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b4rringt0n (Member Profile)

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Nerdwriter: What Made Darth Vader Visually Iconic

Sagemind says...

He forgot things like the mask itself, the look and design of it.

He didn't mention the control panel on his chest, that made us wonder if he was human or machine or how much of each.

He didn't mention the Imperial March which framed the dark presence of Vader when he came on screen. Star Wars was the first movie to use a full Soundtrack to emote the feel of everything and control the viewers emotions as they watched...
(Jaws was the first to use the sound in this way, but Star Wars was the first to use the Orchestra.

b4rringt0n (Member Profile)

Rabbit of Seville

Rabbit of Seville

Sagemind says...

I have to admit.
I was lucky enough to see this performed LIVE.
Performed by the Vancouver Symphony Orchestra, with the original cartoon played uncut on Big Screen.
With Mel Blank standing on stage introducing it, and answering questions afterwards.

I got to See over Two hours of footage with the VSO performing soundtrack to some of Loony Toons best musical pieces. With Mel breaking them down and performing between each piece.

Most people don't know that the full uncut versions of these cartoons are never shown any more.

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The Killing Type - Amanda Palmer

Philip Glass joue Mad Rush

BSR says...

As far as I know, this is a piano solo. But at certain times I can hear strings and brass. Although you can't see the whole orchestra I'm pretty sure no other instruments join in. Is it possible he's that good to create the essence of strings and brass with just the keyboard?

Example: from 2:45 - 4:00

And the woman in the right side background, with her knitted brow, seems very touched by the piece or she's thinking, "let's speed this up a bit."

Outer Space (Live)

Introduction to Music

noims says...

For the curious, the flash at 1:52 says:
Some of you might be curious what attending bandcamp is like. Well let me tell you.

You're 12. You're playing in the cornet section. You've had a crush on Holly Willis for weeks now. But you notice her sneaking off with Chris Jones - the first violinist - one day and later at rehearsal they're holding hands.

So you start intentionally playing the wrong notes but everyone just thinks you're mentally ill and the conductor verbally destroys you in front of the entire orchestra.

I hope you're doing great, Chris Jones. I bet you work in IT now and you're rish, Chris Jones.

Fuck you, Chris Jones.

Harrison Ford salutes John Williams

Jim Jefferies on Bill Cosby and Rape Jokes

Chairman_woo says...

I fear you have misunderstood what I was getting at.

He talks for full minute about the ironic idea of the victims hypothetically having a sense of cognitive dissonance about the experience (done from his perspective).

Timestamp: 3:40ish to 4:50ish

I don't for a moment think he is suggesting they actually did, but the juxtaposition of that can be funny for the reasons I already outlined.
i.e. it is a common phenomenon in other areas of our experience, with people we idolise. By associating it with an experience in which we presume most people wouldn't or didn't feel that way, we have more strings of that irony thrown into the comedy orchestra.

Cosby is famous and loved and his fans presumably find him funny. There is therefore humour in the ridiculous idea that there might be some starstruck joy in being violated by said idol.

I think the bit worked perfectly if one can detach oneself from ideological prejudices.

As I already said, Louis's bits about paedophilia don't appear to be doing anything different here and thus far you have failed to explain how they actually differ, other than using the unqualified term "truthful".

Louis talks about their desires and relates them in a way universal to the human condition. This is precisely what much of Jim routine is clearly doing. "think about the thing you really love to do, well that's how Bill feels about rape" (paraphrased).

I can't see a distinction right now other than you appear to be much more emotionally sensitive to the rape thing. This is understandable, but I'm not seeing the lack of equivalence between the two comics here in terms of composition and implied meaning?

This whole bit felt deeply multi stranded and was tackling many disparate concepts at once. The gradation of rape was merely one of them and I think it's unfair to break it down to only one, or to deny the "truthfulness" hiding behind the sham.

Without that "truthfulness" the whole bit doesn't work, the assumption that the audience recognises the reality beneath the sham is unavoidable. Unless of course you think the audience and or Jim to be genuinely callous and misogynistic (which you've made clear you do not).

I guess my whole point is that the two bits are functionally almost identical. The only difference I can really see is a different style of delivery and subject matter.

I notice you appear to have dodged the comparisons to his war jokes?

Is there no moral equivalence there? If anything there is far less empathy and personal "truth" being explored. The "little cunt" just dies, Jim never attempts to humanise him or relate the kids experience in an ironic way.

By your logic that routine should be far more offensive surely? (especially when we consider that life and subsequent brutal death in a warzone is quite possibly a more horrible experience than most rapes, especially the kind being discussed here)

bareboards2 said:

@Chairman_woo

"Presumably it's the other thread that's proving challenging, i.e. the masochistic idea of enjoying ones abuse?"

I scanned the comment thread and didn't see anything about this. Are you saying that is what the comedy bit is saying?

I would suggest that you misunderstood his comedic point, like, entirely. Not that I thought it was funny, but I thought he was trying to point up that rape is terrible and that it is "funny" to give different types of rapes grades to bring that point home.

After all, he says repeatedly, I hate rape. I believed him.

I thought it was poorly constructed and not "truthful" like Louis CK gets to the truth of horrible things. But whatever. Not everyone is as brilliant as Louis CK.

However. If you think the joke was some women actually enjoy being digitally raped because they like the idea of being taken against their will in their sexual fantasies, then, to me, you are proving my point that this bit doesn't work.

Of course, it is possible that was indeed the "joke." If it is, then I actively detest this bit and how it actively supports rape culture in our society.

I'm not judging sexual fantasies -- they are what they are. There is, however, a deep difference between sexual fantasies and sexual play and actually, literally, being raped. (I recommend reading Dan Savage's sex advice column. This topic comes up a lot.)

I don't think that is what he meant though. I think the joke is just poorly constructed and he needs to work on it more.



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