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Israeli Cyberattack Explodes Pagers Across Lebanon

newtboy says...

It is a very safe assumption, I’ll apologize to umption if it turns out to be wrong.

“From all appearances”?
That’s a big assumption, and doesn’t match what I’ve seen, at least some were sold to the public including children….and all were detonated in public which means the collateral victims are 100% random. Even if they were first sold only to Hezbollah, another assumption, many definitely made it into the secondary resale market, which was 100% guaranteed from the start.
How many random bombs mailed/sold around the country by another country are OK? 10? 100? 1000? There may have been tens of thousands of devices spread around the country.

I do not acknowledge this was targeted or selective, the methodology makes that impossible and the mere suggestion ridiculous. “Those in close proximity” to the randomly distributed bombs exploded in public, or in buildings that burned from the devices, or accidents with victims that were driving, etc…. are random innocent victims even if you assume (with no basis or rationality) that the devises were miraculously only in Hezbollah hands and decide that targeting them for terroristic bombings is somehow acceptable.

Israel has a long history of ignoring the massive collateral damage of tens of thousands of innocent victims, mainly children, they intentionally cause by targeting their “enemies” when they can do the most collateral damage consistently, despite having the technology and capacity to do surgical attacks with minimal risk, and are this genocidally barbarous when defending themselves from mostly rock throwing children and fireworks and an occasional gunshot on a damage/death scale <1% what Israel returns.

This act again makes the Israeli government a terrorist government, this was a massive terrorist bombing, no matter what the objective, and likely another war crime. We should in no way be supporting or defending a terrorist nation that is under legitimate criminal accusations of war crimes from international courts. It’s not difficult.

bcglorf said:

Alot of assumptions there though...

First that it even was Israel. Which seems a reasonable assumption though.

My big difference with you though is around being untargeted. From all appearances the affected devices appear to have been almost entirely in the hands of Hezbollah members. That makes the better assumption that Israel(or whomever is responsible) actually was able to distribute the devices directly to Hezbollah itself for internal distribution.

Say what you will about the attack, but 'untargeted' seems a poor descriptor. Heck, even carefully planned out sniper operations on the same number of enemy operatives would likely have a higher collateral casualty count. At least acknowledge this attack, for everything else that it is, was highly selective of Hezbollah members and those within an extremely close proximity of them.

Gardens of Stone!

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

BTW you anti American moron.
You got suckered into spreading Russian lies again.
The stupid race baiting video you graffitied my profile with was another lie, an American citizen having a psychotic break and killing a cat who was not in Springfield, not a Haitian in Springfield eating cats like you claimed.

Another lie spread by the idiot that believes and spreads every single lie he’s told but absolutely never admits anything, much less every single thing he believes is a blatant lie.

This makes false racist accusation 317 you have attempted to spread that I have thoroughly debunked, you lying racist piece of shit.

Yes, this IS another Russian lie you are spreading. Blatant overt racism meant to divide between rational reasonable people and irate idiot racists…guess which side you chose. Many of the bomb threats and constant calls to police are coming from one foreign country…guess which one.

The Republican campaign is purely divisive, has no solutions only scapegoats to target, has been unambiguous that they will create and spread false stories (like pet eating by migrants) to get their messages out and will ignore the damage and danger it causes (like bomb, gun, and death threats, physical attacks, and terrorism of entire communities), they support and encourage political violence at every turn then cry a River when there’s the tiniest bit of blowback like when one of your own nutjobs turns on you.
The reason it is so divisive, outrageous, racist, sexist, etc. is that this gets clicks and views and reports and distracts the news cycle from going over his record of economic collapse, health crises, job losses, division, failed trade wars, failed border policy, failed drug policy, forgotten infrastructure policy, all of 2020…honestly any of his policies…notice he doesn’t talk policy EVER. There’s good reason.

😂 just too fucking hilarious to miss….maga celebrities are begging people to stop listening to celebrities about politics! 😂

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Vance publicly outlined the Trump plan for Ukraine….just walk away.
Let Russia keep all territory they invaded and all people they kidnapped, hand back all Russian territories Ukraine currently holds for no concessions, agree Ukraine will never join the EU or NATO, and NATO countries de escalate their militaries away from their own borders with Russia (preparations for the next annexation)….also known as 100% unconditional surrender. That’s how Trump would end the Ukraine war…just like he did in Afghanistan, surrender to the weaker opponent and hand them everything.

Also….

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy jokingly says...

Every stupid baseless accusation being an admission, Vance just admitted he eats dogs and cats.

ER MER GERD! The Russian assets outed last week by the DOJ indictments like your favorite source for so much MAGA (mis)information, Tim Pool, on Putin’s payroll for $100000 a WEEK, and was adamant that Ukraine was our worst enemy and we needed to halt ALL support and apologize to Russia who is winning the war have flipped 180 degrees (now that the paychecks stopped) and insists upon reflection he realizes Ukraine is our best ally and Russia our biggest enemy and we need to immediately send billions more in aid to Ukraine.
Yes, I know exposing the sources for your misinformation as pure Russian plants paid to disrupt and harm America that flip their position around completely when caught working for Russia won’t make a whit of difference in your mind, facts are for liberals so you aren’t having any. You will continue to believe the propaganda while disavowing the propagandists that are now finally being “honest” (but are still uninformed and delusional).

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

😂All 100% verified by multiple sources, including the campaign itself you idiot.😂
I’ll guess you dispute the worst fact given, the violent desecration of Arlington by the felon.
They posted the tic tok video and photos of the team taking unauthorized photos and videos of the felon thumbs upping graves and ceremonies in violation of federal law and common decency, using dead soldiers as political props.
Yet again you fall for baseless stupidity posted by failed brainless idiots posting nonsense online from mommy’s basement.
Trump’s team physically pushed past the female guard (who has received death threats despite not pressing charges, just for speaking up) after ignoring the clear long standing rules/laws that were repeatedly explained to them because they couldn’t understand it wasn’t ok to shoot a tv commercial in Arlington…or anything political.
What he took were political photos and a political video almost instantly posted by the campaign, taken by photographers and videographers hired by the campaign that were not allowed at the event but with the felon’s violent team’s help forced their way into a sacred ceremony in the special area where only official Arlington videographers and photographers are allowed to film at all BY FEDERAL LAW.
Multiple gold star families have publicly complained about the desecration of their family’s graves when the felon abused staff and violated laws to use them as unwitting political props in political propaganda.
BTW- this was not the first time he has used Arlington, and area 60 itself, as a backdrop for political photos, nor the first time it was a scandal. He absolutely 100% knew it was wrong and illegal, he simply doesn’t care and neither do you.
Trump has zero respect for the military, always has since cowardly buying a 100% fraudulent deferment and sending others to fight in his stead that didn’t stop him from dancing and little girl screwing through the Vietnam war era. He thinks the military are suckers and losers. It shocks no one his team disrespected Arlington and the heroes buried there by using it as a backdrop for a political ad and political photos where he thumbs ups a fallen soldiers grave.

Bidenomics is absolutely great for America, better recovery from a worse covid response and worse economic collapse than any other large economy in the world, not so great for Russia or traitors, figures you hate it. You bought Tesla at $400. I bet you have some DJT too. People not invested in stupid maga bullshit are making bank…markets are consistently hitting record highs, companies are raking in record profits (accounting for a huge/majority percentage of “inflation”)…I made >6% in the last 2 months alone.

My team can speak English and count…yours can do neither. You can’t show one time I failed to give the verifiable facts, nor a single time you presented any.

Too bad all you can do post and repost other morons lying about everything under the sun. Always idiotic nonsense, no exception this time.
Really, an instantly corrected on the spot misstatement from memory about precisely which military honorariums Harris attended 3+ years ago is the best you’ve got to show some media bias? Nobody is going to pay $787 million over that, sucker! Donny beats that “lie” daily before he wakes up.

Here’s Harris paying homage to those fallen soldiers at Arlington like you say she didn’t…you probably didn’t know because she and Biden didn’t use the multiple solemn events as political opportunities, didn’t create campaign commercials there, didn’t create a scandal by assaulting guards and violating the law, civility, and decorum, and were actually there for the soldiers and their families not themselves and their campaigns.

Notice the lack of idiots everywhere filming with phones and professional video cameras and no happy thumbs up, just the one official shot by the Arlington videographer and deep respect being shown.


Last night the felon directly and unequivocally admitted on Fox that he interfered in the 2020 election…probably not good for his election interference cases.
He’s also holding “The Treasonies” an awards ceremony/fundraiser for the Jan 6 insurrectionists (likely another felony since he is barred nationwide from having any involvement in any charity)…probably not good for his Jan 6 cases, definitely doesn’t put distance between him and the mob he directed.

bobknight33 said:

Yet again you fell for the fake news.
Just like you think Bidenomics is great for Americans.. NOT!

Me 5 you 100000 fails.
You on the wrong team.

‘I believe any idiotic thing they tell me’

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Bidenomics saved America from the disaster that was 2020 and before. His worst economic numbers were better than the last guys best. He kept unemployment at a record low for most of his term, and it’s still lower than under the felon who lost almost 3 million jobs and near a million small businesses. 4.2% is pretty much the Goldilocks number, btw. A healthy unemployment is between 3%-5% with around 4% being preferred. 😂
The trade deficit he insisted would be his crown jewel and would turn to below zero instead went UP by 36.3% from 2016 to 2020 despite his trade wars and hundreds of billions paid by American consumers in tariffs and more in subsidies to American producers.
“Illegal immigration” increased 15% under the felon.
Economic growth was a NEGATIVE 2.2% under the felon.
The crime and murder rates rose faster than ever in history under the felon, and are down over 25% under Biden.

And don’t forget Biden just got his 70th political prisoner released including 2 taken by Russia during the last administration without paying a dime or removing sanctions or handing over Ukraine and got 2 prisoners for each criminal we released, unlike the last administration that only got 50 something released, paid cash, removed sanctions, and always got the short end of the deal, once releasing 5000 Taliban for nothing but an agreement they wouldn’t attack us if we left fast. The contrast is stark.

You are such a delusional tool, constantly regurgitating the lies you ate hook line and sinker…like your last post of an adult only closed event you claimed was happening right in front of children.
No surprise you won’t admit it….again. You never can, you have no spine, zero testicular fortitude, zero honor, zero honesty….you are an infant whining in his full diaper screaming that he didn’t poop in them. I’m done listening. I bet your family is too.
The felon has lost, his racism and sexism are on full display, his complete lack of self control is too. His vp is the biggest loser ever, worse than Palin and that’s not an exaggeration (his favorability rating started at -6 and has plunged to a disastrous -15%! The average favorability rating is +19%. The campaign is now at around -9%), and his project 2025 that he supported and praised since 2022 is an anchor he cannot escape. Even Fox polls have her up by as much as 10% and she hasn’t chosen her vp…she’s at a 50%favorable 46%unfavorable (+4%) now, Butigieg could get her to 75% favorability. Good job morons, you couldn’t keep your fascist dictatorial plans to yourselves and now no one believes you about anything but your fascism.
The felon won’t get to use the presidency to escape his vast array of crimes like he planned, and will end his days in Ryker’s Island.

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Zelensky Celebrates Signing Security Agreement With The US

newtboy says...

So moron, Russia just conceded defeat in the Black Sea and their entire naval fleet has left Crimea and has retreated to their farthest Eastern port in the Black Sea.
Ukraine doesn’t even have a navy.

Sorry comrade, Putin’s fascist war is losing….bigly.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-says-russias-last-naval-patrol-ship-leaving-crimea-2024-07-15/#:~:text=July%2015%20(Reuters)%20%2D%20Ukra
ine's,as%20it%20battles%20Russian%20invasion.

bobknight33 said:

Christ your are stupid.

If Russia is Losing as you say, Why are they gaining territory and holding it?

You do know what a map is?

If Russia is losing as you say, Why hasn't Ukraine pushed back the Russians?

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Zelensky Celebrates Signing Security Agreement With The US

newtboy says...

So…have you tried looking at that map? Have you compared it with a map from say 18 months ago? Notice how much territory Russia no longer holds?

Notice that the front has expanded deep inside Russia? Kursk and Belgorod are being destroyed. A massive ammo dump was destroyed there yesterday, and Russia is desperate for ammunition.

Notice the mass surrender of 400 hardened troops at once last week in Vovchansk, and near the same over a week in Kharkiv? Sure sounds like Losing to me.

The Black fleet is decimated and stuck in harbor. The tank force has no next gen tanks left, only WW2 and Afghanistan leftovers being refurbished. Russian troops are actually driving golf carts at the front. Ukraine has M1 Abrams, Tigers, and many other new next gen tanks being delivered constantly, and a few squadrons of F-16s coming.
The airport the Russians were using for unmanned attacks in Ukraine was destroyed yesterday along with numerous next gen unmanned aircraft.
Crimea is under constant bombardment, and Russia’s attempts to intercept missiles has them falling on beach crowds as well as the military targets and ports, losing Russia the backing of the people who don’t like being made into human shields. The Kerch bridge is completely closed trapping the invading Russian citizens in the war zone.
Enjoy Vlad.

bobknight33 said:

If Russia is Losing as you say, Why are they gaining territory and holding it?

You do know what a map is?

If Russia is losing as you say, Why hasn't Ukraine pushed back the Russians?

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Reminder, Don’s beloved grandfather was arrested for being a KKK leader who attacked police in NY trying to start a race war.
Don and his father willingly paid millions in the 80s for refusing to rent to black families, paid the fine but continued to redline at their properties.
Don then pretended he didn’t know what the KKK was or who David Duke is and happily accepted their endorsement, and has NEVER said he doesn’t want racists in his party or it’s leadership, indeed he promotes based on intolerance.

The democrats do not tolerate racism in their ranks.

To your ilk, nothing at all is racist except pointing out blatant racism….then that’s racist.

bobknight33 said:

Lets see White guy hires 10 black guys and that is racist?


Democrats are the racist because everything to them are racist.

Zelensky Celebrates Signing Security Agreement With The US

newtboy says...

Once again, your grasp of the English language tends to point to who is really stupid here. “Your are stupid”? So close…keep trying, you’ll pass first grade English some day. 😂 😂 😂

They aren’t gaining territory…not for a while. You are over a year behind, and were never right on the facts.

Russia is trying to get Ukraine to agree to the current frontline as the permanent border…they wouldn’t be doing that if they were gaining ground. Ukraine says absolutely not…they wouldn’t be so quick to say no if they were losing territory still.

Russia has made no significant progress since last years Ukrainian counter offensive that granted wasn’t a total success but did drive Russia out of territory they had held…learn to read. Russia now holds approximately 20% of Ukraine, a serious shrinking from the maximum seized territory.
They are being pushed back or at worst held in place by a force that is essentially unarmed (after maggots blocked aid) and under 10% in numbers…and we just rearmed them.
Russia is losing territory they stole, slowly but they are losing. Their spring offensive was not very successful (but was costly) and when the squadrons of F-16s start flying and M1-Abrams start rolling they will be destroyed, they cannot defend against them.
They are now completely insecure in Crimea and may lose it, cannot sail the Black Sea fleet (they are hiding their best ships in Cuba!), and does not have an air force that can compete with F-16s. They are also enjoying attacks deep into the mother country with multiple groups of saboteurs in the country doing major damage daily.
The Russian people no longer support the war, and know the reasons for it were outright lies. The economy is non existent, banks closed, stock market offline, their sons are all dead, injured, in Ukraine, or on the run, their military is completely decimated, their oil infrastructure is being destroyed…and no one is coming to rebuild them , they will remain global pariahs for decades to come. North Korea is supplying their ammunition, and it’s so bad that it is more dangerous for the Russians than the Ukrainians. China and N Korea aren’t going to help rebuild the Russian economy, they can’t. Europe and the US are going to rebuild Ukraine. It will be the shining star of Eurasia.
Ukraine may expand into Russia soon. It’s incredibly likely they will take Crimea back.
Russia overplayed its hand and is so screwed it may actually fold as a country SOON, it has destroyed itself and now that we are actually backing Ukraine (not piecemeal drippings blocked by MAGA every time they can cause damage and help Russia) they have lost, they just won’t admit it yet (kinda like you)….who is surprised you believe they are “WINNING”? They’re “winning” about as much as the convicted felon and rapist has been since November 2020….which is not at all. The tiny temporary territory gains they’ve made this month were so costly they aren’t “wins”. If it costs you 20000 troops and 4 armored divisions to take a town that’s now rubble, and your enemy held you back for months and only lost 1000 troops…. you lost.

bobknight33 said:

Christ your are stupid.

If Russia is Losing as you say, Why are they gaining territory and holding it?

You do know what a map is?

If Russia is losing as you say, Why hasn't Ukraine pushed back the Russians?

Zelensky Celebrates Signing Security Agreement With The US

newtboy says...

Hilariously clueless.
Russia is losing a war they’ve been fighting by choice since 2014, and has destroyed itself, an entire generation, it’s military, it’s economy, it’s fight against NATO and EU expansion, it’s blossoming commercial relationship with the US and the west, and it’s position on the world stage over a desire to rebuild the USSR and an invasion based on the absolutely ridiculous lie that a Jewish comedian/president has turned an entire country of peaceful Democratic Ukrainians into a war bent nation of rabid bloodthirsty Nazis with biological weapons factories on the border ready to strike mother Russia overnight. It is asinine, and no surprise you repeat it.
After Biden’s new treaty announced today, Ukrainian military superiority is assured (they were winning already using RC boats and planes, how do you think they’ll do with F-16 squadrons and Patriot missile systems?).
😂 As if they did it just to make you look silly, Russian state tv announced today that it is so dire that banks have actually stopped allowing any withdrawals, and Russian stock markets collapsed and went offline after announcing they would no longer trade with dollars or euros!

Russia is winning? ARE YOU KIDDING!?! Russia is COLLAPSING!! 😂

BTW-Russia was a party to the trilateral agreement that by treaty secured Ukraine’s borders against all incursions. They not only chose to invade purely by choice, it was a clear violation of the anti nuclear proliferation agreement and in fact (by some interpretations) gives Ukraine the legal right to respond with nuclear weapons….if only they still had any, but they gave them all up voluntarily for those exact assurances from Russia and ourselves to protect their borders in perpetuity (forever).

bobknight33 said:

A historic day (for the Military Industrial Complex).

Russia is winning a war that that they didn't want.

Zelensky Celebrates Signing Security Agreement With The US



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