That's not what he's saying at all.

The bible, or the Quran, or many other texts, just like historical events as they were, or works of literature, or other even historical texts as complex as this often have contradictory ideas. The US constitution is founded on a set of beliefs and ideas that almost all of us subscribe to, yet there are Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, Socialists, pragmatists, etc. all deriving very different ideas from the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and more. The reason this is true is because those values often come into conflict, and can outright contradict each other. Freedom vs security, equality vs prosperity, I could go on and on.

With the Bible, you have Catholics, Protestants, subdivided into a plethora of different religions in their own right under the umbrella of Christianity. You have the running joke even within Catholicism that American Catholics aren't really Catholics at all. Not only do different Christians interpret the bible differently, the amount they count on the bible varies between fundamentalists like Jehovah's Witnesses who take the bible extremely literally to extremely secular Christians who have absolutely no problem discarding any part of Christian doctrines when scientific evidence proves otherwise.

You have Christians who act as saintly as Mother Theresa to mobsters.

That's just Christianity. There are extremist Islamic groups that sound more like the Westboro Baptist Church than other Muslims.

But within Christianity, there's "honor thy mother and thy father" and "thou shall not kill". What if your parents are murderers?

That's a crude, and obvious example of conflicting values, but the 10 commandments are simple rules that don't completely resolve every situation.

What's stupid is to believe that you can know about a person's specific ideology just by their religion. Does their religion play a role in their ideology? Absolutely, but how it impacted their ideology has much more to do with their experiences, their natural tendancies, etc. than necessarily their religion. If you grew up in a mob family, honor thy mother and father was more likely the lesson you took from the Bible than thou shall not kill.

And if you look around you, this is plainly obvious. Even look within yourself. We're all a melting pot of lessons and ideas we've learned from school, personal life experiences, our religious beliefs, our parents, our socio-economic backgrounds, our friends, etc. That's why you are different from everyone of your religion, your friends, who you went to school with, your socioeconomic class, etc.

Believe this guy (ie. Wordy McWordsalot) or maybe it's just the day after Saint Patty's and you drank a ton of green beer the night before.

Yeah no, I'm sorry but you have a lot of this very wrong. The Gaza strip is the worlds largest open air prison. Israel has blocked peace with US support and has broken ceasefires consistently with US support for over 4 decades now.

You need to read a bit more to understand how complex this situation is. Hamas are by no means saints and they are cripplingly stupid. But there is a reason why there are dozens of votes at the UN that are every other fucking country in the world against Israel and the US. Because they're on the wrong side of history. Israel is running an apartheid state and will continue to do so as long as there's people like you who support them.

OH. MY. GOD.

That man has the patience of a saint. I would have lost the plot after about 60 seconds of that bullshit.

edit: 6 minutes later.... AAARRERRRGGHHHHHH JUST DISCONNECT THE MOTHERFUCKING SERVICE YOU UTTER BASTARD!!!!!

This map/video is so wrong on so many levels.

Firstly, to call the entirety of the present day United States "Indian Land" before the states were created is wrong and idiotic. Native Americans (another misnomer) were not present in every spot of every bit of the lands in any way. For the majority of the middle of the states, Natives were nomadic peoples, thus while they could lay claim to all of the land if you asked, it is just as dumb as saying that a bear owns all of the territory it can walk on.

Secondly, for those of you who think that Native Americans should have more reservations, you should read any number of books by Native American scholars that say that the worst thing the governments have done is treat Native Americans as separate from standard citizens of the countries that have them. What they should do is eliminate reservations altogether to get rid of the dependency trap that is killing the Native American people as we speak. One might say, "well, they will lose their culture." But this, too is incorrect. Have the Chinese lost their culture in North America? Have the varying kinds of Europeans? In my city many people still celebrate Chinese New Year and lots celebrate Saint Patrick's Day and Robbie Burns day (regardless of whether or not these are ex-pat holidays).

So in conclusion, what the government did in the past vis-a-vis the murder of Native Peoples was absolutely despicable. However, taking land was very often something that happened without bloodshed and was done with trades and treaties, the bloodshed that followed was a clash between terrified Europeans and the people whose culture they didn't understand. But for many of the incidents the Native Peoples sanctified the taking of the land.

One of these in Saints Row would be awesome.

Lyrics in English, more or less:

Magnificent, magnificent
You were magnificent, I was pathetic,
we were magnificent,
magnificent,
you were magnificent,
I was pathetic,
we were magnificent.

Hey, baby, oops : young lady,
I swear I won't hit on you,
I am single and since yesterday, damn it,
I cannot have children, but anyway that's not... Hey, come back here!
Just a few minutes, come on, I did not insult you, I have my manners,
and I'm quite a bit plastered and for guys like me
you have other things to do, you could have seen me yesterday,
when I was

Magnificent, magnificent
You were magnificent, I was pathetic,
we were magnificent,
magnificent,
you were magnificent,
I was pathetic,
we were magnificent.

Hey, take a look at yourself, think you're Mr Handsome
just because you got married?!
This is but a ring, man, don't get carried away,
she'll dump you like they always do,
now about the other girl, did you tell her?
I can tell her if you want, that will settle the matter,
and I'll tell the kid too, if you have children,
you just wait for 3 or 7 years, and then you'll see
how it's

magnificent, magnificent
You were magnificent, I was pathetic,
we were magnificent,
magnificent,
you were magnificent,
I was pathetic,
we were magnificent.

Eh girl, oh, sorry: boy,
you know, in life there are no good and bad guys,
if Mom is a pain, that's because she's afraid to be a granny,
if Dad cheats on Mom, that's because Mom is getting old, what else?
Why the blush? Come on, come back, boy,
and what's wrong with you all
staring at me like I was a monkey, eh?
Sure, you're such a bunch of saints,
you bunch of apes!
Give me a baby monkey, he will be

magnificent, magnificent
You were magnificent, I was pathetic,
we were magnificent,
magnificent,
you were magnificent,
I was pathetic,
we were magnificent.

This is song about a nasty breakup, where he's been out drinking away the pain.

Formidable = formidable, or great, and is used in the sense of terrific or amazing.
minable = pathetic, wretched (he sings fort minable, very pathetic, to rhyme with formidable)


lyrics in french:

Formidable, formidable
Tu étais formidable, j'étais fort minable,
Nous étions formidables,
Formidable,
Tu étais formidable,
J'étais fort minable,
Nous étions formidables.

Eh, l'bébé, oups : mademoiselle,
Je vais pas vous draguer, promis, juré,
J'suis célibataire et depuis hier - putain,
J'peux pas faire d'enfants, mais bon, c'est pas... eh, reviens !
5 minutes quoi, j't'ai pas insulté, j'suis poli, courtois,
Et un peu fort bourré et pour les mecs comme moi
Vous avez autre chose à faire, vous m'pourriez vu hier
Où j'étais

Formidable, formidable
Tu étais formidable, j'étais fort minable,
Nous étions formidables,
Formidable,
Tu étais formidable, j'étais fort minable,
Nous étions formidables.

Eh tu t'es regardé, tu t'crois beau
Parce que tu t'es marié ?!
Mais c'est qu'un anneau, mec, t'emballes pas,
Elle va t'larguer comme elles font chaque fois,
Et puis l'autre fille, tu lui en a parlé ?
Si tu veux je lui dis, comme ça c'est réglé,
Et au p'tit aussi, enfin si vous en avez,
Attends 3 ans, 7 ans et là vous verrez
Si c'est

Formidable, formidable,
Tu étais formidable, j'étais fort minable,
Nous étions formidables,
Formidable,
Tu étais formidable, et j'étais fort minable,
Nous étions formidables.

Et, petite, oh, pardon : petit,
Tu sais dans la vie y'a ni méchant ni gentil,
Si maman est chiante, c'est qu'elle a peur d'être mamie,
Si papa trompe maman, c'est parce que maman vieillit, tiens !
Pourquoi t'es tout rouge? Beh, reviens, gamin,
Et qu'est-ce que vous avez tous
A me regarder comme un singe, vous ?
Ah, oui, vous êtes saints, vous,
Bande de macaques !
Donnez moi un bébé singe, il sera

Formidable, formidable
Tu étais formidable, j'étais fort minable,
Nous étions formidables,
Formidable,
Tu étais formidable, j'étais fort minable,
Nous étions formidables

The Kid Can Dance - "Benny Goodman" by Saint Motel has been added as a related post - related requested by Grimm on that post.

8in8/Neil Gaiman/Amanda Palmer - The Problem with Saints has been added as a related post - related requested by Lilithia on that post.

8in8/Neil Gaiman/Amanda Palmer - The Problem with Saints has been added as a related post - related requested by Lilithia.

Song about Nikola Tesla by 8in8 (Neil Gaiman, Amanda Palmer) has been added as a related post - related requested by Lilithia.

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Oh no, how ever shall he cope with the slings and arrows of the likes of me?

Look! on the horizon!
It's Saint Ching to Justins rescue, and he's definitely doing it out of concern for the poor little rich kid and not simply for the sake of being a contrarian.

That is good to hear! Actually I lived in Ventura for 19 years, worked in Oxnard. Gangbanging denies the average American (whatever their race) the right to enjoy their nieghborhoods, I am sure you wouldn't deny that. Myself I love Saint Paul, but I grew up over the big Muddy in Wisconsin so there you go :-). It will all work itself out in the laundry