Its roots-rock, JAPR. Folk and blues-revivalists (ex: Bob Dylan) tend to revel in the anti-perfection, anti-production, and singular voice of the originals (ex: Woody Guthrie, Robert Johnson). By 'singular voice' I mean a minimally invasive backing following the lead wherever the lead wants to go.

Implying that for performers to be good they must skillfully comply to playing their instrument as 'professionally' as others is practically the definition of musical close-mindedness.

... not that I'm calling you close-minded; I don't know you, and for all I know you wrote your comment in 15 seconds based on watching 10 seconds of the clip... I'm just throwing that out there, is-all. Spicing up the boards!

Seriously? Jimi has no soul? are you retarded?

I think Bill Hicks said it best

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCbVkX7jdAM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRkA6zugNMQ

Oh and considered by who exactly? Well lets take a look at the top 100 guitarists as voted for by the readers of rolling stone

The 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time and the number one spot goes to...??? Jimi? oh no that can't be right. Now who is this eric johnson noob? Is he even on the list? oh yea that's right...he's not.

1Jimi Hendrix
2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band
3 B.B. King
4 Eric Clapton
5 Robert Johnson
6 Chuck Berry
7 Stevie Ray Vaughan
8 Ry Cooder
9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin
10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones
11Kirk Hammett of Metallica
12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana
13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead
14 Jeff Beck
15 Carlos Santana
16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones
17 Jack White of the White Stripes
18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers
19 Richard Thompson
20 James Burton
21 George Harrison
22 Mike Bloomfield
23 Warren Haynes
24 The Edge of U2
25 Freddy King
26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave
27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits
28 Stephen Stills
29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges
30 Buddy Guy
31 Dick Dale
32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service
33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth
35 John Fahey
36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's
37 Bo Diddley
38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac
39 Brian May of Queen
40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival
41 Clarence White of the Byrds
42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson
43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic
44 Scotty Moore
45 Frank Zappa
46 Les Paul
47 T-Bone Walker
48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith
49 John McLaughlin
50 Pete Townshend
51 Paul Kossoff of Free
52 Lou Reed
53 Mickey Baker
54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane
55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple
56 Tom Verlaine of Television
57 Roy Buchanan
58 Dickey Betts
59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead
61 Ike Turner
62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band
63 Danny Gatton
64 Mick Ronson
65 Hubert Sumlin
66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour
67 Link Wray
68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape
69 Steve Howe of Yes
70 Eddie Van Halen
71 Lightnin' Hopkins
72 Joni Mitchell
73 Trey Anastasio of Phish
74 Johnny Winter
75 Adam Jones of Tool
76 Ali Farka Toure
77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat
78 Robbie Robertson of the Band
79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps (1997)
80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids
81 Derek Trucks
82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd
83 Neil Young
84 Eddie Cochran
85 Randy Rhoads
86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath
87 Joan Jett
88 Dave Davies of the Kinks
89 D. Boon of the Minutemen
90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper
91 Robby Krieger of the Doors
92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5
94 Bert Jansch
95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine
96 Angus Young of AC/DC
97 Robert Randolph
98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer
99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag
100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden

Actually the ending piece that wins the duel is not Steve Vai's composition really, it's Paganini. The piece is ironic in some ways - Steve Vai represents Paganini and the classical school whilst Ralph represents Robert Johnson, yet Ralph wins by playing a Paganini piece that he must have learned in Juilliard.

Ralph does a great job at fake guitar playing in this movie, by the way. I wonder if he actually turned out to be a decent player after all the training he must have gone through.

Johnson recorded everything he ever would, in a couple of days, in a two different Texas hotels, in makeshift recording studios set up on the spot(in the old days, the cutting machine had to be there, with the artist).....he got paid, dick.

Two guys needed here, to get the sound that Johnson could get out of one guitar.


Does Clapton cover every Robert Johnson track, or is it only a few?...Johnson only laid down 30 tracks in his short life...


."My doorknob keeps on turnin', there must be spooks around my bed..."

different strokes for different folks. in our studio, when we make drumnbass, we compress a lot. when we record a female singer songwriter, we don't.

it's similar to saturation on a photo, sometimes you want bright rich colours, sometimes you want shades of pastel. neither is "right" or "wrong", it's just another tool in the box which can be used for good or bad.

i agree that adverts being louder than the programmes is BAD but then, i don't watch telly, because the adverts are annoying at ANY volume (and everyone is speaking lithuanian anyway)

what i really hate is poppy "progressive" housey type tunes where the bass kick is so squeezed it actually replaces the rest of the sounds, every beat, with a long release so it takes a while for the rest of the song to come back. it's like "B...wwwWWWB...wwwWWWB..." over and over again.

when stuff is played on the radio sometimes it sounds bad because the radio station is recompressing everything again. that's why people do alternative masters for radio play as opposed to consumer release or vinyl pressing. you do what is appropriate.

and about vinyl... i love vinyl, even if it is a placebo effect, i don't care, it is still an effect isn't it. and noise is GOOD. listen to Robert Johnson recordings until you learn this

and about dynamics on the radio... they are totally paranoid about "dead air" (silence) to the point that they won't play a tune that goes quiet at any point. it would sound like your radio had turned off.

Fletch posts 6 vids in this playlist: "Islam - Died in the Queue" after the conversation with Gwaan in this video:
http://www.videosift.com/video/Children-in-militant-Kindergarten-Ceremony
which was posted a full day before this thread began.

But the point I saw was that all these videos made it through the queue:

http://www.videosift.com/video/Crazy-super-fundie-christian-freak-on-Trading-Spouses
http://www.videosift.com/video/Kirk-Cameron-The-Evolution-Zone
http://www.videosift.com/video/Sam-Harris-lectures-on-the-dangers-of-both-religious-fundamentalism-and-religious-moderation
http://www.videosift.com/video/Crazy-American-Fundamentalist-Christian
http://www.videosift.com/video/Dispatches-The-New-Fundamentalists-on-Channel-4
http://www.videosift.com/video/Doin-Nails-for-Jesus--from-Jesus-Camp
http://www.videosift.com/video/God-Hates-Fags
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Secret-Life-Of-Brian-Monty-Pythonreligion-documentary
http://www.videosift.com/video/Alan-Moore-discusses-religion-with-Stewart-Lee
http://www.videosift.com/video/Louis-Thereuxs-Weird-Weekend-Televangelists-next-5-inside
http://www.videosift.com/video/Richard-Dawkins-BBC-Interview
http://www.videosift.com/video/Gods-Next-Army-evangelicalpolitical-documentary-212
http://www.videosift.com/video/Christopher-Hitches-on-the-Death-of-Jerry-Falwell
http://www.videosift.com/video/Voltron-the-Transformers-are-the-work-of-Satan
http://www.videosift.com/video/Fundamentalism-vs-Evolution-The-Train-Crash
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Passion-of-Christ-2-Judgement-Day
http://www.videosift.com/video/UFO-Obsesed-Christians-Science-Public-Access-Television
http://www.videosift.com/video/Stephen-Lynch-Craig-Christ
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Atheist-P-Funk-is-Accosted-by-Christian-Evangelists
http://www.videosift.com/video/the-chapman-brothers-jump-rope-for-the-glory-of-god
http://www.videosift.com/video/Pope-has-never-read-Bible--Violence-Contrary-to-Gods-Nature
http://www.videosift.com/video/Jesus-Camp-on-Bill-Maher
http://www.videosift.com/video/Jesus-Heal-My-Masturbation-Genes-Story
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-God-Who-Wasnt-There-2005-documentary-film-1-hour
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Blasphemy-Challenge
http://www.videosift.com/video/QI-Christmas-Christianity-and-Mithras-Funny
http://www.videosift.com/video/Pulitzer-prize-winner-compares-US-Christian-Right-to-Fascism
http://www.videosift.com/video/Robert-Johnson-Expose-by-Christian-Group
http://www.videosift.com/video/Sign-of-the-Apocalypse-Christian-Comedy
http://www.videosift.com/video/Man-Says-Hes-Jesus-Followers-Get-666-Tattoos
http://www.videosift.com/video/Who-gives-you-candy-Jesus-or-Castroanti-commie-film-clip
http://www.videosift.com/video/Louis-Thereuxs-Weird-Weekend-Televangelists-next-5-inside
http://www.videosift.com/video/Kevin-Smith-about-Mel-Gibson
http://www.videosift.com/video/An-atheist-among-Christians-for-30-days
http://www.videosift.com/video/Chocolate-Jesus-Makes-Catholics-CRAZY
http://www.videosift.com/video/Jesus-Camp-controversial-2006-Evangelical-documentary
http://www.videosift.com/video/Stewart-Lee-Dont-get-me-started-
http://www.videosift.com/video/Ted-Haggard-Is-Completely-Heterosexual-by-Roy-Zimmerman
http://www.videosift.com/video/Mike-Daiseys-Christian-Audience-Protest-Walkout-and-Attack
http://www.videosift.com/video/God-is-not-Great-Stewart-interviews-Hitchens
http://www.videosift.com/video/Dr-Seuss-Bible
http://www.videosift.com/video/Kirk-Cameron-on-the-OReilly-Factor
http://www.videosift.com/video/School-Prayer-Debate-Turns-To-Hitler-Debate http://www.videosift.com/video/Doug-Stanhope-Why-I-dont-Believe
http://www.videosift.com/video/How-to-Witness-to-a-Homosexual
http://www.videosift.com/video/Self-Induced-Religious-Fit
http://www.videosift.com/video/Bill-Maher-interviews-Christoper-Hitchens
http://www.videosift.com/video/Submissive-Jesus
http://www.videosift.com/video/Bill-Mahers-New-Rules-Heaven-Can-Hate
http://www.videosift.com/video/United-States-of-Jesus
http://www.videosift.com/video/GodTube-how-to-deal-with-pr0n-on-the-intertubes
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Atheist-Delusion
http://www.videosift.com/video/Miracles-and-Morals
http://www.videosift.com/video/Life-and-Liberty-for-All-Who-Believe
http://www.videosift.com/video/Let-the-bodies-hit-the-floor-religious-smackdown
http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Evangelical-War-On-Science

And you know, farhad, how much it hurt me to have to sacrifice that Robert Johnson documentary...but you're right, it's the integrity of Videosift we're talking about.

This particular situation smacks of favoritism and elitism. I don't think this was careless: I think this was very well planned out. And since Rickegee is a member of the collective the presence of the TayTV icon (and link to the blog) the reposted video is still in violation of the guidelines.

# You are in any way responsible for or involved in marketing, promoting, or any other manner of proliferating the video.
# You could receive any form of compensation (monetary or otherwise) as a result of the submission or subsequent views.
# You are somehow represented in the content of the video whether photographically, artistically, audibly, or metaphorically.

No I disagree for cutting corners for people just because they submit good content.

We went over this rule when self-linking was re-dressed by MLX herself, I came forth and vouched all my self-linked posts. None of them were commercial either (Robert Johnson doc and a doc on Robert Capa), this is not so much about content as setting a precedent for other users that come to the site.

The moment we start to be lenient on users, for submitting content is the day the entire dynamic of this site unravels. If I can post anything just because it's awesome and then link my own website. Am I really self-linking? Am I self-promoting?

I rather not get into discussions over details, and rather have a blanket rule for all posters.

Because I know it would make us look rather stupid for banning other self-linkers, some who don't just come posting garbage, but good content that simply violates the rules of the site. Should we give them a break as well?

My Dad started to understand the whole 'scratching up records to a back beat' thing after seeing this part of Scratch, in which Mix Master Mike describes how scratching lets him participate along with the music he loves and proceeds to play a frikkin Robert Johnson track.

Pretty cool!

woo! makes me sweat!

gratuitous self-link! this proto-rock clip reminded me of a fun scene from Scratch that I'd been wanting to post; http://www.videosift.com/video/Robert-Johnson-Mix-Master-Mike-understanding )

Nobody knowns much of anything about Robert Johnson, just that he wrote all these tragic and melancholy songs in the poetic and powerful words of Christian mythology.

The narrator sounds like he say's "DUUUDE!" a lot.

The Son House recording is great... "he'd get the guitar and be tryin to play it and just be noisen' the people".

When did Tuvok play Robert Johnson?

And only someone who believes fervently in God, heaven, and hell would actually believe Johnson's legend was literal.

However the stuff they say about feeling like the music comes from elsewhere is true, I think. They used to call them Muses back in the day. And whatever brought about Robert Johnson's great music, I say, bring it on. I find this narrator HILARIOUS.

Yes I admit it, I don't want Theo being all alone

But I doubt you will ever find Robert Johnson or the documentary on Robert Capa out there uploaded either. They aren't Family Guy, Colbert or Obama clips. However this doesn't mean I intend to continue doing so. And I actually agree with MLX though support the peer to peer supervision outlined by PM.

FYI: I switched out the embeds out for the Spaced one as I found one that was similar quality.

So farhad's done it, too, and admits it freely. I had suspicions about that Robert Johnson video, this one is from the same google video user. Personally, I think it'll be a worse can of worms if we allow members to link to content they've uploaded, even if they didn't originally create it.

Sure, I've found videos that I wanted to submit but weren't at youtube, etc., or embeddable, it happens occasionally. Usually if I wait a day or two someone uploads it and I can post it here. Have I ever considered uploading it myself? Sure, but I didn't because I value this place too much and didn't want to cheat it.

Personally, I vote to keep the rules as they are except to add that even starred-members may be banned for repeated violation of the guidelines.