable anti American crimes (crimes much worse than wearing or defacing flags, dozens and dozens of treasonous and seditious crimes). Poor babies, even the unqualified judges they stuffed the judiciary with aren’t helping them escape exposure and justice. They all know, Trump is only ONE of many targets Jack Smith has his eyes on, and he’s not fucking around.

D’oh! The forensic evaluation of the “Hunter laptop” has now proven most if not all data had been altered or installed after it was in Giuliani’s possession. Much of it poorly, like the fake WhatsApp text MAGA has latched onto as proof of crime that is actually in the wrong color, the wrong format, and even though it’s purported to be a text from 2017 (on a day when Hunter and Joe were now proven to not be together) it has a photo of Hunter as his avatar in the screenshot that’s from 2022.
Hide and watch…Hunter is going to sue every Republican Senator for $10 million each and he’s going to get it. Dumbshits….never knowingly falsely slander and libel the son of the president, it won’t work out. 😂

Oh SNAP!! ANOTHER!!! Gal Luft, THE "very credible witness on Biden family corruption" - James Comer, has been arrested for eight counts after jumping bail in Feb., including failing to register as a foreign agent, evading oil sanctions, two counts of making false statements to investigators and three counts of illicit arms trafficking.
Accused by U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York of having "subverted foreign agent registration laws in the United States to seek to promote Chinese policies by acting through a former high-ranking U.S. Government official." And stated he had “agreed to covertly recruit and pay" the official, an adviser to then President-elect Donald Trump, to "publicly support certain policies with respect to China." Luft is also accused of attempting to broker "illicit arms transactions with, among others, certain Chinese individuals and entities." He allegedly worked to broker a deal for Chinese companies to sell weapons, including anti-tank launchers, grenade launchers and mortar rounds, to Libya. He’s also accused of brokering sales of Iranian oil.
Notice…sold influence on presidential policy on China, similar to the baseless accusations against Hunter…EVEY ACCUSATION IS AN ADMISSION, even the Hunter accusations. 😂 😂 😂 JUST FUCKING WOW SON.
https://www.newsweek.com/gal-luft-indictment-biden-whistleblower-charged-1812161

These MAGA tears are so yummy and sweet, you guys. YUMMY! MMMMMM….


bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Do you think Hunter Biden should be impeached?


😂 Lin Wood, Trump’s lawyer, is begging to be allowed to give up his law license before he is sanctioned by the state bar disciplinary committee that is clearly going to strip his license and likely fine him too. In his request, he indicates he still plans to file and try cases without a license by representing himself pro-se (being your own attorney) in more frivolous cases he intends to file by himself. If the disciplinary committee rules, he will certainly be labeled a vexatious litigant and be barred from filing cases himself…that’s why he’s trying this stunt.
You’ve got to be fucking kidding me, you seditious traitor and terrorist fraud. He should be up for the firing squad, not civil penalties.
I sure hope some MAGA judge doesn’t improperly insert themselves and accept this get out of jail free ploy….that’s the only way he’s going to get away with this.

newtboy (Member Profile)

surfingyt says...

Making Attorneys Get Attorneys

newtboy said:

PS- Trump’s idiot lawyers shit the bed again. Last year they got together at a restaurant to discuss their problems with one of their own, Boris Epstein, who they discussed publicly as someone who was a filter between them and Trump, and that he was a liar who lied to them and Trump and obstructed them from complying with court orders….and at the next table was a reporter from the Guardian who has now published an article about this meeting. This doesn’t help Trump’s legal team work together….something they’ve been incapable of so far, and something Trump needs desperately! 😂

Trump Arrest Deepfakes Are Going Viral

newtboy says...

Guilty of every charge. 😂

Trump’s lackeys are out of power and the DOJ is no longer acting as his personal defense attorney. New prosecutors did their job, and got convictions.

A $5 million nothing burger. I’ll take one.

Let’s see…millions spent investigating Trump’s criminal administration and HUNDREDS of convictions, now 25 more convictions for Trump himself (and he immediately repeated the crime on the courthouse steps after his convictions, guaranteeing two more multi million dollar cases by Carrol alone), and hundreds more to come. You need to go to kindergarten math, because hundreds > 0… 25 > 0.
Hundreds of convictions to show, from Trump to pages and every level in between. This alone speaks volumes that the entire administration was corrupt beyond belief and had absolutely zero respect for rules, laws, or ethics.
Up to 10 serious criminal cases in the works for Trump….some filed. Hardly nothing.
I think you’ve proven again that your grasp on reality is tenuous at best, because you claim hundreds of serious felony criminal charges and dozens of convictions already for Trump personally is “nothing”.

Again, not addressing your made up $60 million number, but no matter how much has been spent it’s been a bargain, because it forced the administration to stop its illegal actions time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time again.

$200 million (I can make up numbers too) spent investigating Biden and actually nothing found, no charges, no specific accusations, no witnesses, no evidence, nothing at all but blanket accusations that he’s somehow criminal, we just don’t know how yet.
>$200 million investigating Clinton (verified), same results, nothing.

Gonna be hilarious soon, the judge in NY is forcing Trump to take a class instructing him how he must handle the evidence in his NY fraud cases Aand that he’s not allowed to talk about it so, when he violates the court order and starts tweeting out the evidence, he cannot claim he didn’t know better. It’s a trap Trump cannot keep from walking into. He’s going to jail before he goes to prison because he’s incapable of following the basic rules everyone else must live by. 😂

bobknight33 said:

The charges are softer than a old mans dick.

Even CNN is WTF on these charges.
DOJ and Election committee and the NY state DA all looked into this and said NOPE , nothing here. Yet NYC DA ran on getting Trump and this is the best he came up with. Recycled nothing burgers.

Yet another nothing burger.

Lets see 60$ million spent to "get Trump" since he came down the escalator and still ZERO.

60$ million and NOTHING to show . This alone speaks volumes that there is no there there.

So many hoping, dreaming that something, anything can be found. If 60$ Million has found nothing perhaps - you and your kind need to rethink this matter.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Richard Crist, James Gordon and Leslie Wallace are in custody for quote "violating federal laws."
These three MAGA officials are just the latest in a LONG LONG line of MAGA officials and candidates caught stealing ballots, filling them out for MAGgots, and submitting them as votes.
The arrests come after two other county republican leaders pleaded guilty to election fraud, Republican election commissioner Jason Schofield and Troy City Council woman Kimberly Ashe-McPherson. Both resigned from their posts and admitted to absentee ballot fraud.

In 2021, New York State Attorney General Letitia James got involved when the Rensselaer County Board of Elections decided not to put a voting site in Troy, a minority community. She won.



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