Doesn't sound like Joe Rogan. Must have a cold.

Faggot, Douche, Cunt, Pussie etc all have one thing in common - they all refer to what heterosexual males fear and detest the most:

weakness.

All of those terms in one way or another refer to aspects of the female persona, be it physical or psychological. Inherent to that notion is the knowledge that women are weaker than men and traditionally dependent on them for protection. To be physically or emotionally dependent on anyone is to be a failure in the psyche of the heterosexual male.

That seems to me to be a base instinct, and can only be overcome with rational thought and secular humanistic values.>> ^entr0py:

>> ^bmacs27:

What we need is a defacto, non-descriptive insult, which is not associated with a particular group. I think that word is douche.

Unless you count women. Men calling each other douche bag is exactly like men going around calling each other pussies. It's the association with vulgar womanliness that's supposed to be insulting. I could see both terms irritating women who want to be respected.
It really is hard to think a word that is a personal insult but doesn't insult a group. Not jerk either, masturbators don't deserve that sort of scorn, it's natural. Maybe ass? Even if the noble donkey does not get our meaning, doesn't that just make it more unfair and mean spirited? Poor stupid bastards.
I give up.

Good luck with that. We're also taking back porch monkey.>> ^Matthu:

Ahhh bullshit! Joe Rogan's a fucking faggot.
I really like the way Eminem drew the line in the movie 8 mile. He's battling and he points to the gay guy and says, "He's gay," then points to the douchebag and says, "You're a faggot."
People need to get way over themselves and let these words evolve, since, hate to break it to you, they ain't going away.

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>> ^bmacs27:


What we need is a defacto, non-descriptive insult, which is not associated with a particular group. I think that word is douche.


Unless you count women. Men calling each other douche bag is exactly like men going around calling each other pussies. It's the association with vulgar womanliness that's supposed to be insulting. I could see both terms irritating women who want to be respected.

It really is hard to think a word that is a personal insult but doesn't insult a group. Not jerk either, masturbators don't deserve that sort of scorn, it's natural. Maybe ass? Even if the noble donkey does not get our meaning, doesn't that just make it more unfair and mean spirited? Poor stupid bastards.

I give up.

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Tom Cruise is such a fag... in every which way.
>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

Being a good entertainer doesn't make you smart.
Exhibit 1: Tom Cruise
I rest my case, your honor.

>> ^Yogi:

I swear at first glance with his UFC color commentary career [...] he looks like such a douchbag.

I'm curious what the connection is?

>> ^Mcboinkens:

You're comparing apples and oranges. One word meant a bunch of sticks, the other was originally a racist term. One was converted into a hateful term, one has always been.

Nigger was not originally derogatory. It started as negar, then neggar. It was a variant on negro and, in the US, meant the same thing: a black-skinned person, generally from Africa. In the UK it also included Indians.

It became a racial insult because of how and when it was used.

So, yeah, @Tokoki is, in fact, comparing apples to apples.

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>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

Being a good entertainer doesn't make you smart.
Exhibit 1: Tom Cruise
I rest my case, your honor.


No, but being a lyrical genius does.

>> ^Mcboinkens:
>> ^Tokoki:
So, you want to call african-americans "nigger" straight to their face?
>> ^Mcboinkens:
And I'm fine with not using the word faggot as an insult as long as homosexuals are fine with me calling them faggots straight to their face. If you don't want a word to evolve and lose its original meaning that's fine, but then you better be ready to start facing the word in its original meaning.


You're comparing apples and oranges. One word meant a bunch of sticks, the other was originally a racist term. One was converted into a hateful term, one has always been. If you take out the evolved context of the word faggot it no longer holds any harm, hence why you should be able to say it to anyone. The word you listed however, has always had racist roots and therefore is an entirely different kind of word. I see what you're trying to say, though. I'm just pointing out that people are becoming way to sensitive to WORDS. Pretty soon we arn't going to be able to call anyone fat, obese, stupid, short, or tall. Instead it will just be "above average body mass" or some other sensitive term. When does it stop? If someone calls me white trash I really couldn't care less about it. It means the other person is either insensitive, jealous, or I've done something to anger them. In any case, I realize it's just a word and move on.
Basically here is my point: What should we call gay people? Homosexuals, gays, faggots? What makes the word faggot worse than homosexual? Connotation. What happens when we stop using the word gay and faggot? Those connotations get shifted onto the word homosexual. Then what? We will need to come up with another word. There will always be jerks and insensitive fools that will use words to hurt people, it's human nature.
I stand by my point earlier in my last post. If we stop using faggot as an insult, then is goes back to simply meaning homosexual, in which case there should be no problem describing someone who is ACTUALLY a homosexual as a faggot. It seems like you misinterpreted what I said as I would call them faggots to their face to mock them, that wouldn't be the case. It would just be another word to describe their lifestyle.


It's not apples to oranges. The bundle of sticks definition is correct, however, the way homosexuals got the name is because they used to use gays as kindling for fire. That's right...they used to burn gay people and treat them as nothing other than fire wood

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>> ^Tokoki:

So, you want to call african-americans "nigger" straight to their face?
>> ^Mcboinkens:

And I'm fine with not using the word faggot as an insult as long as homosexuals are fine with me calling them faggots straight to their face. If you don't want a word to evolve and lose its original meaning that's fine, but then you better be ready to start facing the word in its original meaning.



If they're ignorant(and smaller than me) then yes. That's one word that should go back to it's original meaning.

Although blacks have a better case for asking for care in using the word. Homosexuals might have been, and still are, discriminated against, but they weren't fucking enslaved.

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

Eminem is an idiot. >> ^Matthu:
Ahhh bullshit! Joe Rogan's a fucking faggot.
I really like the way Eminem drew the line in the movie 8 mile. He's battling and he points to the gay guy and says, "He's gay," then points to the douchebag and says, "You're a faggot."
People need to get way over themselves and let these words evolve, since, hate to break it to you, they ain't going away.



What makes you say that? He's a great entertainer and from his music he obviously gets satire and irony as well as one of the best rappers there has been in years. There was a real downfall of good rap music till he came out with some ridiculous stuff that was funny and fun. Sure he was as homophobic at times as an ignorant high schooler but he performed with the King of the Queens.