You can also use gravel on potholes..and if they are really deep you don't even have to take all of the gravel back out to fill it..just enough to get a couple inches of asphalt on top to seal the water out.

If you don't seal the water out, you're just going to end up with another pothole there next year when the water gets in, freezes and busts the pothole if not more of the road apart.

So.....this bag might be good for a day or a week....but I don't see it working when people have to park on it, stop on it, or a myriad of other things.

Gravel on the other hand, you can spin some of it out of the hole but it'll do it's job for much longer than week in most circumstances...usually until they get around to patching it. Looks like shit, but so does a white plastic bag sitting in the road.

A video doesn't hold much content, when you need to know about the subject to the extent that you could predict the outcome of the test without watching the video. Nothing was shown in this that wasn't obviously clear from knowing a bit about the subject.

This is not a reliable or practical solution, as it requires force for it to have a positive affect and not all things on the road considering a pothole a hazard move fast or have the weight to generate the downward force required. i.e bicycles, slow moving cars in traffic jams, drunk people. This would only work in a few specific situations like highways from my understanding.. to which as mxxcon hit the nail on the head, asphalt is clearly more effective in a wider range of situations.

Spoco2 is spot on with given comments and the only impressive thing i saw was that the mat actually stayed there, well done mat. Well done.

I'm up-voting because BoneRemake's first comment made me laugh.. Pot-kettle-black.
(and because the mat stayed there)

Edit: also i enjoyed the article, learned a few things, cheers.

And in the long term do you think this baggy will be cheaper than 10 shovels of asphalt?
As a short term solution, if you are going to have somebody come out and deploy this bag, might as well have them come out with asphalt.

While non-Newtonian liquids become 'non-liquid' when a force is rapidly applied, they don't become solid. Putting something like this on a moderately trafficed street will result in a grove getting worked in that bag and it will probably take a few minutes for the bag to regain it's flat shape.

It's a cool solution but I don't if it's really practical or solves a problem that needed to be solved.

If I had to drive over that enough, I think I'd just put some filler between the bumps, so I could go over slow to stay on the filler strip I put in and not knock my teeth out trying to go over the bumps.

If they are cheap speed bumps done after the road was put in, you can remove them with a square shaped shovel with a good edge on the front and a little prying. If they are more expensive/substantial they are either put in when the road was and very hard to separate or tarred down.

They started putting these plastic little hard speed bumps in grocery stores people would drive through as short cuts. They are just hard pieces of plastic with 2-3 pins they hammer into the asphalt....the pins stay and the rest of the block would usually break apart in just a few months. They are terrible to drive over and tend to get caught up in the underside of cars when they were starting to fall apart....... they stopped using those completely in just a year.


And that's a really bad place for speed bumps, if it was on a wider section of road you could angle your vehicle a little so you're not hitting with two wheels at the same time and jarring the hell out of yourself. It forces you to slow down so you're not swerving all over trying to get angled up to it, but doesn't wear out your car as bad or jolt you. Im sure emergency vehicles go in the out lane when they need to go into that neighborhood.

Plenty of traffic cones once he goes for the down the street view. And one smashed flat near his car. And plenty on other side.

They put them out about 2 car lengths apart so their equipment and trucks can get into the work area when needed without mowing down a huge row of cones or dragging them into the work.

Old lady or young inexperienced person..I could see them thinking cones aren't ACTUALLY designating the work area. But dude with an expensive ass car should be old enough to realize that he shouldn't drive in the fucking work space. It's dangerous as hell to the workers in there and all that heavy equipment sitting there should be a pretty good indicator that people shouldn't be driving there if the cones don't spell it out clearly enough.

And I say this as someone whose done driveways and parking lots, but not a whole lot of street asphalt. You can put up sawhorses and barricades and if there is one space that's the size of the car despite there being NO OTHER WAY IN......someone will drive into that hole. And you can see fellow crew members walking AROUND designated areas that are marked and have "do not cross tape" around 95% of it...and someone will walk into it. And 99.999% of the time, the person not paying attention yells about suing and what not when they made the mistake often times with us yelling and waving at them to try to get them to stop.

Ever get a piece of tar stuck to your shoe on a hot day? Imagine walking into a blocked off area where the tar has been freshly poured and it varies between slippery when it's super hot and super sticky when it's cooling down. You got jokers walking into that stuff....it smells horrible...hell it even steams and bubbles at times. Then if you seal a parking lot? It's basically black paint with chemicals that react to sunlight to bake it in. We had some old ladies walk into it...FALL, get it all up and down their back from head to heel and on their hands...while people are yelling at them, waving, and people running around the workspace so they don't ruin the job we just spent 3 hours doing to stop them.

I'd say that if someone can't see clear indicators that something is up on the roadway and they should use more caution and not assume everything is the same as yesterday, they are not fit to drive. It's like seeing a bouncing ball in the street and speeding up because who would have thought a kid might be chasing that ball?

You do realize that you don't need to give them your return address right?

Besides, they get rigid envelopes all the time - the post office is set up for it - sending a rigid piece of mail isn't a crime.

>> ^Boise_Lib:

Beautiful idea, thanks Trancecoach.
But, putting asphalt roofing shingles in would be a bad idea. It's possible--and since big business owns judges, probable--that someone could get charged with a felony. Something along the lines of using the federal mail to sabotage the mail sorting machines that are used on all of those return envelopes (they may even use this tactic against wood shims). Tampering with the USPS mail is a serious crime.
Now some brave soul may be okay with Civil Disobedience that might have such consequences--but they should be aware of the potential consequences first.

Beautiful idea, thanks Trancecoach.

But, putting asphalt roofing shingles in would be a bad idea. It's possible--and since big business owns judges, probable--that someone could get charged with a felony. Something along the lines of using the federal mail to sabotage the mail sorting machines that are used on all of those return envelopes (they may even use this tactic against wood shims). Tampering with the USPS mail is a serious crime.

Now some brave soul may be okay with Civil Disobedience that might have such consequences--but they should be aware of the potential consequences first.

A US Navy report from the Naval Facilities Engineering Command published in January says that the jet efflux will “melt the top surface of asphalt pavements and is likely to spall the surface of standard concrete pavements” and that there are “no identified sealants that can survive a significant number of vertical landings”. It recommends that vertical landings are only made on specially designed continuous concrete pads (with no joints) of at least 100ft square.

A similar report published by the US Navy in November 2009 said that aircraft carrier decks will require significant strengthening to withstand the risk of buckling under the high temperatures generated by the F-35B.

http://www.airforcesmonthly.com/view_news.asp?ID=1749

hmm, Stingray may be onto something w/ the Bristol Stool SMELL Scale... how about:

1 • The ninja (no smell at all)
2 • Eau du doo (a faint, heady aroma)
3 • Fried chicken (what's cookin'?)
4 • The rotten egg (somebody light a match)
5 • The drag strip (burnt rubber / asphalt)
6 • Mustard gas (noxious, eye-watering)
7 • Hiroshima (don't even think about lighting a match)

Individual results may vary.

Looked more like Hell's Angels and Mongols vs. asphalt.

luckily asphalt has a lot of give to it...

this kind of thing is really difficult for me to watch.
I can't help but empathize with that moment of physical shock that he goes into immediately after he hits the asphalt. Beyond the physical trauma, there's also the mental and emotional impact of realizing that.. no, things won't be the same after this.

terribly sad, and I hope he's okay.

If you watch the longer version of this video...I think this guy hit hard enough to trigger his fuel shut off. They are parked there for awhile and it looks like either someone is coming up to the vehicle or someone is getting in and out of it. And the truck keeps honking on it's own...either because of some sort of fuel problem or they shook a door open.

And it looks like there's 3-4 tracks. So it's like having 3-4 really close speed bumps and they launching off one to hit the side of another with their rear tires landing in between them making it even more jarring...so they probably can't help but hit the gas when they get jarred.

If it's like the way they do rail road track around here, they put space barriers on each side of the track so there's enough for the train wheel to fit between it at the block. Then they lay the asphalt up to the block so there's not a hard corner to wear down or pop tires. So the surface of the asphalt and the surface of the track are about level but the asphalt slopes up to and away from the tracks on both sides to return to roadway grade....probably for drainage reasons. And between the tracks is usually a treated wood or concrete gap space so there's not enough gap for wheels to drop down between the tracks when crossing them.

Can't imagine people don't recognize that as a railroad crossing considering the drop down bars and the Xing markings. Plus it has to look like a massive heaving in the ground when you drive up to it.

Now that's a pretty good save. It's a good thing it was on asphalt. I'd hate to imagine how it'd go if he missed the countersteer to stop the fishtailing.

I find myself unable to process the job advertisements in a way that actually translates into tasks you would actually be performing. I don't know how many times I've heard of people talking about they applied for a job that read like they wanted an entry level person, and come to find out they ended up hiring people who were 10 and 15 years above the experience level it sounded like they were asking for.

My dad just recently got a job, the position he applied for was road maintenance.....fixing pot holes basically and then in the winter plowing snow. They sent him an offer letter, no details of actual job activities. He needed a job and he had been looked over for stuff in other jobs for not repeating himself in each category, one applicant assessor told him he should put "Asphalt" in front of "Paver Operator" because they don't know if a paver is the same as an asphalt paver...and that he should have repeated that in every section that left room for entering your own info. So after dealing with that for over a year, he took this job....thinking he's finally got something that is at least in his ballpark and they have some sort of reasonable job description where the guy isn't performing the job duties of six people. After he went through his orientation and got the gear they required him to have for safety.....he was put on a weed eater. That's all he does all day is run a weed eater.....which was never mentioned in the job description he applied for. Never mentioned in the orientation, never mentioned in the offer packet......basically just never mentioned.

So......all I have to say to that is. Employers are their own worst enemy. You get people into jobs through networking or lieing, as the process that is in place is pure deception based on both fronts. If you answer questions honestly and try not to exaggerate or guess what they want, you look like you are unqualified by a large margin. So you get people who have drastically less experience and do things that are very dangerous because they don't know know any better....because they exaggerated/lied on their applications.

It's like when I read the resumes of my highest paid friends. I know they can't do what's on their resume, I even ask them if they can. And they pretty much preface anything by saying "I could learn how to do it.".....which to me, if it's a core job task you're looking at it's an unacceptable answer. Because you don't know if you could learn it to the level you would need for that job. And that's on top of the crazy list of skills they ask for when most of them are not even slightly used by their company.

Basically they need to figure out what they actually need/want so they can find a fair market price to ballpark on their job ads.

There's still a company in my area that advertisers for a specific job all year round, and has done so for 3 years. I find it impossible that they have not filled an entry level job position adequately in 3 years with 2 universities located in the same town and a even larger universities located just an hour away. I believe they want to marginalize their staff, so they can plug anyone in at any time for as close to minimum wage as they can manage....or they are using it as a tool to say "Look we've interviewed countless individuals and we have no filled that position."