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Is this a negligent or accidental discharge of a gun?

harlequinn says...

That's not true either. Following their directions doesn't mean you won't be negligent. Not following their direction doesn't mean you are negligent. You're conflating things. Each situation needs to be judged on it's own merits.

Removing safety features is not negligence unless you make the firearm unsafe. None of my firearms have a firing pin block from the factory. They're all safe firearms. My triggers have been lightened - they're still safe firearms. I've seen triggers lightened so much that they are unsafe. As before, each instance is judged on it's own merits.

I'll soon finish my mechanical engineering degree (and don't you know it, I'm looking for a job in firearm designing), so I do know a little about this stuff. Whilst with the proper equipment you can detect crack propagation or premature wear, this is not done on consumer products like firearms. That's why I wrote "this sort of item". Unless you're going to spend more money than the firearm is worth trying to detect cracks, you won't know it has cracked until you visually identify it.

Sure proper cleaning and gun inspection is part of having a safe, well functioning firearm. But don't fool yourself into thinking it's an aeroplane or space shuttle in inspections. Go ask your local gunsmith - the best one you can find - how many times he's done x-ray diffraction on a firearm for preventative maintenance. Chances are he's going to say zero.

Spend 5 seconds on google and I know you will find multiple videos of factory condition firearms discharging unintentionally. You'll also find recall information affecting millions of firearms - firearms at risk of unintentional discharge.

I should have qualified "much". More or less than 2500 rounds a year?

newtboy said:

You're only obliged to follow directions if you don't want to be negligent.
No injury does not mean no negligence. Not following safety instructions is negligent, as is removing safety features, why you do it or the fact that others are also negligent does not erase the negligence.
You can certainly identify wear patterns and or cracks before this type of discharge occurs in 99.9999999% of cases. Proper cleaning and inspections are part of gun safety.
Not lately, but in the past, yes. I've never seen an unmodified gun fire unintentionally, but I have seen poorly modified guns 'misfire' on many occasions.

Slavoj Zizek: PC is a more dangerous form of totalitarianism

vil says...

Slavoj has more experience with oppressive regimes. Effective oppressive regimes let "ordinary people" do most of the oppressing. Much more zealous than any government agency can be. For any "good citizen" it is enough to know what the party line is and that one must not deviate.

Perhaps vaping sections on aeroplanes (I hate people vaping in my vicinity) or semi-secret performances of smoking operas (for people who like those) would make the world less oppressive for some people without sacrificing too much selfrighteous ego. Perhaps the selfrighteous ego is just too strong.

A ban on smoking in pubs has just been passed over here. Again, I am fine with that in the pubs I go to, however there are pubs in small villages out in the country where only smokers ever go and all they do is drink and smoke. Will they have to meet elsewhere, rename the pub to a "smoking club" or just become underground smokers against the establishment?

My favourite Yugoslav joke is BTW Q: What is the national record for the 100 meter sprint in Montenegro?

A: 80 metres.

ChaosEngine said:

Did the government step in and force them to do this? Nope, they made the decision themselves.

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Siryan IL-76TD INSANE TAKE-OFF Moscow-Vnukovo

oritteropo says...

It's not about being a pilot, the IL-76D is just a huge and great sounding aircraft. The actual takeoff looked fairly normal (for a monster Russian aeroplane).

Janus said:

Not being a pilot here, can someone explain what was insane about that take-off? The only thing I can figure is maybe a strong headwind, but I don't know.

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The Cornfield Bomber - Yesterday's Air Force

oritteropo says...

It's probably better to design aeroplanes that are a little less prone to getting into an unrecoverable flat spin situation in the first place, which was the approach taken by the USAF .

kceaton1 said:

BTW, somebody mentioned to me that the plane more than likely was helped out by the counter-action of the *kick* it would have received when the pilot ejected from the cockpit. I fully agree with this and it was something I initially missed for a bit.

So, instead--using what I said; do the same thing, but add a countermeasure device on the topside that "fires" off --exactly like a pilot ejecting--though it may need a tad more force, since the pilot is still in the plane--and perhaps everything will work out.

We can all have our pipe-dreams...

Accidental take-off of Victor - Bob Prothero explains

oritteropo says...

Check out the roughly contemporary British civilian aeroplane the de Havilland Comet, too. I don't know of any link between the two, but they both feature engines much more set into the wings than U.S. designed aircraft, and both look much more futuristic than many later designs.

NaMeCaF said:

That is a cool looking plane. I've never seen or heard of it before. Looks like something out of a Sci-Fi movie.

Made several mistakes and still survived this crash landing

oritteropo says...

In the comments, the pilot says that he chose the landing zone with the least obstructions. He also said the aeroplane only had minor damage to the leading edge of the wings, and was flying again three weeks later.

Skydiving Altitude Awareness Fail, Double Cypres Fire

oritteropo says...

They do exist, although these guys didn't have them, so the problem can't be insurmountable.

I remain unconvinced about the very idea of abandoning, in mid air, an aeroplane that's working perfectly well.

00Scud00 said:

True, although I wonder how loud it would have to be? Falling like that must be noisy.

Skydiving Altitude Awareness Fail, Double Cypres Fire

Derren Brown Infamous

lucky760 says...

Love Derren Brown. This was by far the tamest of anything I've ever seen of his. (By that I mean lacking any real excitement. I kept waiting for something big.)

I didn't care about the fake surgery stuff. Lame, but just making a point about how fake it is and trying to have something to excite the overly sensitive. Whatevs.

I imagine the fake contacting dead relatives thing was maybe using things like a lot of YouTubers have done and just searched for people on social media who share their profile publicly. Easy enough to find people who are tweeting/facebooking/instagramming about going to a Derren Brown show then searching through their past posts to dig up good dirt about people who passed. If that's not along the lines of what he did, then I'd really like to hear some possible alternate methods.

Really no idea about how he did the invisible "aeroplane" trick.

Loved the finale and really have no clue how that was done either.

And if he didn't somehow force the dice, either he really did memorize those books with his dickbrain (I bet the boys in school gave him that name for a different reason - teehee) or the guy was a stooge and lying about what he was reading. Why wasn't there a camera there to show what he was seeing in the books?

Pre-set Rubik's cubes? Whe didn't we get a look at them before he "solved" it and while solving it, why was his back away from the audience and cameras?

Sea Plane Takes Off From Truck Trailer

AeroMobil 2.5 -- a flying car

oritteropo says...

The problem with every attempt so far is that the tradeoffs involved end up giving you a car that isn't a very good car, and an aeroplane that isn't a very good aeroplane.

The more recent attempts do seem to be getting better though.

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"Desert Breath" | Land Art Installation | By D.A.ST. Arteam



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