Nietzche on Hardship - Philosophy: A Guide to Happiness has been added as a related post - related requested by Trancecoach on that post.

>> ^LarsaruS:

I actually find the notion of saving our species to be a vain and misguided effort. In 100 million billion trillion years when the Universe is still here, We wont be. If we survive long enough we will evolve from Homo Sapien to something else. Ergo the Human race as we are today, here defined as Homo Sapien as I doubt we would consider Cro Magnon or Neanderthal as Human beings if they were around today, can not survive even if we leave this planet. All paths of evolution lead to something else that is "better", it is just a matter of applying the right amount of time and biological pressures, or it dies out in the end.
Nietzche said it best: "Let us beware of saying that death is the opposite of life. The living being is only a species of the dead, and a very rare species."

Then why bother to type that post?

Our lives have meaning to us today, this is true regardless of their ultimate end. If you have any values at all, it's rational to try to advance and sustain those values; the continuation of our species is, currently, necessary to that operation.

I actually find the notion of saving our species to be a vain and misguided effort. In 100 million billion trillion years when the Universe is still here, We wont be. If we survive long enough we will evolve from Homo Sapien to something else. Ergo the Human race as we are today, here defined as Homo Sapien as I doubt we would consider Cro Magnon or Neanderthal as Human beings if they were around today, can not survive even if we leave this planet. All paths of evolution lead to something else that is "better", it is just a matter of applying the right amount of time and biological pressures, or it dies out in the end.

Nietzche said it best: "Let us beware of saying that death is the opposite of life. The living being is only a species of the dead, and a very rare species."

Great quote, thanks.

In reply to this comment by EndAll:
I am amazed that the comment I felt was the most reasonable and insightful came from mr. westy. Regardless, good point westy. He who controls the definition controls the debate. And I think blankfist touched on a point similar to this Nietzche quote: The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently.

I am amazed that the comment I felt was the most reasonable and insightful came from mr. westy. Regardless, good point westy. He who controls the definition controls the debate. And I think blankfist touched on a point similar to this Nietzche quote: The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently.

the lyrics in the description are wrong:

Immanuel Kant was a real pissant
Who was very rarely stable,
Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
Who could think you under the table,
David Hume could out-consume,
Schopenhauer and Hegel.
And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
Who was just as schloshed as Schlegel.

There's nothing Nietzche couldn't teach ya
'Bout the raising of the wrist.
Socrates himself was permanently pissed.

John Stuart Mill, of his own free will
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.
Plato, they say could stick it away,
Half a crate of whiskey everyday.
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle,
Hobbes was fond of his dram,
And René DesCartes was a drunken fart
"I drink, therefore I am."

Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed,
A lovely little thinker
but a bugger when he's pissed.

Okay, Sarzy; you beat me to it.

Still, there's nothing Nietzche couldn't teach ya about the raising of the wrist.