>> ^imstellar28:
With a few days of research you can be more informed than the average doctor on any specific pathology. The only difference between me and a doctor is 160 course hours, and I'll bet he didn't take a full class on treating asthma.

The only difference between me and a NASA scientist is a over inflated government budget! TO SOLARIS MY FELLOW HUMANS!

I can't Google "how to treat asthma" or "asthma drugs" or "severe asthma attack" ? Or ask someone I know who is a doctor? Or go to MTI open courseware and get myself a biomedical degree for free?

http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Health-Sciences-and-Technology/index.htm

This is the 21st century. Information is no longer a monopoly. With a few days of research you can be more informed than the average doctor on any specific pathology. The only difference between me and a doctor is 160 course hours, and I'll bet he didn't take a full class on treating asthma.

>> ^peggedbea
4. the fact is, you really have no business trying to assess the cost and circumstances surrounding medicine healthcare or childhood illnesses.

Why do you think your preventative home medication is $875 a month, when it costs maybe 5 cents to make?

How long were the doctors working on your son, and what drugs did they administer? You think that was worth $4,000? A reasonable pay for a ER doctor, in my opinion, is say $60 an hour ($120,000 a year). The drugs to treat asthma shouldn't cost more than $10. So doing some math, I'm going to guess you son was being treated in the ER for 66 straight hours?

Wait it was only like 1 hour?

You are in this position because of government regulation. It is a historical fact that the average time to market medicinal drugs increased 10 fold, and the average cost for drugs increased 100 fold after the FDA came into being. You paying $875 for medicine which should cost $8.75 is a result of the asinine policy you are supporting.

Healthcare and medicine are both highly regulated by the government. Engineering is practically devoid of regulation. You think doctors are smarter than engineers, or that working on the human body is harder than creating electrical structures 1/1000th the size of the human hair?

Why can I go to Walmart and buy a computer which can perform 3,000,000,000 operations a second for less than $300, yet you have to pay $875 a month for some common chemicals?

Asking for other people to pay for health insurance to cover your $875 chemicals is as ridiculous as asking for other people to pay $30,000 to put a Walmart computer in your home.

If being educated enough to understand the problems in this world makes me a troll, then paint me green.

>> ^peggedbea:
the ER bill is $4000, i thought i said that.
his preventative home administered asthma medication is $350/per month after my insurance pays 40%. he recieves a dose everyday as a preventative measure. when hes in a flair up its 4-6 doses a day. the nebulizer cost $500. we bought it 3 years ago. you obviously know nothing about children healthcare and asthma.

1. i have lived in poverty. i worked my ass off while taking care of 2 kids to get out of it. and that is why i think you should try it. you seem to desperately need some perspective before you attempt to proselytize here.

2.the ER bill is $4000, i thought i said that.
his preventative home administered asthma medication is $350/per month after my insurance pays 40%. he recieves a dose everyday as a preventative measure. when hes in a flair up its 4-6 doses a day. the nebulizer cost $500. we bought it 3 years ago. you obviously know nothing about children healthcare and asthma. i couldve always just watched him asphyxiate while his airway swelled shut and the home treatments we were prescribed and had on hand were not effective.

3. did you miss the 500 posts ive made about how I HAVE WORKED IN A FUCKING EMERGENCY ROOM FOR 8 FUCKING YEARS?!?! so fuck me and my kids because their sorry ass mother chose to be a hourly wage slob providing healthcare to a mostly hispanic and poor demographic. if you want to talk about how much healthcare costs and why it costs so much and treatments, procedures, illnesses, pathologies and tests with anyone on the sift, im sure i can hold my own.

4. the fact is, you really have no business trying to assess the cost and circumstances surrounding medicine healthcare or childhood illnesses.

If everyone like me stopped working, you'd be living in poverty too. I didn't say I was going to stop working...just stop paying taxes. By the time socialism is in full swing in this country I'll be retired and you'll still be slaving 40+ hours a week to pay all my bills.

Cheers.

>> ^peggedbea
i completely support your idea to drop out and live in abject poverty. maybe then you wouldnt be such a whiny objectivist selfish little bitch who lacks the perspective to have a relevant fucking take on anything.

As an addendum, I wonder how much that ER bill is when your son has an asthma attack? Surely you are present, and can see what exactly they are doing (giving him a anti-inflammatory, likely a steroid, either intravenously or via a respirator). I wonder how much those shots or respirators would cost if they were freely available? $5, $10? How hard would they be to administer at home? The fact is, you really don't have any business going to an emergency room for an asthma attack.

i tend to think when "the big guy" gets all fucking freaked out about tweeking the status quo its because the little guy might actually come out of it a teeny bit ahead.

insurance companies make money denying people coverage.

you invinsible "im young healthy and fairly well off, i dont need health coverage" i take care of your invinsible asses all the time. youre usually the ones who cry about the iv and bitch about the bill.

i know this wasnt exactly brought up, but its something that erks the fucking fuck out of me.
so, let me address this "illegals" using the ER as a clinic are uninsured and never pay their bill. see these "illegals" pay sales tax on everything they buy, they pay taxes on their utilities, their cell phones and they pay property tax, even if its rolled into their rent and paid by a landlord. they pay taxes. all the time. even if nots income tax. truthfully they probably pay more taxes than i do since i get that big fat single mom of 2 kids tax rebate business and texas has no state income tax and im frugal and try real hard not to buy anything. soooo... all that sales tax they pay (and in a border state like texas i bet thats a HUGE amount of money), part of it goes into the county cauffers that has money set aside in its budget to reimburse hospitals for indigent care. so yes, they ARE paying for healthcare, in a sort of socialized redistrubuted kind of way. ooooh scary.

oh and as for not paying an ER bill, i work in an ER. i have what might resemble the worlds shittiest health insurance plan. my son has asthma and is a bit accident prone to boot. i have a $5000 deductible per family member. so when i leave the ER for a legitimate emergency (asthma attacks, stitches, etc)and get a bill that says my insurance company isnt going to pay shit and i owe $4000. i. dont. fucking. pay. it. i pay $400/month and my insurance doesnt cover a damn asthma attack at the hospital ive given 8 years of my life to.
the system is broken. as much i despise the government something has to be done. and its real apparent the free market isnt going to take care of it.

and im stellar28, i completely support your idea to drop out and live in abject poverty. maybe then you wouldnt be such a whiny objectivist selfish little bitch who lacks the perspective to have a relevant fucking take on anything.

OK, I have got to ask---why the F**K are those people still living around there? If your kids are getting headaches/nosebleeds/asthma, get off your lazy ass and MOVE! I don't care who is responsible. It is better to be living out of your car than to be living in a toxic waste dump.

It's like these people are waiting for a big government check and they pulled in the white version of Jesse Jackson to help.

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oh, i also spent $2000 yesterday on my 3 year olds asthma treatment. fuck that.
i pay $400/month for health insurance, i feel like it should work.

^I've read "scientists" are attributing the increase of asthma in people to a lack of exposure to bacteria. Our clean freak moms could be to blame. Our immune systems have kept the human species alive for 200,000 years, so it makes sense that denying it bacteria to fight, it could react negatively against good cells in your body. It's like a bored teenager waiting to rebel.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article3863223.ece

manslaughter, 1st degree. by means of assisted social anxiety and complications from asthma.

or...

unplanned teen pregnancies, had this been on the blue field.

If you have asthma then you know how much of a crock of what he's trying to say is.

I agree with you to a point, but first I am in no way a "mj hater." I spent much of my high school career being tattled on to honors teachers and school security officers by my "friends" who thought I was wasting my brain. My first year away from school, I took vacations every weekend to Eugene, OR. I never classified myself as a stoner. But just because I hate people that abuse it doesn't mean I hate the drug or necessarily casual users. [To clarify, I don't smoke anymore.]

Yes, there will always be people that abuse children and substances. My aunt has nine kids, six of whom were adopted and severely abused by their biological parents - physically, emotionally, sexually, the whole gamut. I didn't say everyone that smokes abuses children. I said it's likely that legalizing it will lead to more instances of child abuse, the warrant being that smoking mj in front of small children is a bad thing, and I think most people would agree with me.

If use is restricted to homes or "contained areas" as GH said, I believe that will only exacerbate the smoking in front of children problem. If you are proposing to legalize it completely, so that you can walk down the street smoking a joint, I am most definitely against that. I have severe asthma, and walking by someone with a lit cigarette bothers me. Marijuana, even more so.

Do I agree that smokers/stoners should be punished with jail time? Not for casual use. For growing, selling, selling to minors yeah. But do I think it should be legalized? No.

>> ^laura:
I say to people like LittleRed that right now, somewhere, someone is at home so drunk that they will not remember what they did tomorrow and abusing/neglecting small children. Someone is stone cold sober and abusing children. Someone is tipsy and playing games and having fun with their children. Right now, someone is also at home stoned, taking care of small children and relating to them on their level, having a great time. Someone out there is hormonal as hell and having a hard time taking care of their kids, being a meanie and such.

it's not legal, it's civil disobedience.

the force used here by the officer was excessive and totally ineffective at solving the "problem", in fact I bet $1000 that the next critical mass is an even bigger "illegal annoyance" to other road users, because of this video. People riding bikes do not pose a threat to anybody's life. Traffic from private cars, however, DOES.

one thing you're all forgetting is that a big aim of the protest is to reprioritise the roads in favour of pedestrians and cyclists, and improve public transport to get cars off the road. if you think that's a bad thing then good luck with your diabetes and asthma.

Fuck cars. You moan about bikes blocking the road for an hour but you say nothing about the insane amount of horrible death that results from cars.

According to Wikipedia, EIA may refer to:

* Edmonton International Airport
* Electronic Industries Alliance, a US trade organization
* Energy Information Administration, a part of the U.S. Department of Energy
* Environmental Impact Assessment, an assessment of the likely impact of a project
* Environmental Investigation Agency, a non-governmental organization
* Enzyme Immuno Assay, see ELISA
* Equine Infectious Anemia, a horse disease
* Equity-indexed annuity, a financial product
* Evergreen International Airlines, an American airline with ICAO code EIA
* Exercise-induced anaphylaxis, a medical condition
* Exercise-induced asthma, a medical condition
* External iliac artery, an artery
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EIA