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Introducing FarmBot Genesis

newtboy says...

As a person who actually grows much of my own produce, I can say definitively that many of their numbers are WAY off. They require one to pay one's self $100 per month for produce shopping to come up with their $1400 per year 'savings', but claim 5 minutes a day for 'harvest time'...good luck with that if you're not living on just lettuce and cauliflower...peas and beans will take 3 times that. They claim $6 for seeds, but the seeds I buy are over $3 per packet, so that's only 2 vegetables at a time...not much variety. I also note they have no cost for soil, the bed, fertilizers, pest control methods/time, disease control, etc. They also arbitrarily put the maintenance time at :30 min per month...that doesn't seem really realistic for an outdoor robot. Keep in mind that a single break down can mean the loss of an entire crop, depending on how it malfunctions. They also don't give an expected lifespan...or guarantee/warranty, so there's little way to know yet if it will last a single season, much less the 4-5 they say it takes to pay off.

It would have made much more sense to me if they had compared it to growing a home garden by hand, as that's what it's replacing, not the grocery store.

Don't get me wrong, I love this idea and would take one in a second if someone offered, I just don't see it as cost effective at $3-4K. Once the bugs are worked out so it lasts 10 years and the DIY cost is down to $1K(+-), then I'll think they have something pretty good that could also save people money. Being totally open source, I have hope that it will evolve quickly and be clearly viable in the near future. The time is coming when I won't be able to do the home farming I do today...it would be great to have a metallic yard slave to take over for me when that time comes.

eoe said:

@newtboy: Seems they thought of this argument. They put quite a bit of effort in refuting this.

Throwback on a Comeback: The Last Cassette Tape Factory

kir_mokum says...

the point is to be able to make cheap and very short runs to a physical medium. much like the split 7" in punk's haydays. (45s are also making a comeback right now in different scenes for the same reasons). there's also the rise of the future/retro aesthetic see vaporwave, outrun, seapunk, chillwave, etc. the rise of these things has a lot to do with the last remaining DIY philosophies that exist today. to dismiss it as "oh hipsters" misses the point.

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If Meat Eaters Acted Like Vegans

dannym3141 says...

I have to strongly disagree with the suggestion that animals are killed and tortured for my "taste preferences" and "pleasure".

It gives me no pleasure that an animal has to die for me to eat. My pleasure in the consumption of that animal is a fleeting, automatic chemical reaction triggered in my body. In an evolutionary sense, i only receive this pleasure because it prolongs the survival of my species to feel it.

Most of these arguments reek of over simplification and ignorance to the reality of the society westerners live in.

In ideal conditions, i would eat meat from animals that i tended, who died of natural causes (mostly old age i assume) which i would personally butcher. In reality, it is not possible and even if it were possible for one person, it would not be possible for every person - we have limited space, limited resources, limits placed by law, limits on our time. As well as the cost of the land, I would have to hope enough animals died naturally to sell enough humane meat to pay taxes on the land and maintain my farming equipment, buy grain for the animals and so on. Or maybe i could grow my own grain and use primitive DIY tools, but then i'd probably need help for all the farming i'd have to do every day and now i'd need enough animals to die to feed three, so more land, more grain... Oops, it looks like this is getting complicated doesn't it. Shall we keep going until we reach a society of 70 odd million people, or should we consider that the problem is far more complicated than comments here would care to acknowledge?

Furthermore gluten is often the primary protein source for vegans, but i have a disease that requires me to avoid that protein in entirety. The smug, holier-than-thou field radiating from certain commenters here will i'm sure extend far enough to condescendingly say "ah, but you can be a vegan and avoid gluten, you poor, uneducated, smiling murderer!" Yes, and you could live your life without ever being touched by the sun's rays, or sail a small sailboat without ever getting wet, not even a droplet. And how can we know what effect gluten-free-veganism may have on public health when it is extended to a population of 7 billion? What a dangerous experiment to salivate over - reckless and potentially harmful in a way that a butcher could never hope to be.

It would be wonderful if the world was ideal. I wouldn't have this disease, and all people of the world could enjoy their own 10 acre farm and eat only those animals whose time had come. Unfortunately when i am abroad, away from home, the only source of protein that i can entirely trust might perhaps be a roast chicken. And i will eat it, the only true pleasure from which i take is that i will not spend the next three days doubled up in bed.

There are people worse off than me, but i don't know enough about their situation to use it as a point in this discussion. To people like me, the language used by some people here makes me think of someone dancing around at a diabetics convention shouting "I can't believe you losers have to use insulin! I hope you all realise that drug addicts use needles!"

I reject any notion that these people have a moral advantage over me. Have any of them ever heard of walking a mile in another man's shoes, or does their narrow mind only reach as far as "ME"?

By the way, plants are also alive. Or is this about sentient life? Shall we move on to abortion then, if non-sentient life is ok to end? Shall we have the philosophical discussion about degrees of sentience and types of sentience and whether we can even know if a plant has its own brand of sentience? If yes, let's try to at least do it without you being smug and in return without me being sarcastic.

Worrying about how people treat vegans? How about the language used to describe people who have no choice in the matter, lest that choice be never leave your own house and eat only this very small list of things which you may or may not find too disgusting to stomach? Am i to live in misery and squander my life so that a chicken could have an extra 2 years to run in circles? This issue is not fucking black and white despite the attempts to paint it so.

Synchronized Cute Kittens In A Bowl

Sekrin says...

It's definitely a sink, if you look behind the kittens you can see the silver overflow vent and the tap is that silver curve in the middle of the top of the frame.

I've seen this type of sink (that really does look like a bowl resting on a worktop) before - they seemed to get mildly popular a few years back (popular enough for a DIY superstore like B&Q to stock them...)

I will definitely concede that it is a bit weird the first time you see one...

ant said:

That is a weird looking sink then.

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DIY Thermite Cannon - Yikes!

DIY X-MEN WOLVERINE fully automatic claws

DIY Thermite Cannon - Yikes!

Morgan Freeman narrates "life"

shagen454 says...

Funny thing about that guy is he has what looks like a Bastro patch on his modern backpack. Back in the day DIY hardcore kids would put band patches on their backpacks. Bastro was a mathy "post-hardcore" band that came before the now famous band Tortoise, they also played in Gastro Del Sol with Jim O'Rourke who is famous for his own solo career, playing in Sonic Youth, (dad rock band) Wilco and many others. So, this guy is a nerd but once upon a time before capturing his head on a pole - he was a cool nerd. OR maybe it's not a Bastro patch and I'm the only nerd, lol.

The weird virtual reality of Google's Project Tango

blacklotus90 says...

Yeah!! I remember setting up the wii remote head tracking and smartboard and playing around with them, amazing what he could do with a couple IR LEDs and the wii webcam. It's a shame he no longer publishes DIY home projects, but I suppose he's got bigger things to work on.

serosmeg said:

This guy is awesome. Look what he did with a wii remote back in 2008. Nintendo did NOTHING with it. AR on your tv in 2008? I was really looking forward to playing some first person shooters with that mod on a wii...
https://youtu.be/QgKCrGvShZs?t=3m44s

He worked on the Kinect and now he is at google with Tango.

How to build a very cheap home cinema. Very cheap ;)

oritteropo says...

Not a spammer, a self linker.

Max DIY on youtube is twotaps on Reddit (and twotaps76 here).

@Twotaps76 - you can't post your own videos here, you can either choose to discard it or else you will be banned.

Had you made an e-mail submission it would probably have done quite well.

lucky760 said:

@Twotaps76 doesn't look like spammer.

*return

How to build a very cheap home cinema. Very cheap ;)

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TheFreak says...

The DIY webpage makes it really easy to customize your own recipe.

I'd say it's definitely worth experimenting with soylent. Even as an occassoinal meal replacement, it's better than grabbing junk food when you don't have time to plan a meal.

dag said:

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That's awesome. I'm thinking about brewing my own, as it's hard to get here in Australia. There seems to be a real DIY movement with lots of recipes out there. I'd like to try it for a month.

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dag says...

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That's awesome. I'm thinking about brewing my own, as it's hard to get here in Australia. There seems to be a real DIY movement with lots of recipes out there. I'd like to try it for a month.

TheFreak said:

Name recognition and irony, I suppose.
My diet has been about 90% soylent for the past 7 months and I can't imagine going back. I've reduced my body fat, have more energy and more ambition, I'm healthier, better moods, spend less on food, waste less food, waste less time figuring out what to eat and when I eat the food I actually enjoy it tastes amazing.



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