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bareboards2 says...

As for hearing the whooping differently than did @00Scu00, I immediately thought of this tweet that is making the rounds of women's Facebook walls. Written by a man:

"Conversation with female friends about dating.

I said I liked dating, even bad dates, because dating can be a kind of adventure. Worst case, you learn something about yourself.

Female friend something like, "No, worst case is I'm raped and killed."

That's when I got it."

That whooping didn't sound like relieved whooping to me. It sounded sounded scary to me. Because of this tweet, what this tweet is saying.

Because most men don't get it. That whooping is proof.

We hear with different ears, men and women. Because we have different experiences and have different fears. Real fears.

And we would really, really like to feel like the vast majority of men are our allies and "get it," as this tweeting guy finally got it.

(You think I agree with every single word written by every single woman? Let me assure you that I don't. As if that even needs saying.)

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How one tweet can ruin your life - Jon Ronson

Jinx says...

Right. So the virtual lynchmob is ok because... worse things happen to other people?

What.

Dunno. Not sure how suggesting a woman should be raped because she tweeted a poor joke is in any way making up for Emmett Till. I mean, I made sure I was born of white parents in an affluent country so I guess this is a level of privilege that I will never be able to atone for... but if I tweeted at more white woman that I hope they gets aids do you think that would like, help my case at all?

C-note said:

So you are implying profiting off racism and racists is racist. That is an interesting opinion.
In america there is a well documented history of what happens to any black person caught demeaning whites in any minor way.

Losing a job,
http://www.theroot.com/tenn-man-says-that-he-was-fired-from-job-after-choose-1819325920

job prospects for life,
https://www.si.com/nfl/video/2017/08/28/mmqb-fan-poll-why-colin-kaepernick-still-unemployed

or their Life...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till
https://lynchinginamerica.eji.org/

...is the normal consequence for blacks and people of color in america.

Social media has introduced consequences to groups of individuals who historically have not had to deal with it.

How one tweet can ruin your life - Jon Ronson

bcglorf says...

The point
Your head

And I don't believe for a moment that you really are missing the point.

The victim in the video made a tweet that sounds racist, but was meant in a sarcastic manner to be making fun of the stupid things racists say.

Your own comment you've made before is the same thing, saying profiting of racism is AOK, in a sarcastic way to be making fun of the stupid things racists do:
Once you learn to profit from racism then BS like this doesn't bother you. In fact you begin to appreciate all the hard free labor that keeps the dividends flowing

You weren't really advocating for enjoying the free labor and profits of racism, you were making fun of it. The victim you are so quick to run a bus over and see ruined made the same joke as you did, but you still fail to see any irony or double standard in this.

And 1 sentence to refute your off-topic rant. Apparently newtboy and I differ from you in believing the historic racism and prejudices were BAD and should be ended rather than recycled against a new range of victims.

C-note said:

So you are implying profiting off racism and racists is racist. That is an interesting opinion.
In america there is a well documented history of what happens to any black person caught demeaning whites in any minor way.

Losing a job,
http://www.theroot.com/tenn-man-says-that-he-was-fired-from-job-after-choose-1819325920

job prospects for life,
https://www.si.com/nfl/video/2017/08/28/mmqb-fan-poll-why-colin-kaepernick-still-unemployed

or their Life...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till
https://lynchinginamerica.eji.org/

...is the normal consequence for blacks and people of color in america.

Social media has introduced consequences to groups of individuals who historically have not had to deal with it.

How one tweet can ruin your life - Jon Ronson

C-note says...

I understand that trying to duck, dodge and otherwise change the topic is maybe the best defense you can come up with, but I'm not biting either. You may want to consider if you're the one that should give an inch on occasion and not just support the 'monsters' you've defended for their single racist tweet.

bcglorf said:

Focus.

You callously said the victim 'only' lost their job, and then posted a link that can only be read as implying the victim truly is filled with a hateful ideology that they should be repenting of.

I understand that trying to duck, dodge and otherwise change the topic is maybe the best defense you can come up with, but I'm not biting. You may want to consider if you're the one that should give an inch on occasion and not just the 'monsters' you've identified off a single tweet.

How one tweet can ruin your life - Jon Ronson

bcglorf says...

Focus.

You callously said the victim 'only' lost their job, and then posted a link that can only be read as implying the victim truly is filled with a hateful ideology that they should be repenting of.

I understand that trying to duck, dodge and otherwise change the topic is maybe the best defense you can come up with, but I'm not biting. You may want to consider if you're the one that should give an inch on occasion and not just the 'monsters' you've identified off a single tweet.

C-note said:

Never having to fear financial disruption due to an opinion does afford one a sense of liberty. No company is going to fire your shares and stop sending dividends.

jon's clever attempt to sway public opinion on a fools tweet lines his pockets with book royalties and speaking fees. He's profiting from a special kind of sinister back door racism. It enriches him financially and psychologically with the praises from the suckers who are being told to all go buy his book.

The very thought of being embarrassed or shamed by profiting from racism in a country built by slaves is truly hilarious. No matter if you stand or take a knee all are paying rent or interest.

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How one tweet can ruin your life - Jon Ronson

C-note says...

Never having to fear financial disruption due to an opinion does afford one a sense of liberty. No company is going to fire your shares and stop sending dividends.

jon's clever attempt to sway public opinion on a fools tweet lines his pockets with book royalties and speaking fees. He's profiting from a special kind of sinister back door racism. It enriches him financially and psychologically with the praises from the suckers who are being told to all go buy his book.

The very thought of being embarrassed or shamed by profiting from racism in a country built by slaves is truly hilarious. No matter if you stand or take a knee all are paying rent or interest.

How one tweet can ruin your life - Jon Ronson

ulysses1904 says...

Makes me think of the guy who videotaped the woman at the Chick-Fil-A drive thru, figuring he would be lauded as a hero for challenging someone who worked for that company. And it backfired and he became unemployed because of his "principles", which was pretty much what he expected of that woman. And then he played the victim. But he brought it on himself, the woman who tweeted about AIDS in Africa is a whole other story.

Now that everyone has the power to self-publish and broadcast just about anything to the entire world I'm seeing the power that it unleashes in others. I posted a comment on an unsolicited news posting in my FB feed, regarding the Pulitzer Prize picture of the black woman holding out her hands to be handcuffed by the police in riot gear. And everyone in the comment section is going predictably teary-eyed and goose pimply over it, with the usual cliches of iconic, defining, inspiring, uplifting, etc.

And I wrote "don't be so easily manipulated, it's stagey and predictable and Kardashians use this shit to sell sugar water." or something like that. My point being that we have gone from prize-winning pictures of the Viet Nam war (e.g.) to the whole process being co-opted by pop culture, like everything and anything else. Of course I got bombarded with claims of racism and people who pitied my soul. And some were musing on whether to try to track down my employer. I deleted my comment, this world has gotten too fucking weird for me.

How one tweet can ruin your life - Jon Ronson

bcglorf says...

That's some cold hearted malice right there.

You start pointing out that the victim described "only lost their job", and then you go on with this little link providing the suggestion that she really was guilty of holding to a hate filled ideology.

All this based on a single tweet in which she was actually making fun of those people holding to hate filled ideologies.

Kind of like when you posted:
"Once you learn to profit from racism then BS like this doesn't bother you. In fact you begin to appreciate all the hard free labor that keeps the dividends flowing."

Imagine if you lost your job because a million folks on the internet all took that as straight faced support for profitting off racism and not the obvious jab at it that it is.

C-note said:

There is Life After Hate.

https://www.lifeafterhate.org/

How one tweet can ruin your life - Jon Ronson

C-note says...

Everything in life has a price. Her tweet did not ruin her life it only cost her job. There have been many others who's comments have cost them far more then she has paid.



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