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Dyno FAIL.

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Ron Paul : Israel Created Hamas!

8266 says...

Here's a list of the military actions the US has been involved in since 1960.

I think he may have a point...

1959-60 -- The Caribbean.
1962 -- Thailand.
1962 -- Cuba.
1962-75 -- Laos.
1964 -- Congo (Zaire).
1959-75 -- Vietnam War.
1965 -- Invasion of Dominican Republic
1967 --Israel.
1967 -- Congo (Zaire).
1968 -- Laos & Cambodia.
1970 -- Cambodia Campaign.
1974 -- Evacuation from Cyprus.
1975 -- Evacuation from Vietnam.
1975 -- Evacuation from Cambodia.
1975 -- South Vietnam.
1975 -- Cambodia.
1976 -- Lebanon.
1976 -- Korea.
1978 -- Zaire (Congo).
1980 -- Iran.
1981 -- El Salvador.
1981 --Libya. in the Gulf of Sidra, claimed by Libya as territorial waters but considered international waters by the United States.[RL30172]
1982 -- Sinai.
1982 -- Lebanon.
1982-1983 -- Lebanon.
1983 -- Grenada.
1983-89 -- Honduras.
1983 -- Chad.
1984 -- Persian Gulf.
1986 -- Libya.
1986 -- Libya.
1986 -- Bolivia
1987-88 -- Persian Gulf.
1988 -- Honduras
1988 -- Panama.
1989 -- Libya.
1989 -- Panama.
1989 -- Colombia, Bolivia, and Peru.
1989 -- Philippines.
1989-90 -- Panama.
1990 -- Liberia.
1990 -- Saudi Arabia.
1991 -- Iraq.
1991 -- Zaire
1992 -- Sierra Leone.
1992 -- Kuwait.
1992-2003 -- Iraq. Iraqi No-Fly Zones
1993-Bosnia-Herzegovina.
1993 -- Macedonia.
1994-95 -- Haiti.
1994 -- Macedonia.
1995 -- Bosnia.
1996 -- Liberia.
1996 -- Central African Republic.
1997 -- Albania.
1997 -- Congo and Gabon.
1997 -- Sierra Leone.
1997 -- Cambodia.
1998 -- Iraq.
1998 -- Guinea-Bissau.
1998 - 1999 Kenya and Tanzania.
1998 -- Afghanistan and Sudan.
1998 -- Liberia.
1999 - 2001 East Timor.
1999 -- NATO's bombing of Serbia
2000 -- Sierra Leone.
2000 -- Yemen.
2000 -- East Timor.
2001 -- Afghanistan.
2002 -- Yemen.
2002 -- Philippines.
2002 -- Côte d'Ivoire.
2003 -- 2003 invasion of Iraq
2003 -- Liberia.
2003 -- Georgia and Djibouti
2004 -- Haïti
2004 -- Georgia, Djibouti, Kenya, Ethiopia, Yemen, and Eritrea.[7]
2006 -- Pakistan.
2006 -- Lebanon.
2007 -- Somalia.

Enter the Dragon sliced into tiny pieces / Bruce Lee vs. OAU

EDD (Member Profile)

Farhad2000 says...

I posed the same question to my dad's friend who is a proud Russian patriot, he said that the nation is prosperous but is again sliding in to the same political system that was prevalent in the USSR.

This is something reflected now in the way Russia is dealing with Iran and Georgia. I still believe the economy is over reliant on oil and gas pipeline control from Central Asian nations going into European markets. Alternative pipeline development in Georgia is a reason I believe Russia is meddling in it's affairs, as an alternative gas line from Central Asia to Europe would hinder Russia's ability to control the market to it's benefit as it has been trying to do with Ukraine.

Economy development is nice and all but it doesn't correlate directly with political and democratic freedom, at the same time that Russia's economy is developing we have an entrenchment of power via the Nashi / United Russia Party. Putin's role in bringing Russia back has been hyped up, when in reality they are benefits of difficult economic decisions made by people under Yeltsin, which Putin reaped politically. Economic development has also been centralized in Moscow, its not like Serbia or any other Russian backwater is better off now on the same level.

People in Russia didn't want Putin to leave actually, he didn't change the constitution to validate a third term, but am sure he will after Medvedev is done, to me that is basically the return of the politburo in the high echelons of power in the Kremlin.

My view is pessimistic, as Putin represents that most dangerous element of human psyche, someone raised in the mystique and power of the old Soviet Union, trained by the KGB to watch it all collapse in 1991, now working to build up its power once again but not through democratization but through a return to centralized power.

This is of course the same kind of Managed Democracy we see in China, and every former Soviet State. The important factor uniting them being the illusion of simple 'consumer' freedom.

In reply to this comment by EDD:
In reply to this comment by Farhad2000:
I disagree with you Legacy, Putin is centralizing power under himself thus its a authoritarian regime. History proves that too much power concentrated in one singular person always leads to a collapse not a sprout of growth and progress. This is why Nazi Germany failed, why the USSR failed and why every despotic regime fails.

Furthermore it is not economic stability when a country is wholly dependent on its oil export revenue to sustain a military expansion that is slowly leading into a new cold war.


I'd really like to super-promote your comment right now.

Although to be fair, legacy had some valid claims - at least the idea that a civic society in Russia would eventually arise through strong consumer society is backed up by Dmitri Trenin's Getting Russia Right, which I am currently in the process of finishing translating.

Hope I'm not bothering too much by following up on old comments. If you're not bothered too much, what's your take on Russia nowadays - up or down? How likely we really lapse into a new cold war with all the recent bs going on?

Farhad2000 (Member Profile)

thinker247 says...

That was utterly brilliant.

Most of Bush's administration is filled with Cold War-era propagandists who know how to stage a fight against the "Evil Empire," and people just go along with it, as if it's somehow related to today's battles.

What amazes me is the fact that they want so badly to have the Cold War, that they're going to nuke Iran! And what do people say? "Well, we won't invade; we'll just bomb their weapons sites." As if Iran won't see that as a threat against them in general.

I've never heard about Stalin's apportioning of different nationalities into the lower states, but it's an interesting idea. Did he apportion Bosnia and Serbia? Because it would be crazy to know that the Bosnian War was started over a Stalin-initiated program.

In reply to this comment by Farhad2000:
Of course they miss the Cold War, fighting a visible and tangible enemy you can easily call names by invoking over 50 years of anti-communist propaganda!

It is my view that Georgia had total right to try and subvert a splintering of it's nation by moving into South Ossestia. This all has to do with how Stalin mapped the nations below Russia, making sure to include various nationalities in each nation to avert breeding nationalistic sentiment. In Uzbekistan for example there is a huge section of Tajiks in Samarkand, tomorrow it could decide to splinter to join Tajikistan.

Russia isn't there to assure anyone of anything but projecting power and influence on the Georgian government and all other satellite states (Ukraine and Poland specifically) that their cooperation with the West is nothing more then piss in the wind, and when push comes to shove no one will come to their aid.

Welcome to the New Soviet Union.

Russia and Georgia fight, casualties ensue :(

MINK says...

remember how WWI "started" in Serbia while British troops were sent immediately to Iraq to secure the oil?

Man how tedious it is to watch humanity make the same stupid mistake again and again.

Ja, mein cerebro ist muerto. (Worldaffairs Talk Post)

kulpims says...

my first language is slovene, of course. english is the only foreign language i bothered to learn.
then there's our former country's serbo-croatian heritage; although separate languages now, serbian and croatian are practicaly one and the same although it's good to know both variants as some people there are still very touchy about it. i familiarised with it as a kid from tv, books and comics which were mostly published in serbo-croatian. it's also useful to learn cyrilic alphabet as it is still being used in serbia (differs slightly from your standard russian cyrilic).

i live close to the austrian border so i also know just enough german to hitch a ride on the autobahn or watch dubbed action movies. i'd like to learn spanish and some italian or french. maybe russian too. someday...

Bosnian war criminal Radovan Karadžić arrested

kulpims says...

the timing of this is not a coincidence as the newly elected serbian government is eager to please the EU. whether they also extradict general Mladić is something of a litmus paper for Serbia. such an act would be a sign Serbia finaly decided it wants tighter integration with the union and is ready for a more radical change in mentality

Bosnian war criminal Radovan Karadžić arrested

jonny says...

^ KP - That's exactly what I was thinking when I heard about this. There are rumors that he died, but who knows. General Mladic was even more loved by many Serbs than Karadic. Old war hero and all that. He's got hundreds, maybe thousands, of potential safe houses. But, yeah, for my money, the general is the guy to get.

It is interesting to think about how this came about, i.e., because the current government is determined to get Serbia into the EU. I wonder if it will set a precedent for other countries. There is some danger in that.

Iraq story buried by US networks

bcglorf says...

The lack of coverage by big media is, sadly, nothing new. It's great to see it condemned, though I think the daily show manages to do so more effectively, and it's a comedy program. I like the RealNews(all news actually) better when it's doing news rather than editorializing.

As for reading more into the lack of Iraq coverage as to any pro-war agenda, remember that the media's short attention span is equal opportunity with everything. The Iraq-Iran war, the gassing of the Kurds, Cambodia, Serbia, Rwanda and so on.

"Paint It Black" East-Europeany Orchestral Version

eurovision 1995, when a good song won, nocturne

lavoll says...

yes it is norway serbia this year had some "secret garden" tendencies, with the nona nona chorus. Sweden unfortunately was a little bit too anonymous this year, no one does "posing in a wind machine" as well as carola did

Enemy is a powerful word; a word used too often (Blog Entry by curiousity)

Farhad2000 says...

I agree that dehumanization is also a psychological defense, by dehumanizing you eliminate the enemy as being inherently human, its easier to kill then because you aren't killing human beings. Its a form of cognitive dissonance, that can be backed up by any number of reasons.

This can be seen in paintings, consider the Shootings of May 3rd by Goya, the killers have their backs to us, they are alien while those being shot at closer to us. We emphasize with those about to get killed through the emotions that play over each one. In other mediums like cinema we see it when an army is being assailed by a faceless nameless enemy, we are drawn to those whose plight we see, their attackers are distant, inhumane, this is done in alot of action films and especially in World War 2 movies. Our responses are being shaped in subtle ways.

Other forms of psychological lockdown also exist for example in Guantanamo Bay, troops there were trained to greet and acknowledge each other by the saying "Honor bound to defend freedom" . This is a psychological device to remind the troops of their mission and why there are there, its coercive because it eliminates internal criticism, the same could be seen in the armed forces post 9/11 where those events created the necessary ethical argument to committing evil acts in themselves. To against that flow was hard. Criticism was seen as lacking patriotism or worse aiding the enemy.

My statement that we must commit great evil to end evil is simply a realistic observation of man's involvement in war. Its the rationale that we create, this was the rational used in the Vietnam war, Gulf war, Serbia and other conflict. As if one nations atrocities are somehow better then anthers, but this is the view that most Americans are programmed to have. That Americans do no evil, that somehow their involvement is clean, just and required for the "survival of civilization as we know it against fundamentalist Islamic terrorism". Pretty words to simply justify a never ending war.

For me the issue is presented simply by the following quote - "Robert McNamara: I think the human race needs to think about killing. How much evil must we do in order to do good."

There is a speech by Chris Hedges talking about War Is A Force That Gives Us Meaning - http://www.videosift.com/video/War-is-a-Force-that-Gives-us-Meaning-by-Chris-Hedges-1H

I recommend reading Chris Hedges - "War Is A Force That Gives Us Meaning" and "Dispatches" by Micheal Herr.



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