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1. You are correct that there is not a rights violation, which is why none of these people are seeking damages. However, as soon as they allow themselves to be identified or searched, they are surrendering their rights under the 4th amendment. Furthermore, if the DHS officers state that they are being detained and are not free to go, and use force to make that so, then they are violating their rights for the same reason.

2. Many things have been "legal" in the past and viewed as "constitutional" that have long since been overturned. You don't have to dig too far into the historical grab bag to find some examples. Slavery, internment of Japanese citizens during WWII, poll taxes, spousal abuse, etc. Just because something is legal doesn't make it moral. Likewise, the findings of a particularly conservative and activist Supreme Court does not mean that an issue is actually in keeping with the constitution. Don't forget that our constitution as it was originally written included the proclamation that 'non-free' men only counted as 3/5ths of a person. I mean, you don't get more constitutional than that.

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There should be a youtube series with a judge or well qualified lawyer that explains exactly where citizens (and non-citizens) stand in common situations like these (DHS and DUI checkpoints, audio/video recording of police, searches of vehicles and clothing/bags, stop and frisk, requests for identification, etc.). People would benefit from a clear explanation both from a constitutional perspective as well as the perspective of any precedence set by previous trials.

And to take this one step further: This should be funded BY the government! Law enforcement should Want people to know the law.
The fact that officers use the imbalance of power in these situations to force people into a positions where they don't know whether they are breaking the law or not is disgusting. Confusion about the law should not be a law enforcement tactic.

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Feb 22, 2013-http://www.examiner.com/article/company-selling-targets-with-images-of-americans-to-dhs-for-firearms-training

Jeezus-This looks like a standard cellphone AP for all CIA, NSA, DHS, and any other initials entity's operatives to fuck with to do their job-Maybe it's time to dump googles n YT, too...

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Hollow point bullets are in common use in U.S. law enforcement. Police and sheriff deputies carry them. The DHS has 200,000 employees, that means ~2,000 rounds per employee. Since they have to train with the type of ammo they use ie hollow point. This sounds like about the right amount of ammo to qualify with your weapon at the range a couple times a year.

Um...so?
Cops dont use hollow point in the states? They use them here (Australia), fairly standard.
The hague convention is for MILITARY use...cops dont fall under that, fairly certain the DHS doesnt either.

dhs is a joke

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