you're probably right... i made a longer list initially and realized it was entirely composed of writers. i couldn't decide if it's because those are the people i've paid the most attention to in my life or if its because the nature of success is so incredibly different for a writer than a ceo. >> ^dag:

Maybe it's only the inventors. Da Vinci, Edison and Jobs fit that bill. Deep thinkers and pure artists are pretty different. >> ^peggedbea:
I'm pretty sure kurt vonnegut was at least reasonably kind. He wrote so many books about the value of human kindness.
crispin glover is also unabashedly sensitive and kind and contains all the charm of someone who is not at all charming until they're speaking about something they love. i guess you could argue that he is not a genius, but then i would just tell you to attend a viewing for one of his insane art house films and stick around for the three hour Q&A he'll host when it's finished. genius.
oh i bet neil degrasse tyson is only slightly prickish, and only in the kindest most charming of ways.
>> ^dag:
Just as a thought experiment - can you name one who was well thought of as an all-around nice guy? Edison was an asshole. I've heard that Da Vinci was a real prick.>> ^quantumushroom:
But do geniuses need to be assholes?
No. No they don't.

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Maybe it's only the inventors. Da Vinci, Edison and Jobs fit that bill. Deep thinkers and pure artists are pretty different. >> ^peggedbea:

I'm pretty sure kurt vonnegut was at least reasonably kind. He wrote so many books about the value of human kindness.
crispin glover is also unabashedly sensitive and kind and contains all the charm of someone who is not at all charming until they're speaking about something they love. i guess you could argue that he is not a genius, but then i would just tell you to attend a viewing for one of his insane art house films and stick around for the three hour Q&A he'll host when it's finished. genius.
oh i bet neil degrasse tyson is only slightly prickish, and only in the kindest most charming of ways.
>> ^dag:
Just as a thought experiment - can you name one who was well thought of as an all-around nice guy? Edison was an asshole. I've heard that Da Vinci was a real prick.>> ^quantumushroom:
But do geniuses need to be assholes?
No. No they don't.

I'm pretty sure kurt vonnegut was at least reasonably kind. He wrote so many books about the value of human kindness.

crispin glover is also unabashedly sensitive and kind and contains all the charm of someone who is not at all charming until they're speaking about something they love. i guess you could argue that he is not a genius, but then i would just tell you to attend a viewing for one of his insane art house films and stick around for the three hour Q&A he'll host when it's finished. genius.

oh i bet neil degrasse tyson is only slightly prickish, and only in the kindest most charming of ways.

>> ^dag:

Just as a thought experiment - can you name one who was well thought of as an all-around nice guy? Edison was an asshole. I've heard that Da Vinci was a real prick.>> ^quantumushroom:
But do geniuses need to be assholes?
No. No they don't.

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Just as a thought experiment - can you name one who was well thought of as an all-around nice guy? Edison was an asshole. I've heard that Da Vinci was a real prick.>> ^quantumushroom:

But do geniuses need to be assholes?
No. No they don't.

..guess that's why Da Vinci's version is better known.

"I have long been a huge admirer of Jobs and consider him the da Vinci of our time."

What. WHAT. Words can not do justice to the idiocy of that sentence.

>> ^rottenseed:

>> ^criticalthud:
we're all a sum of our influences.
if it weren't for generations of culture, we'd all be in the woods grunting, eating worms, and trying to poke eachother with sharp sticks.
none of us are original. get over it

wow...um, I've got an original Leonardo Da Vinci to sell you. I mean, he didn't do it, but since we're all the same, you know...the sum of our influences, it's all the same.


ok. let's say i'm a drummer, and you're listening to me play music. are you just hearing me? or are you experiencing a smorgasbord of musical influences that include everyone who i've ever studied?

If you are listening to me play you are hearing a collective body of work, and my interpretation of it, played on an instrument that in it's own right is a collective product of decades of master craftsmen.
i'd be way lucky to be able to add to that art in an original sense.

it's really just another level of self-awareness. ain't none of us special. it's a lie

>> ^criticalthud:

we're all a sum of our influences.
if it weren't for generations of culture, we'd all be in the woods grunting, eating worms, and trying to poke eachother with sharp sticks.
none of us are original. get over it


wow...um, I've got an original Leonardo Da Vinci to sell you. I mean, he didn't do it, but since we're all the same, you know...the sum of our influences, it's all the same.

Woah, leave some innovation for the rest of us, Da Vinci!

All I wanted was a choice: logic or belief/faith. Do I feel the need to upend my fellow man (gay person), because I'm supposed to. I'm also not supposed to do anything to them. Yet believers use both sides as they wish when they need it or think it's needed, right?

I ask for little, proof. Proof of work and entropy. Like a plane flying in the sky. Practical, applicable, proof...

@bareboards2 is trying to calm things down, which is fine. I'm still trying to figure out why you keep ascribing to this notion that the Mormons are somehow "obviously" wrong, were as all the others are just fine. You speak of the "body of Christ", as though THAT is enough to have a religion. But, the guy sticks around for a few chapters and then is gone for the rest of time. Even Leonardo da Vinci has a longer history. If not for the Dark Ages we may have quite a few other people with history, but the books were burned by somebody.

I ask for nothing less than concrete evidence, because my fellow mans life may depend on it. I will listen to no others no matter there position unless they can agree to the same thing. This goes for all comments I read.

P.S.- I don't have a vendetta for the Mormon church (except maybe Glenn Beck) as it made me who I am. I assure you that the fog is just as thick on your side of the river; it's great to get a perspective that is free and only contains your observations.

Second, @bareboards2. Why would you think I'm arguing them out of their faith, only they can do that. Two, why do you allow him/her to wrangle others into religion. Same coin?

Lastly, I have a great conception of a "Christian" God, but I did decide not to impart my full knowledge less my posts become a thesis for a doctorate of the histories. The last thing I ask is that you shift your world view and ascribe to something that is not Christian (outright, just for a few months); make yourself uncomfortable. It's the best way to learn.

P.S.S.- That's it, I swear! There are only three people reading this anyway.

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I think Leonardo da Vinci may have had a hand in recording this.

@kronosposeidon: I think what you're trying to say is that whether it's a spray painted planet on cardboard, an abstract splatter painting, or a Da Vinci, there's an iconic value that makes art worthwhile to understand and/or emulate.

The paintings it is based on, thanks to basilisk on Reddit:

• Last Supper by da Vinci
• The Birth of Venus by Boticelli
• The Anatomy Lesson by Rembrandt
• On the right, Girl with a Pearl Earring by Vermeer; on the left one of the Portraits of Henry VIII by Holbein
• The Raft of the Medusa by Géricault
• The Death of Marat by David
• The Creation of Adam by Michelangelo

• The Son of Man by Magritte
• Composition with Large Red Plane by Mondrian
• one of Frida Kahlo's self-portraits
• Portrait of Dora Maar Seated by Picasso
• The Scream by Munch
• The 1899 self-portrait by Van Gogh
• Ten Marilyns by Andy Warhol

• Gabrielle d'Estrées et une de ses soeurs by unknown
• Maestá by Cimabue
• Salome by Caravaggio
• Olympia by Manet
• Liberty Leading the People by Delacroix
• Portrait of the Journalist Sylvia von Harden by Dix
• The Kiss by Klimt

• La Mariée by Chagall
• Las Meninas by Velázquez
• One of the Sunflowers by van Gogh, probably the Third Version

Exactly ElJardinero, I don't buy the explination that distributes have failed to pick it up because they're afraid they might receive too much free publicity.

It certainly couldn't be any more controversial then Religulous, which had a US distributor LAST YEAR. Or Dogma, or The Last Temptation of Christ, or The Life of Brian. Even The Da Vinci Code was more heretical then this.