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Smoking vs Vaping

AeroMechanical says...

The e-cigarettes I tried years ago when they first came out were crap and no substitute for what they have now, which has really only been around for a year or so in a convenient form. Probably there will be some decent studies in the very near future.

Part of the problem is that the drugstore stuff really doesn't work (and many are made by the tobacco companies, which is suspicious--they don't provide dosage information for one thing).

ed: Oh, and there are also a lot of people who don't quit nicotine, they just quit smoking and vape instead. Though it's too early to tell, vaping is almost certainly less harmful than smoking and may be effectively harmless. I don't know if you'd count that or not.

eric3579 said:

Anyone know of studies that show that its easier or that smokers are quitting at a higher rate due to vaping?

Smoking vs Vaping

AeroMechanical says...

For me, the primary thing was that I use vaping as a means to alleviate withdrawal and to break the routine of smoking cigarettes. Smoking was just an automatic thing I did at certain times (after a meal, after a cup of coffee, work breaks, etc.). I used to always carry a pack of cigarettes around with me, but now I leave my vaping equipment at home (unless I'm going to be gone more than eight hours or so). Really, I think getting over just the routine of pulling out a cigarette and smoking it is the biggest hurdle. It's always good to keep in mind that between emotional dependence and physical dependence on a drug, it's the emotional dependence that is by *far* the more powerful.

Granted, I could have painlessly weened myself off cigarettes in a couple weeks with vaping (or gum or whatever), but I think it's probably better to stretch it out a little longer, and the instant hit you don't get with inhalation is important. Six months was my goal, and I'm at about four now.

It's pretty great really. I can smell things again and food tastes better and generally breath easier. I quit smoking once before cold turkey, but that only lasted a year. When I finally put this down, if I do relapse (which seems much less likely), it will be back to vaping rather than smoking.

Smoking vs Vaping

TheFreak says...

Because nicotine itself is not terribly addictive. The main components of addiction to tobacco are now believed to be other substances.

Now consider the mechanical act of smoking; inhale, exhale cloud, reward.
Using a vaporizer reproduces the physical act that smoker's brains associate with the reward.

There does seem to be a period at the beginning of using a vaporizer, where there's a craving for cigarettes, perhaps because of the other addictive chemicals that are absent. But this craving isn't particularly difficult to overcome when you're satisfying the other elements of your habit. Not to mention, lungs clearing, sense of taste returning...

Then there's the final stage of using a vaporizer, which I've seen happen with others and I've experienced...you lower the nicotine levels further and further and then one day you start forgetting to use it at all. Your frequency of use may drop to nothing. Not always though. Some people go truely insane. We call them "scuba vapers". One of my buddies has earned the nickname "Darth Vaper".

eric3579 said:

How does that work? How does vaping make it easier to quit nicotine(smoking)?

Smoking vs Vaping

AeroMechanical says...

Vaping is a great way to quit smoking. If you want to quit smoking, do that. Don't buy the drugstore stuff (Blu, etc.), though. Look for a shop or website that specializes in it and buy proper equipment and quality e-liquid.

I prefer to make my own e-liquid because quality control is easier buying ingredients separately (reputable suppliers will provide test documentation from third-party chemistry labs per batch). Also, it's much cheaper to make your own.

A high quality setup (battery, tank, coils) costs about the same as a carton of cigarettes. Mixing my own liquid (not hard, three ingredients, just mix 'em up), I spend about a dollar a week on that when you average it out.

Blues Brothers - opening scene

poolcleaner says...

Them just out of the '70s, 1980s sensibilities. Jump the river with your cop motor and FIX that cigarette lighter. I need to watch Stripes now so I can watch the sexy military police have sex with the military fuck ups. Then I'll fast forward the decade and watch Ferris Buehler not go to school.

Film in the 80s taught me about anarchy and it taught me well. Oh wait, film as media is inherently anarchistic. Aw, fuck it. Society must just stink.

Brown Bear Has Heart Attack, Caught On Camera

police detaining a person for no reason

bobknight33 says...

The woman cop was a dick. Since he did not move from his stance were there a warm cigarette butt? She could have smelled his hand or breath for evidence o recent smoking.

Hoodie boy should have just complied and most likely he would have just been told to move on.

Yall Got A Cigarette?

Hey, Y'all Got a Cigarette? Remix

Hey, Y'all Got a Cigarette? Remix

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Cops Tazer Horse Thief, Then Beat And Kick Over 50 Times

newtboy says...

...You forgot some things.....Don't wanna get beaten nearly to death or killed by cops, don't steal horses, or beer, or a candy bar, or a cigarette, and don't be black, or Mexican, or white but poor, or wearing something red, or blue, or the number 13, or something that the particular officer finds offensive/inappropriate, and don't give cops dirty looks, don't talk back, don't refuse to speak, don't run, don't contradict the cops, don't commit any infractions, don't have a cell phone, don't reach for your wallet when commanded to produce ID, don't have anything in your hands, don't get targeted because the cop's having a bad day, don't be mistaken for a criminal, don't worry about your own safety, or life, or rights, or those of your family.
Sweet Zombie Jebus, buddy.
I'm incredibly tired of this insane, completely un-American, 'all accused criminals deserve death except the criminal cops' BS.

Esoog said:

Don't wanna get hurt? Then don't steal F'n horses! Tired of this bleeding heart, bs.

When the SWAT team rolls in...

When the SWAT team rolls in...

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