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Dignant_Pink (Member Profile)

"The Girl In The Window" Horrific Discovery Of Feral Girl

mauz15 says...

>> ^Sniper007:
I find it amazing that anyone at all (including neurological experts) can assume that they have such a complete understanding of the human mind that they'd feel confident enough to predict in advance the limit to which an individual can perform. Didn't the experts say she'd never walk? Didn't they say she'd never be able to interact or focus like a normal person? Haven't the experts ALREADY been proven WRONG, even when examining this specific case alone? Why would anyone ever believe that she can't be normal?
I think the error is somewhere between 'Ability' and 'Probability'. She has the physical capacity to do everything any other woman can do. No doubt. Ability is not the issue. The issue is Probability. She Probably WON'T attain those levels of competence based on the choices of those around her (first), and her own choices (second). The preceding statement is only reasonable based on our experiences with similar past cases. Even in those cases however, it must be acknowledged that some individuals may have had an ability to advance that was not fulfilled due to a lack of desire to advance.
Never underestimate the power of the human mind and will.


You are not taking into consideration many other factors. It is not only about probability and ability. For example, during the first 4 years of life, the brain of a child is very different from the brain of an adult or that of a 7 year old kid. One of the differences for example is the fact that a different part of the brain is used by 1-4 year olds when it comes to learning the basics of language. This is why kids are capable of learning language so quickly when compared to adults.

Another fundamental change that occurs during the first 4 years of life ( which I read that apparently is the period where human beings change the most, and at the fastest rate, than any other period in life, including adolescence) is the development of 'Theory of mind' this includes self awareness, a sense of self, the ability to realize your perception is not the same as the perception of other beings, etc. Many of these things depend greatly on factors that this girl has not learned (like language) or that probably did not experience enough during her first years of life such as her mother taking good care of her basic needs, so that her cognitive needs could flourish.

I agree with you that experts are probably assuming a lot of things, because there really isn't a lot of research on feral children since the cases are so rare, but you are making assumptions too:

"She has the physical capacity to do everything any other woman can do. No doubt. Ability is not the issue. The issue is Probability."

And this is based on what? Are you completely sure that the plasticity of the brain is exactly the same between an individual who had a normal development, and someone who was denied so much during an extremely important period in her life? Do you really have no doubt that the neurological connections are exactly in the same condition for this girl as that of another kid of her age? What is this 'no doubt' based on?

"The Girl In The Window" Horrific Discovery Of Feral Girl

thepinky says...

Sniper. Dude. You don't think that decades of neurological research qualify scientists to predict brain development? And when I say predict, I mean that they are pretty gosh darn sure about this. They aren't just guessing based on probablility that Dani will never be "normal". They KNOW that the brain develops language and social skills in certain parts by a certain time. People who miss the window of opportunity can't get it back. Excluding divine intervention, it's not a matter for debate. Her brain just isn't capable of traveling backward in time and developing all over again.

It's nothing personal.

>> ^Sniper007:
I find it amazing that anyone at all (including neurological experts) can assume that they have such a complete understanding of the human mind that they'd feel confident enough to predict in advance the limit to which an individual can perform. Didn't the experts say she'd never walk? Didn't they say she'd never be able to interact or focus like a normal person? Haven't the experts ALREADY been proven WRONG, even when examining this specific case alone? Why would anyone ever believe that she can't be normal?
I think the error is somewhere between 'Ability' and 'Probability'. She has the physical capacity to do everything any other woman can do. No doubt. Ability is not the issue. The issue is Probability. She Probably WON'T attain those levels of competence based on the choices of those around her (first), and her own choices (second). The preceding statement is only reasonable based on our experiences with similar past cases. Even in those cases however, it must be acknowledged that some individuals may have had an ability to advance that was not fulfilled due to a lack of desire to advance.
Never underestimate the power of the human mind and will.

"The Girl In The Window" Horrific Discovery Of Feral Girl

mauz15 says...

>> ^nibiyabi:
^Sorry sniper, but she'll never be normal. Cases like hers have helped us to realize just how crucial the first few years and even months truly are. She'll improve, but she'll never be able to attend collegiate-level schooling, and even achieving a high school diploma (or equivalent) would be exceedingly unlikely. She has a lifetime of depending on others for care and assistance ahead of her.


I am assuming most of them die young even after professional help is available to them right?

kronosposeidon (Member Profile)

"The Girl In The Window" Horrific Discovery Of Feral Girl

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Cops Beat Cute Girl Senseless

Asmo says...

Equal and proportionate use of force...

That is the rule we had to live by when I bounced in clubs over here in Aus and it's the same law that governs self defense, police conduct and any other situation where you find yourself threatened with violence.

Basically, depending on your circumstances and ability, you can respond to an attacker with an equal and proportionate amount of force. ie. a 5"2' girl being attacked in her home by a 6 foot man without a weapon has a fair degree of latitude, she can pick up a weapon if she believes she is in life threatening danger and there will be no repercussions.

It also precludes continuation of violence if you are no longer under threat, ie. gunning someone down who is running away after previously threatening your life is disproportionate and would get you in to a lot of trouble.

Now, not knowing US law, I'm going to go out on a limb and say unless that shoe was coated in anthrax, C4 or feral wookies, that cops response was in no way equal and proportionate, particularly once he restrained her (ie. was no longer in danger) and hit her twice on the back of the neck, head or shoulders region. In short, he is a disgrace.

When he goes to jail for assault I hope they stick him in gen pop. It'll teach him a little something about brutal excesses in force. If he survives, he might even be a better person for the experience...

A musical mind fuck (Music Talk Post)

Farhad2000 says...

Work PC, will do it later at home as well. Which has much more music.

SOMEONE SAYS "IS THIS OKAY" YOU SAY?
Confessions of a knife.

WHAT WOULD BEST DESCRIBE YOUR PERSONALITY?
Kooler then Jesus

WHAT DO YOU LIKE IN A GUY/GIRL?
A diasy chain 4 satan

HOW DO YOU FEEL TODAY?
Feel

WHAT IS YOUR LIFE'S PURPOSE?
Hear my dear

WHAT IS YOUR MOTTO?
Music to commute to

WHAT DO YOUR FRIENDS THINK OF YOU?
Troubles

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF YOUR PARENTS?
Open Your Eyes/Breathe Here/Chicken Bone Charm Bracelet

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT VERY OFTEN?
Sometimes you just can't win

WHAT IS 2+2?
All about the prophets

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF YOUR BEST FRIEND?
Unknown

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE PERSON YOU LIKE?
Triple Chromed Dipped

WHAT IS YOUR LIFE STORY?
Rare Earth

WHAT DO YOU WANT TO BE WHEN YOU GROW UP?
Good 2 Go/Rock That House Music

WHAT DO YOU THINK WHEN YOU SEE THE PERSON YOU LIKE?
I was born in the 90s

WHAT DO YOUR PARENTS THINK OF YOU?
Rumors and revelations

WHAT WILL YOU DANCE TO AT YOUR WEDDING?
Rumble rumble

WHAT WILL THEY PLAY AT YOUR FUNERAL?
Natty Dub

WHAT IS YOUR HOBBY/INTEREST?
Triptych (wow)

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF YOUR FRIENDS?
Dominator

WHATS THE WORST THING THAT COULD HAPPEN?
Better off as two

HOW WILL YOU DIE?
Feral kid (roflmao)

WHAT IS THE ONE THING YOU REGRET?
Lay it down

WHAT MAKES YOU LAUGH?
Michelangelo

WHAT MAKES YOU CRY?
Cremona, Main Title The Red Violin

WILL YOU EVER GET MARRIED?
The same parents

WHAT SCARES YOU THE MOST?
Melodie

DOES ANYONE LIKE YOU?
Mirage (ouch lol)

IF YOU COULD GO BACK IN TIME, WHAT WOULD YOU CHANGE?
Moonlight Sonata

WHAT HURTS RIGHT NOW?
Ride the mindway

What foxes do when they think no one is watching...

Daddy's Little Princess Is Wasted

phelixian says...

Wow they should have Attenburough narrate that shit:

"And here we have the feral-teenage-drunk-slut performing her traditional hang-over dance. Notice the lack of modesty brought on by delusions of beauty and an inflated sense of pride. Her strategically placed mating pigmentation will guide any lower IQ males in the vicinity towards her bursting-with-anger genitalia. Those with higher functioning brains steer clear and avoid eye contact, lest the crazed gaze causes them to vomit a little."

Daddy's Little Princess Is Wasted

8296 (Member Profile)

vairetube says...

I played drums for Feral Children on "The Second to Last Frontier" which scott recorded in seattle. I don't play with them anymore. I never listened to Animal Collective but after meeting scott i did, and it's pretty obvious the rest of the guys were influenced by it... AC is waaaay better overall, truly unique.

hi QM

In reply to this comment by complacentnation:
vairetube, what is the name of the band you're in?

I like this song, I respect Animal Collective for what they do, using the samplers and all but I'm a huge sucker for Noah's (Panda Bear) "solo" stuff much more. That kid has it down. And as far as I know they don't really even consider themselves musicians in the way that they're like - "oh, the next chord is an A minor" which I also find interesting. Lot's of good stuff come from folks with that mindset and some creative flair.

bamdrew (Member Profile)

Should Our Resident "Hater" Be Banned? (Wtf Talk Post)

CaptainPlanet420 says...

>> ^Issykitty:
Seriously, BAN. I can't tolerance his absolute brilliance. It's too much for me. NO MORE.


Hey there, feral. Ya held it in sooooo long, didn't you? And you thought "Aha! My time has come!" Well...I'll *quality this once I get my sad little power point back....but this hasn't gone as well for you as I'd hoped. You should not do the personal attacks, they still frown upon those in the TOS, I don't want to see you in trouble. And Islam is a religion, not a race...my grandfather was Islamic, so I don't appreciate the crossover. But thank you for trying to invoke it and bring attention to Islam's plight. Meow?



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