i think you guys are missing the point of this video.this video was not produced for YOU.

this is a dog whistle video for those who identify as "right" leaning politically,and may be on the fence in regards to the alt-right.they may adhere to more conservative and traditional values but find the alt-right a tad to extreme,a tad too racist and neo-fascist.

and they most likely already find "leftists" and "liberals" offensive to their political sensibilities.

and here we have a video showing "lefties" perpetrating violence on innocent,rightwing by-standers..you know..their peeps.

so you watch with indignation and disbelief,while the rightwingers watches in horror and fear.this video is meant to do just that:instill fear and prompt a person to action and to view this action as righteous self-defense.

this is identity politics,pure and simple.

and now we have TWO extremists groups growing,and BOTH are convinced of their righteous convictions that THEY have a RIGHT..no..a DUTY..to perpetrate violence in the name of their ideology.

well,it is not EVERYBODY..

yeah..no shit sherlock.we get that.
not everyone is a neo-fascist,racist,super white nationalist.

nor are they all communists and black bloc anarchists.

but it IS those two groups who have adopted extremist ideologies that in their little pea brains have given them the moral authority to fuck some people up.

and THIS fucking video is a goddamn recruitment video for the neo-fascists!

communists and black bloc anarchists on my left..
racist neo fascists on my right..
here i am...
stuck in the middle...

*related=https://videosift.com/video/ANTIFA-is-a-major-gift-to-the-right

It's just so much easier to lie, isn't it? Or at the very least to allow yourself to be taken in and believe a lie because it challenges your fast-held, dogmatic belief system, no?

FYI: The so-called "black bloc" of anarchists who perpetrate these acts of vandalism during peaceful protests are in no way, shape or from part of OWS. There is plenty of collected first-hand and anecdotal evidence now that the "black bloc" which sought to infiltrate and create an agenda within OWS was actually funded and promoted from without by the very same type of people who posted this video here on VS (ie, those who promote a rich, tax-enabled, elite class to rule over all other Americans).

The "black bloc" has since been ejected and disavowed by OWS to eliminate the presence of police/political agent provocateurs from causing further harm to the avowed peaceful intent of the OWS movement.

Don't be fooled and please keep your eyes open. Peace.

Watch OWS Infiltration by Unscrupulous Liars

It is very possible, as @ChaosEngine points out, that these cops are simply partaking in the protest on their time off. Cops are people too, something a dangerous amount of people prefer to ignore.

That being said, infiltration of opposition movements is one way to stifle them. Here in Switz Nestlé went to court in 2008 for hiring private security agents to infiltrate an anti-capitalist organisation that was writing a report on Nestlé's actions throughout the world (article). This, with the passive complicity of the state police, who knew what was going on and had access to the information being gathered. Needless to say, Nestlé won the court case on legal technicalities.



_{(on a side note, fuck the black bloc tactics, that shit completely ruins protests' credibility.)}

I have to admit I scanned over your description, then watched the video. Sorry about that. You've got a very good point about the black bloc getup. Both because they are the group that is more likely to instigate rioting, and because it doesn't seem right for a police officer to cover his face on duty for the purpose of hiding his identity. But now I'm curious, what's the political shirt? Is the El Jefe shirt a reference to Castro or something?

That is why I wrote that there is no evidence that I see. Regardless, cops walking around with people looking like Black Bloc is very suspicious. The other cop is wearing a very political shirt. If they were undercover... why are they not acting more like under cover cops ie everyday joes? Instead they suggest that they are politically motivated.>> ^entr0py:

Yep, that was definitely a video of some cops walking around and riding bikes without uniforms. Not really the solid evidence of wrongdoing I was hoping for.

The Canadians here and anyone else paying attention to the G20 riot in Toronto last year shudder at this. Deja vu all over again. Saturday, the cops let the "black bloc" (white kids trashing storefronts) do their thing.

Sunday, the cops responded with the savage beatings/kettling actions.

Seeing it once looks like an awful mistake. Seeing it a second time... troubling.

>> ^marbles:

Police were ordered to stand down as London burned:
...
According to eyewitnesses to the initial riots in Tottenham, police were seen “standing back and allowing rioters to cause havoc,” a trend that continued during subsequent nights before Prime Minister David Cameron ordered 10,000 extra police officers to patrol London last night.
This has now been confirmed by sources within Scotland Yard who said police were ordered to “stand and observe” even as brazen acts of violent crime were committed against both people and private property, a directive which prevented them from arresting any of the troublemakers.
...
The police’s inadequate response quickly led to calls for martial law, curfews and the use of water cannons on streets in England for the first time, a power that Prime Minister David Cameron has now authorized.
Britain’s most widely-read newspaper The Sun ran a poll today which found that two thirds of Brits support the use of rubber bullets to deal with rioters, while 33 per cent supported the use of live bullets.
“Curfews are backed by 82 per cent, using tear gas got 78 per cent support and Tasers 72 per cent,” states the report.

it's anything but senseless. the operative word is DIRECT action. and the ethic is that no person or personal (there's difference between personal and private property) property is destroyed. the targets are clear, financial institutions, multi national corporations, the police, the military. the state. not people or their belongings.

the message is also clear, it's written in spray paint on the sides of barricades. the insight and societal critique is quite clear and easily accessible. there are libraries and warehouses full of the literature, and houses and collectives full of the living message and the people sharing their visions and stories.
what kind of message of does a bunch of stinky kids sitting in a circle send? "we don't like what you're doing, but you said we have to stay here, so ok!" that's not at all productive, and will never change anything. after 3 generations of peaceful sit-in style protests, what the fuck has changed?

this kid did it get right though, the media narrative is designed so that you don't see the message, all you see is "senseless" violence. so the anarchists look like a lynch mob.

i think the black bloc has the target wrong, the media should be the first thing we throw bricks at.

>> ^peggedbea:

fuck those hippies. if they had ALL gotten up and smashed shit, joined in the black bloc.. that really would have SAID something.
you're right to protest is a sham, expressing your dissent how the oppressors tell you you are allowed to express dissent changes nothing for future generations.. NOTHING. nothing changes without direct action, without disrupting business as usual and these lazy, self righteous hippies aren't changing shit.
on the other hand, that black bloc reminds people that they really are so sick of the status quo they do want to blow up military recruiting centers and smash cops cars with baseball bats, oh canada!


What kind of message does smashing shit send besides a general cry of discontent? What kind of constructive criticism or insight on the inequities of modern times does burning a police car provide? What positive change does it engender, what good does it do for the rest of humanity?

Societal problems are multifaceted and complex. Simply destroying something is not a solution. The world needs thinkers, not a bigger lynch mob. Fuck your senseless violence; It brings nothing but chaos and terror.

fuck those hippies. if they had ALL gotten up and smashed shit, joined in the black bloc.. that really would have SAID something.

you're right to protest is a sham, expressing your dissent how the oppressors tell you you are allowed to express dissent changes nothing for future generations.. NOTHING. nothing changes without direct action, without disrupting business as usual and these lazy, self righteous hippies aren't changing shit.

on the other hand, that black bloc reminds people that they really are so sick of the status quo they do want to blow up military recruiting centers and smash cops cars with baseball bats, oh canada!

g8/g20 summits are fucking sham/show. the real decisions have already been made else were. waste of money as far as i'm concerned and an ironic one at that seeing as how the stated purpose of this summit was deficit reduction.

i'm all for black blocs and the destruction of property, but there are standards. you don't cause physical harm to anyone, and you don't destroy personal property (there's a difference between private property and personal property... like, it's great to throw bricks at banks but you don't spray paint an innocent civilians house).

i am totally unconcerned with the "destructive minority" "ruining it" for "peaceful protesters". you're "right" to protest is bullshit, "you can say whatever you like as long as you don't disrupt business as usual", if you don't disrupt business as usual then what is the point??? there is a time for direct action and i'm pretty sure now is as urgent a time as any.

as far as agent provocateur's are concerned, SOAR and infoshop are saying no evidence of agent provocateur's this time around as far as they see.
here is the statement from SOAR.
there's more articles about it from the anarchists but i'm too lazy and hurty right now, you can find some on infoshop.org if you care to search.

oh i'd like to see the g8/g20 focus on fucking itself.

i'd go about solving the worlds problems by eliminating the "state" and posing an alternative to rampant capitalism and rejecting authoritarianism and oppression in all forms.

@shogunkai : Oh you're so tough, you think being punched in the face is nothing... that does not diminish how wrong this is in any way. A police officer should NOT punch a reporter who is doing NOTHING but filming what is going on. PERIOD. So, it's ok that they punched him in the face, but maybe a kick to the groin would be too much? Where is your line.

Retarded.

And you can see with the horse video that he was already on the path and the horses rode over him.

Gotta love the people here standing up for this sort of shit behaviour.

However, I dislike the tone the video took in regards to the black bloc behaviour, that's just bullshit, that doesn't help anything or anyone. That's outright thuggish bullshit that shouldn't be condoned (which the video pretty much did).

That is the whole point, they didn't engage the black bloc, but they did attack reporters and arrested peaceful protestors.

You don't think that's oversimplifying things a touch?

You've got the police lines on one side, the bloc block rampaging on the other, and a sea of protesters in the middle. The truth couldn't be that the few city police there were available to pursue the black bloc earlier were just inadequate and late? The truth couldn't be that the black bloc dispersed into the protesters before the city police could respond. It couldn't be that the black bloc fully planned on the police responding to their actions and intended to do their damage and then hide before the police response?

And yes, it is some kinda of crazy, because it was completely unexpected from Canadian government!

Oh right, now it makes sense. This is EXACTLY what the government wanted all along. The entire mess with the black bloc plays right into their hands. The only thing standing in Harper's way was finding someway to sway public opinion against himself and his government.

@bcglorf

That is the whole point, they didn't engage the black bloc, but they did attack reporters and arrested peaceful protestors.



And yes, it is some kinda of crazy, because it was completely unexpected from Canadian government!

We need an *awesome tag for this.

So the summary I get is this:
1. No blame at all is to be laid on any of the peaceful by-standers and protesters who, like this guy, just stood around and watched or took pictures of the black bloc criminals as they burnt, trashed and looted the area.
2. The police are at fault for not trying to engage the black bloc.
3. The police are at fault for trying to engage the black bloc.
4. The black bloc were probably connected to the government somehow.

That is some kind of crazy.

I see a radically different picture.
1. The 'peaceful' protesters lose the defensive claim to peaceful assembly when the buildings and property immediately adjacent to them gets destroyed, looted, or is set on fire. They are then part of an active crime scene, and the police DO have the right to remove them from the vicinity, whether they came to protest peacefully or not.
2. The police did not engage the black bloc when they were far from their lines, because they were ordered to hold a line. The police did engage the bloc when they came in close among the peaceful protesters.
3. The black bloc's goal is incite anger and hostility against the police and government. Blending into a peaceful crowd to hide from the police accomplishes the goal. The police are damned if they go after the bloc, and damned if they don't.
4. Some police officers get tired of seeing this crap and use the furthest extents available to them against these tactics.

>> ^Krupo:

Interesting, 3 minutes in the cops push back their cars.
"You can't stop a hurricane."
Oh dear, geniuses.
Hehe, I like how she considers the Black Bloc types Accused Agent Provocateurs... jury is kind of out on that.
AHAHAHA - last two minutes - he arrives from Ottawa, and is self-identifying himself as Black Bloc... and then calls the police brutal. Comedy.


Good catch - that was a hell of a comment. These crazy police maneuvers against the peaceful protestors gets my blood boiling, but so does the crew that uses every G20 as an excuse to light shit on fire.