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I liked the Hunger Games (first movie) enough that I decided to read the books. OK, but the third one went off the rails a bit and overall I felt like it would be better to try to get the YA audience to read Fahrenheit 451, Brave New World, or 1984, all of which still hold up pretty well.

I haven't watched Divergent yet. Would you (or your wife) recommend watching the movie first and then reading (if I like the movie), or going straight to the books?

I finally started re-reading A Song of Ice and Fire, so this would probably have to wait a good while until I finish that, but I don't mind holding off if that would be the thing to do.

No, dumbassess....Here's a 'strawman' for yas all:

The terrorists are created by a highly influential and financed cabal of cunts who need attention drawn away from their fascist police-state vision of something worse than Fahrenheit 451, Brave New World, and Nineteen-Eighty-Four combined ever thought about being imagined, in order to prepare the world for an end game fist-fuck without lube and wrist-watches the likes of which Bradbury, Huxley, or Orwell could have never fucking imagined in their worst drug-addled nightmares, This potential anything-goes scenario enabled, by willing participants who think they have a clue ready to doubly-assfuck the gullible into thinking that sophistic mumbo-jumbo is some kind of cure.

Get a fucking clue people, you're all cattle to the conductors of the most twisted opera of catshit ever perpetrated on the civilized world.

Now: Are these the words of a "troll" or simply someone with a clue tired of reading the rambling retardation of passionate idiots??

Fahrenheit 451 was printed in the march april may 1954 issues of playboy but the video is wrong about it being the first place the story was shown. It had been published in book form 6 months prior.
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Fahrenheit 451 + Martha Stewart

i felt great to share this back in the day. it is my favorite science fiction movie. i also have the book and the audio book with Ray narrating it.

Everyone here seems to think that Fahrenheit 451 is a book about censorship, and that's a reasonable interpretation, but somewhat disappointingly it's not what Bradbury intended. Quoth Wikipedia:

"Over the years, the novel has been subject to various interpretations, primarily focusing on the historical role of book burning in suppressing dissenting ideas. Bradbury has stated that the novel is not about censorship; he states that Fahrenheit 451 is a story about how television destroys interest in reading literature, which leads to a perception of knowledge as being composed of "factoids", partial information devoid of context, e.g., Napoleon's birth date alone, without an indication of who he was."

Somewhat contradicting this stance is the fact that Bradbury later added an introduction to the book which specifically addressed censorship, and does indeed make this video seem ironic:

"There is more than one way to burn a book. And the world is full of people running about with lit matches. Every minority, be it Baptist / Unitarian, Irish / Italian / Octogenarian / Zen Buddhist / Zionist / Seventh-day Adventist / Women's Lib / Republican / Mattachine / FourSquareGospel feel it has the will, the right, the duty to douse the kerosene, light the fuse….Fire-Captain Beatty, in my novel Fahrenheit 451, described how the books were burned first by the minorities, each ripping a page or a paragraph from this book, then that, until the day came when the books were empty and the minds shut and the library closed forever. ... Only six weeks ago, I discovered that, over the years, some cubby-hole editors at Ballantine Books, fearful of contaminating the young, had, bit by bit, censored some 75 separate sections from the novel. Students, reading the novel which, after all, deals with the censorship and book-burning in the future, wrote to tell me of this exquisite irony. Judy-Lynn del Rey, one of the new Ballantine editors, is having the entire book reset and republished this summer with all the damns and hells back in place."

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OMG!!! Thats where I grew up, in fact if I were younger I would have went to that school. It was being built when I was attending Conroe High. I cant believe that this is on here, Fahrenheit 451 is one of my favorite books, these people are crazy. Not everyone in Texas is like that, it just takes a few crazies to make us all look bad.


its true, i went to high school in an even smaller texas town they forced us to read farenheit 451 and me and my english teacher would have really long public discussions are about william burroughs and charles bukowski and all the sick shit they write about and how much we love it. noone got the media called on them. its all good. every town has one or two of these.... though my debate partners mom threw a cow because we chose homosexuality as a topic.

OMG!!! Thats where I grew up, in fact if I were younger I would have went to that school. It was being built when I was attending Conroe High. I cant believe that this is on here, Fahrenheit 451 is one of my favorite books, these people are crazy. Not everyone in Texas is like that, it just takes a few crazies to make us all look bad.

^ Yes, BillOreilly, because wanting to ban Fahrenheit 451 is "free thought".

Anyone know how to coordinate google-bombs? (I think that's what they're called). Everytime someone types in the words Irony, Ignorant, or Devolution and hits "I'm Feeling Lucky" they should be directed to this video.

Anne Coulter looks like a horse and any man who would touch her is a zoophile.

Fahrenheit 451: Book Under Fire -more at 11

I don't know if you meant to confine this to novels or not, but I'm going wider:

Tao Te Ching - Lao Tzu
Dune (whole series) - Frank Herbert
Live from Golgotha - Gore Vidal
Macbeth - William Shakespeare
Cryptonomicon - Neal Stephenson

I'm actually in the middle of Cryptonomicon right now, but I'm already confident it belongs in that list. 5 is too short, anyway:

Catch-22 - Joseph Heller
Galápagos - Kurt Vonnegut
The Hobbit & LotR - J. R. R. Tolkien
The Name of the Rose - Umberto Eco
Fahrenheit 451 - Ray Bradbury

There's probably a couple dozen I've forgotten at the moment, and there's a lot of other fantasy novels I really enjoyed, like Roger Zelazny's "Chronicles of Amber". But that's a good start.

Ever read Fahrenheit 451? That's what they call The Mechanical Hound.

"That's sad," said Montag, quietly, (referring to The Mechanical Hound) "because all we put into it is hunting and finding and killing. What a shame if that's all it can ever know."