>> ^Jackal:
I think the comment of "Die in a fire, Bitch" is pretty ironic, especially considering the follow-up of defending the comment in the name of humor.

I would also like to point out, I am not a pundit. While I can understand the irony of joking about her dying in a fire, the reality is her words carry more weight.

Do you think the ignorant people shown in the West Virginia video come to their conclusions entirely on their own? Maybe Fox News, and it's speakers, have had some part to play in the delivery of such ignorance with comments such as Osama-er-Obama. I would suggest that it's for those reasons "Die in a fire, bitch" is perhaps slightly more tolerable as a joke.

no longer dead, but it pissed me off FOX claimed copyright on a 6 second clip! what happened to fair use?!

anyway thanks its fixed now

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I don't want to do this... But I have no choice... *dead

>> ^E_Nygma:
>> ^Crosswords:
First of all I'd like to say West Virginia is not part of the south, so please don't pin them on us .

they're part of the west, right?


We don't want them either.

>> ^SaNdMaN:
I don't remember this. What episode is it from?


First episode of season 5 called "Stewie Loves Lois".

>> ^Names:
Somebody needs to go look up the word "theocracy". The governing church in an American theocracy would be who, the Western Branch of American Reform Presbylutheranism?


Theocracy is a government ruled by or subject to religious authority. Nothing about that definition requires choosing a specific sect of Christianity.

The USA has:
1. "In god we trust" on the currency
2. "under god" in the pledge of allegiance
3. Government-funded monotheistic prayers before every session of congress
4. Monotheistic oaths of office ("so help me god")
5. The declaration "god save the united states and this honorable court" before every session of the supreme court
6. Monotheistic oaths in court administered with a Bible.
7. Government-funded christmas decorations.
8. Government-funded stone engravings of the ten commandments displayed prominently in government buildings.
9. Zero openly atheist people in national elected offices because of bigotry and dispite the fact that American atheists are similar in number to African Americans.
10. Candidates who feel the need to wear their religion on their sleeve to get elected.
11. Rednecks who think this is a "Christian Nation" and atheists should GTFO.
12. Government funding for religious organizations to "rehabilitate" criminals by brainwashing them with right-wing fundamentalist Christianity.
13. A sitting president who said atheists are neither citizens nor patriots
14. Preachers who control how millions of people vote

West Virginia isn't a very big state, so losing it by such a large margin wasn't much of an issue. And it's pretty much entirely made up of the sort of people that wouldn't vote for Obama, so, not exactly a big surprise, either.

BillO is referring to the fact that Clinton "won" Florida and Michigan, because the other Democrats did not campaign in those states, and Obama wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan. And this was because the states broke the rules by having their primaries too early in the election, and so their delegates were taken away from them.

Anyway, so, Clinton 'won' those states. And so lately, since the only way for her to possibly get the nomination now is for those votes to count, that's what everyone is harping on.

I'm really hoping those networks scraped the bottom of the West Virginia barrel to find those interviewees...

LOL - yup, you not going to show it some huggy upvote?

In reply to this comment by AceOfKidneys:
great sift, well done on all accounts, great title, great vid, and psychotic pathological though process!

In reply to this comment by SaNdMaN:
I don't remember this. What episode is it from?

Family Guy Season 6 "Stewie Loves Lois"



I was going to look through but you dont have any unsifted videos at the moment, oh well, i'll check back later

Have you seen Familiy Guy Season 6?

Oh alright, cool I'll try it out next time

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>> ^Krupo:
OMG yes - they're not region blocking my hotel!
Or is general regionblocking off? I'm guessing it's the latter, but whatever. Time to watch all the clips I haven't had a chance to watch!
Um, election08. Love the tip-toeing around the "aversion." Whoa-ho. ouch.
Oh, the douce-off was an all-time classic.


Somebody should tell oxdottir!

>> drattus:
It's certainly not my personal preference for a Clinton vice presidency.

My point about consensus is more this; for those of us who are supporting Obama, painting the bulk of a voting population of a given state in a negative light, (even states that can be expected to be solidly McCain's in November) isn't in our best interest. While we might safely prognosticate that West Virginia is a lost cause for the Democrats in November, alienating voters there who might become Obama supporters after the convention is foolish. We want every vote we can get. People have families and friends. Those relationships do cross state lines.

You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. Ridiculing and shaming people who disagree with our preference of candidate isn't a good strategy for winning.

As the Obama campaign's general election strategy has begun taking shape, we've seen that the impressive 'National Voter Registration & Mobilization Drive' operation, 'Vote for Change', is operating in all 50 states, not just those states that are widely anticipated to be blue states and battleground states come November.

I understand being angry and disgusted at the ignorance and racism displayed in this video that exists in WV and elsewhere. It upsets me as well. It's just my silly little hope that more people will look at the bigger picture. But then I'm a dreamer.

>> ^quantumushroom:
Democrat paradox? "Vote for Obama because he's Black."


Hillary lead Obama even among black voters in most of the leadup to the campaign, it was only when the "fantasy" and other comments were made in South Carolina early on in this thing that people started to turn to Obama. I doubt that's when they first noticed he was black. Personally I saw little difference between the two until after the race was on so I didn't much like either, what made my choice was pretty simple. I'll offer you the words of a Conservative icon for why.

The Democrats have firm principled beliefs. What motivates most Republican leaders? Nothing except a craving for power. What do Republicans offer voters? Nothing except “Elect us because we’re not Democrats.”

That's a quote from a recent article written by the man known as the "funding father" of conservative causes and one of the biggest movers behind repub mass mail efforts, he and those like him fed and grew the party over recent years. I don't really agree that dems have firm, principled beliefs, but they do talk them. Now if only they'd vote that way too I might start to believe it. It's the public impression these days though.

http://ultimatejohnmccain.com/blog_post/show/17?eid=35f115ef74d62ec3303825bab766831c

The reason Barrack is doing better than her is the same reason dems in general are doing better than repubs these days. Hillary decided to campaign as if she were the repub and Obama the dem and she did it in the Democratic primary. The nation as a whole has turned away from that type of politics, she was 5 or 10 years too late for that type of strat to work like she wanted it to and just didn't notice that the nation was changing under her. Not quite ready on day one this time.

If she had campaigned with some class instead of aggression she'd have had the nomination handed to her on a platter and Obama would be the VP maybe, instead we heard insults about him from day one and claims about "ready on day one" she couldn't live up to about her. Built up those expectations herself then didn't live up to it. She threw it away, nobody took it from her.

>> ^Zonbie:
Its really annoys me when you hear people saying they will vote for McCain instead of ther Democratic Nominee because "He is Muslim"

It annoys me even more that the retort to this statement is "That's not true! He's Protestant!" rather than "So what if he was?". I don't give a shit if he's Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Zoroastrian, Wiccan, Satanist, Hindu or atheist. If he has a 3-digit IQ and cares about the country, it's already a big step in the right direction.

if u havent already watch http://www.videosift.com/video/Obama-faces-racism-in-West-Virginia

Tragic.