Journeyman egg fryer maybe, definitely not a king.

I dunno about Journeyman... They're usually hit or miss. Gonna wait on this one.

>> ^legacy0100:

About the dog though, could it mean hot'dogs' and not a four legged animal?


Nope, it's the animal.
It is suggested that the saying is derived from a Till Eulenspiegel story in which a brewing journeyman is told by his master to "boil the hops well for a strong beer" but sadly the journeyman misunderstood and put the masters dog, which was called "Hopf" (Hopfen = hops) in the pan instead.

aawww.... I shouldnt have said anything, I lose mor friends that way
>> ^Yogi:
>> ^csnel3:
I'm neither an apprentice nor a Journeyman. As a Master I do not show my work, but the results I freely share.


God but you sound like a tiresome fuck I don't want to have anything to do with.

>> ^csnel3:

I'm neither an apprentice nor a Journeyman. As a Master I do not show my work, but the results I freely share.



God but you sound like a tiresome fuck I don't want to have anything to do with.

I'm neither an apprentice nor a Journeyman. As a Master I do not show my work, but the results I freely share.

(i would normaly use my TI-30 and divide 66 by 80 = and inverse the tangent. But tonight all I had is my Iphone so I divided 66 by 80 = and 2nd functioned the tangent. I was not confident in my answer so I didnt show my work, as I knew the sifters would tear me apart if I was wrong).
>> ^Yogi:
>> ^csnel3:
39.52°

B-
you didn't show your work <IMG class=smiley src="http://cdn.videosift.com/cdm/emoticon/tongue.gif">

Too me, not being afforded the same rights heterosexuals are given, is interference by the government.

I agree. I'm all for equal legal, civil rights. The beef many religious groups have with the current batch of gay right efforts has been that it leaves too many holes. The movement is doomed to circle around itself because religious groups are not going along with a law that doesn't also include strong safeguards for their own rights. This isn't an issue where the gay movement can just rush through a slapdash law with the blythe promise that it'll be 'fixed later'. The law giving equal civil rights to gay couples has to at the same time clearly address the issue of the rights of people morally opposed to homosexuality. Until it does that, it's stuck. No law to date that I'm aware of has undertaken that journeyman effort.

And you did miss the point in your original retort that I was pointing out that you too are a product of your environment.

No - you missed the point where I brilliantly discussed the subjective absolute standard "liberty & justice for all" represents. Anyone who feels any degree of slight can legitimately complain about "liberty & justice" in the U.S. being an unmet standard. If the personally subjective standard of perceived slights to liberty & justice are the standard by which we recite the PoA or not, then NO ONE would be saying it. The kid has made an arbitrary, illogical choice slap a pre-requisite on his recitation of the pledge. That's his business - but it is no more 'logical' than if some kook on a right-wing compound does it for the same reason.

Are you arguing with this boy's opinions...those critiques don't change the validity of the boys opposition

No - I'm dismissing his stated conditions. If he wants to advocate gay rights then that's cool. But his chosen method is misguided, illogical, and fallacious. If he'd leave the pledge out of it then it's all good. But to piggy-back his cause on the pledge more than smacks of being a deliberate stunt egged on by whatever social group is in his background. If his argument has validity, then he doesn't NEED to be doing this crud with the pledge.

Religion does not have a stranglehold on the meaning of Marriage, and the government should recognize a meaning that applies to all citizens, not just those part of an exclusive ideology.

I agree. See my above paragraph about the real 'issue' with gay rights legislation. If they are really serious about getting this done then they NEED to stop doing a half-assed job of it. I understand the desire to obtain the rights is way overdue, and they've got legitimate gripes. But it is neither wise nor an advancement of 'justice' if legislation passes that does not protect all citizens equally. To advance 'thier' justice at the expense of harming the justice of others is no solution. All it does is set up even bigger clashes in the future. If we're going to do this, then let's do it properly and craft a law for the ages.

The hardest part of reading your posts isn't that you say things that are wrong, but snide.

I'd suggest that isn't me being 'snide'. It is your bias coloring how you choose to interpret what I say. Case in point...

To have a lot of adult friends, "let alone gay ones," isn't nearly as disconcerting a thought as your clear assumption that having "gay ones" is somehow dangerous.

At what point did I either state or imply that having gay friends is dangerous? Short answer: I never did that. That is YOU projecting your bias. In fact I don't have a beef with a 10 year old kid having an adult gay friend. Unless that adult gay friend is manipulating the kid to make a stink about the Pledge... But even then my opposition is not to the 'gayness', but to the person being a manipulative jackass.

>> ^HollywoodBob:
>> ^Payback:
...or invest in cordless tools and tell the drop cord to go fuck itself.

And learning how to roll a cord without looping it around an elbow will stop them from tangling when you occasionally need one.


Oh, don't get me wrong, it's an excellent idea, just it's been around as long as electric hand-held power tools. You show a journeyman carpenter this, and he'll go, "ya, so?".

thought you may find this interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O2WwESwJhw

India may just fall apart without strong unity.

Perhaps yet another Putin-to-be in India?

Btw, journeyman pictures is da shitt. Almot like neo-nat geo

It's amazing how easily an artisan can form the image of a cat out of a shapeless blob of material, especially that quickly and effortlessly! It wouldn't surprise me if the man was at least a Journeyman in his craft.