>> ^MrFisk:
Can we fix the audio on 5?


From YouTube:

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Assholes.

They throw cows in Texas? Is it to tenderize them?

>> ^peggedbea:
its true, i went to high school in an even smaller texas town they forced us to read farenheit 451 and me and my english teacher would have really long public discussions are about william burroughs and charles bukowski and all the sick shit they write about and how much we love it. noone got the media called on them. its all good. every town has one or two of these.... though my debate partners mom threw a cow because we chose homosexuality as a topic.

>> ^ctrlaltbleach:
OMG!!! Thats where I grew up, in fact if I were younger I would have went to that school. It was being built when I was attending Conroe High. I cant believe that this is on here, Fahrenheit 451 is one of my favorite books, these people are crazy. Not everyone in Texas is like that, it just takes a few crazies to make us all look bad.


its true, i went to high school in an even smaller texas town they forced us to read farenheit 451 and me and my english teacher would have really long public discussions are about william burroughs and charles bukowski and all the sick shit they write about and how much we love it. noone got the media called on them. its all good. every town has one or two of these.... though my debate partners mom threw a cow because we chose homosexuality as a topic.

That is one of the most beautiful of Bukowski's poem.... +1 so awesome.... Im drunk right now , and Im just listening for the first time Tom Waits reading it and its good

Thanks kulpims, I owe you a few when I finally hit 100!

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*promote

I can't believe this homeless hobo! I hear he's a Quaker still wearing Reebok pumps. His hobbies are less fun than sleeping on glass. His appearance is a personal affront to monkeys and Charles Bukowski. Too young to know shit and too old make something work. Cheer up, Ray Carver struck it by 55! And I'm pretty sure I've already shagged your wench (No offense either one of yous) in the parking lot of Fat Burger back in 96.

I can't believe they don't have this movie on Netflix.

If there are any Bukowski fans who haven't seen "Factotum" yet, I think you're in for a pleasant surprise.

Don't know. It was like a bunch of little cartoon Bukowski's. I imagine WB execs saying "we want you to make an episode that sends a message to the kids about alcohol" and the animators and writers saying "okaaaaaay..."

bukowski was the best asshole ever! and yep rotten, he would definitely have been flattered by MH's comment, so cheers!

don't listen to them, neuralnoise, Bukowski knew exactly what he was doing...er...that is at least he knew that he didn't know what he was doing. Either way, Bukowski would've loved to be called an "asshole" by plenty.

Bukowski is an asshole.

It is so good, allow me to post the poem itself:

We, Dinosauria

born like this
into this
as the chalk faces smile
as Mrs. Death laughs
as the elevators break
as political landscapes dissolve
as the supermarket bag boy holds a college degree
as the oily fish spit out their oily prey
as the sun is masked

we are
born like this
into this
into these carefully mad wars
into the sight of broken factory windows of emptiness
into bars where people no longer speak to each other
into fist fights that end as shootings and knifings

born into this
into hospitals which are so expensive that it's cheaper to die
into lawyers who charge so much it's cheaper to plead guilty
into a country where the jails are full and the madhouses closed
into a place where the masses elevate fools into rich heroes

born into this
walking and living through this
dying because of this
muted because of this
castrated
debauched
disinherited
because of this
fooled by this
used by this
pissed on by this
made crazy and sick by this
made violent
made inhuman
by this

the heart is blackened
the fingers reach for the throat
the gun
the knife
the bomb
the fingers reach toward an unresponsive god

the fingers reach for the bottle
the pill
the powder

we are born into this sorrowful deadliness
we are born into a government 60 years in debt
that soon will be unable to even pay the interest on that debt
and the banks will burn
money will be useless
there will be open and unpunished murder in the streets
it will be guns and roving mobs
land will be useless
food will become a diminishing return
nuclear power will be taken over by the many
explosions will continually shake the earth
radiated robot men will stalk each other
the rich and the chosen will watch from space platforms
Dante's Inferno will be made to look like a children's playground

the sun will not be seen and it will always be night
trees will die
all vegetation will die
radiated men will eat the flesh of radiated men
the sea will be poisoned
the lakes and rivers will vanish
rain will be the new gold

the rotting bodies of men and animals will stink in the dark wind

the last few survivors will be overtaken by new and hideous diseases

and the space platforms will be destroyed by attrition
the petering out of supplies
the natural effect of general decay

and there will be the most beautiful silence never heard

born out of that

the sun still hidden there

awaiting the next chapter

-Charles Bukowski, from The Last Night of the Earth Poems, 1992

The documentary the excerpt is taken from the documentary "Bukowski - Born into this" which is a must see. must, really must, really.

Who cares about a lot of nothing? Why do I want to read all that dribble? Bukowski is a moron. I hate poetry like that. Bleg. Can we stop quoting shit now?

Just to start this comment off: This is all in the fun of debate. I'm bored at work...it's friday, and I need some stimuli to keep occupied.

I did leave that part out of my quote, and I am glad you bring that up. I'm not bashing on Carlin for being old. Bukowski was an old coot, just as I'll be an old coot (already am to the really young folks).

The poem starts off with:
"we are always asked
to understand the other person's
viewpoint
no matter how
out-dated
foolish or
obnoxious.

one is asked
to view
their total error
their life-waste
with
kindliness,
especially if they are
aged."

He goes on to explain that, although, we are asked these things, it's not my fault they have aged so poor and lost their connect to the world, it's theirs ("age is the total of our doing"). Carlin definitely hasn't wasted his life. Personally I don't think this poem has anything to do with what I said about Carlin not connecting with the world these days. If it does, then the poem is saying "hey, it's not my fault".

From a young age, probably too young when I think about it, I have been watching Carlin blow people's minds with his famous rants that would touch on relevant things to the times. He shaped my appreciation for social satire and that sense of skepticism but it just seems like with his brand of comedy, if he's not in touch with things (other parts of this routine show this too) then his comedy isn't effective anymore.

Maybe I'm just saddened to see a legend beyond his prime.