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Jamie Oliver shows Schoolkids how Chicken Nuggets are made

rklawton says...

First of all, Jamie says that this is a "really bad version of mechanically separated..." OK, so what's the usual way? How is it actually done?

Next, when Jamie performs this demonstration in the U.S., he introduces the subject by clearly stating that "this is not now chicken nuggets are made in the U.S."

Finally, I see little difference between how "chicken nuggets" are made and how sausages are made - or does Jamie Oliver not approve of sausages, either?

Truth be told, there isn't a meat product out there that kids wouldn't say "ew" and "gross" if they were forced to watch it being made from start to finish, so this particular demonstration just isn't all that impressive.

For the record: yes, I eat pretty much anything; yes, I think Jamie Oliver is an awesome teacher; yes, I appreciate what he's done for school food programs. I just prefer straight truth to exaggeration.

The Story of Bottled Water

notarobot says...

As baffled as I am by people spending so much money on bottled water, I think it is ignorance, not stupidity that has people paying money for bottled tap water. The same forces that have convinced people to put carbonated sugar water, big macs or other garbage in their bodies for over a generation. Advertising has kids begging their parents for sugar coated pork puffs in the cereal isle. There are ads on all the time for "beverages" like Beep (a drink loaded with sugar and canola oil) for breakfast. People have been being told to eat garbage by television, and other advertising mediums for years, and they listened.

I think people make bad decisions like paying for bottle water regularly and eating unhealthy foods not because they are too stupid to grasp the idea of tap water or healthy food, but because no one has explained the alternative to them. During his address to TED, I was shocked when Jamie Oliver showed that an elementary school class could not identify a potato.

The kids in that classroom aren't stupid. What's stupid is an education curriculum that allows french fries to be placed in a food group in their school's cafeteria.
>> ^Xax:
How sad. It's nothing short of astounding stupidity amongst the populace that bottled water has become such an epidemic.

TED: Jamie Oliver's TED Prize talk

ghark says...

>> ^Heartspark:

You missed the whole point. The whole reason from the START is why mass produced food started was because supply and demand could not keep up with making food from organic means. That is why organic food is expensive, it does cost more than mass produced food because more work is needed in the long haul to the store. Try farm grazing cows naturally for 300 million people and then wonder why meat cost you a paycheck each month. Sure you can make a hamburger NOW for the same price as a big mac and its healthier..
You simply can't have mass produced organic food, for healthy meals at home in todays world.
I have nothing against what he is doing, its Nobel and good he is taking a stance naturally. Its simply unrealistic goals..as of now.


Uh there are countries that have the climate to graze cows on pasture all year round and meat in them does not cost a monthly paycheck, i should know, i have lived in two (Aus and NZ). Some countries have harsher winters (the UK for example) and need to bring the cattle indoors so they survive the winter months, which is fair enough, it's about being practical. I never said everything had to be organic, that is just an argument you're making to try and sidestep the issue Jamie is talking about, which is that families need to start eating more whole foods in their diet and school lunches.

As far as feeding 300 million people organically, do you have a peice of lawn bigger than a few square feet? Do you have a veranda or balcony that gets the sun? You do realise you that you can create a garden in that space and grow some of you're own food if it really becomes an issue, all you need is water and a little knowledge on gardening - or would you be worried about getting your hands dirty? Feeding the world on organic food was never and will never be the issue, the problem is that people take the route of least resistance and would prefer to just get all their food at one place - the supermarket.

TED: Jamie Oliver's TED Prize talk

Heartspark says...

>> ^ghark:
>> ^Heartspark:
He has lots of bad points in that speech though.
For one he fails to understand lots of things about food industry. Simply put you can NOT in this day and age go back to provide natural food in everything. The reason you get a big mac for $1 and not $18 is because it's mass produced.
Supple and demand would simply not happen at all in the world he wants.
In fact, if you wanted to make a meal like he wants for every school in america to be healthy, you would simply bankrupt the school because it would send costs skyrocketing (esp when schools now are having a hardtime).
You have to understand, its not simply a matter of food, its a matter of peoples mindset. People in Asia don't think rice and fish are disgusting, because they eat it in lots of meals. In the USA lots of kids don't care for it at all (unless its taco bell for rice and fish sticks in the oven).
For his "utopia" to work, it would cost hundreds of billions of dollars, millions of jobs at stake. So yes, we can afford not to do it.

You don't seem to understand the food industry yourself, the fast food isn't just cheap because of mass production, it's because the corn/wheat/soy industries are heavily subsidised by the government. Secondly, you exagerate your numbers, a non mass produced hamburger only costs a few dollars, i can make a healthy burger at home for not much more than a big mac and i'm sure a lunch lady can do just as well as me.
Not sure what your perogative is, but you seem to be on the wrong track, i suggest you educate yourself a little on what real food is, and the reasons Jamie is doing what he is.


You missed the whole point. The whole reason from the START is why mass produced food started was because supply and demand could not keep up with making food from organic means. That is why organic food is expensive, it does cost more than mass produced food because more work is needed in the long haul to the store. Try farm grazing cows naturally for 300 million people and then wonder why meat cost you a paycheck each month. Sure you can make a hamburger NOW for the same price as a big mac and its healthier..

You simply can't have mass produced organic food, for healthy meals at home in todays world.

I have nothing against what he is doing, its Nobel and good he is taking a stance naturally. Its simply unrealistic goals..as of now.

TED: Jamie Oliver's TED Prize talk

Heartspark says...

>> ^billpayer:
Bid Mac's SHOULD cost $18. Then poor people would not eat them. We cannot afford the cost of meat = deforestation + Global warming. School kids woudl be much better of with less calories and heathier options, plus think of all the jobs in catering for the economy both in school/work and high street. Reverse the strife that the corporations have caused. Local markets and laocal resteraunts.



That would not happen, not even close. What you just described is the exact opposite of what would happen.
More farm land would happen for more crops (more deforestation) because not enough land to grow + harvest organic food for the whole population. Global warming has nothing to do with it, not sure why you even put that in there.

Children DO have a choice, they can bring own meals, they don't have to eat everything on the menu just because it is there. Thats a parents problem, not a food problem. How many families you see today making kids eat veggies during a meal like the did when parents grew up? not many

TED: Jamie Oliver's TED Prize talk

ghark says...

>> ^Heartspark:
He has lots of bad points in that speech though.
For one he fails to understand lots of things about food industry. Simply put you can NOT in this day and age go back to provide natural food in everything. The reason you get a big mac for $1 and not $18 is because it's mass produced.
Supple and demand would simply not happen at all in the world he wants.
In fact, if you wanted to make a meal like he wants for every school in america to be healthy, you would simply bankrupt the school because it would send costs skyrocketing (esp when schools now are having a hardtime).
You have to understand, its not simply a matter of food, its a matter of peoples mindset. People in Asia don't think rice and fish are disgusting, because they eat it in lots of meals. In the USA lots of kids don't care for it at all (unless its taco bell for rice and fish sticks in the oven).
For his "utopia" to work, it would cost hundreds of billions of dollars, millions of jobs at stake. So yes, we can afford not to do it.


You don't seem to understand the food industry yourself, the fast food isn't just cheap because of mass production, it's because the corn/wheat/soy industries are heavily subsidised by the government. Secondly, you exagerate your numbers, a non mass produced hamburger only costs a few dollars, i can make a healthy burger at home for not much more than a big mac and i'm sure a lunch lady can do just as well as me.

Not sure what your perogative is, but you seem to be on the wrong track, i suggest you educate yourself a little on what real food is, and the reasons Jamie is doing what he is.

TED: Jamie Oliver's TED Prize talk

Truckchase says...

>> ^Heartspark:
He has lots of bad points in that speech though.
For one he fails to understand lots of things about food industry. Simply put you can NOT in this day and age go back to provide natural food in everything. The reason you get a big mac for $1 and not $18 is because it's mass produced.
Supple and demand would simply not happen at all in the world he wants.
In fact, if you wanted to make a meal like he wants for every school in america to be healthy, you would simply bankrupt the school because it would send costs skyrocketing (esp when schools now are having a hardtime).
You have to understand, its not simply a matter of food, its a matter of peoples mindset. People in Asia don't think rice and fish are disgusting, because they eat it in lots of meals. In the USA lots of kids don't care for it at all (unless its taco bell for rice and fish sticks in the oven).
For his "utopia" to work, it would cost hundreds of billions of dollars, millions of jobs at stake. So yes, we can afford not to do it.


Think about the ACTUAL cost of not doing it. How many lives is it worth to save short-term jobs that could be recreated in other, newer sectors?

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TED: Jamie Oliver's TED Prize talk

robbersdog49 says...

Jamie Oliver just went from a mockney TV chef to a hero in my eyes.

There are so, so many TV chefs in the UK who use their fame to do nothing other than fill their own bank accounts. They chase michelin stars and have fancy restaurants all over the place but it's all me me me. Fair play Jamie, he obviously does care, and while I fully understand he's paid very good money to do his TV programs at least he's doing them about the right things. He's found fame and fortune by being good at what he does. He stands out from the crowd in the way he uses that.

I wish more people would do this, then maybe things would change.

Good luck Jamie, I hope it works.

Jamie Oliver Shows How They Slaughter Chickens

14087 says...

Sirex, the issue is that vegetarians think that we have grown beyond our savage past, and there is nothing we require from animal flesh that we can not acquire through agriculture and sufficient processing.

That being said, I am not a vegetarian, and I would kill anything that I eat, but I pay someone else to do it.

Meat is murder, delicious, delicious murder.

Oh, and bravo to Jamie Oliver (yet again) for the reality check. I strongly recommend his books, he wants everyone to cook more often, eat better, and be aware of where the food comes from.

Jamie Oliver Shows How They Slaughter Chickens

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