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Mom Lashes Out At "Scumbag" Judge - Sent Kids to Jail for $

Porksandwich says...

>> ^xxovercastxx:

Not to defend the judge or the "war on drugs" at all but, if the kid killed himself over going to JH, he had bigger issues. It's sad that he didn't get help but that part isn't the fault of the judge.


At some point it isn't, however......over punishing petty crimes even if he didn't take bribes for it is bad. Add in taking money for it, makes it worse. He had incentive to send people who were obviously not meant to be there away for crazy amounts of time given the "crimes" (which are highly debatable and subjective). It's not just the judges responsibility or for that matter a jury's responsibility to send people away for as much time as possible, but also to make sure the person is mentally capable of understanding that they committed a "crime" and that the punishment given them will correct the problem. If you got a guy who has no record, has a trivial offense for a multi-offender..but one that for a first time offender is so minor as to be laughable. The scare of being in front of the judge would often times correct the issue, but if not, they hand out probationary periods and mandatory drug tests to show them how inconvenient their life can become if they keep up with the drug path.

He chose, for money, to skip all other avenues at his disposal on a first time offender with a very very very very very very minor non-violent offense and sentence him with time in juvenile detention. I mean that alone could very well ruin your chances at anything since anyone who knows you spent time in juvenile detention is gonna wonder how fucked up you are...since historically this is a place they put the too young to be tried as adult whack jobs....or the kids who never seem to attempt to turn it around and keep stealing cars or mugging people.

And to think that if he had probated the kid, there would have been a chance to find out the kid had mental issues? Maybe he was bipolar or schizo. Many doctors find that bi-polar sufferers tend to self-medicate via drinking or drugs. The kid wasn't given a chance to be diagnosed, he was stuck straight into the worst possible place someone with a fragile mental state should be stuck...no "alternative" was offered him...it wasn't a choice anyone but the judge could have made. And he made that choice for dollars in his pocket, condemned a kid with a potentially fragile mental state to a living hell for someone that age...who came out broken. Because why bother? He was shown that a judge will not show leniency he will put you away for as long as possible, whether it's the best option or not. I mean seriously, that is a system that promotes you "die by cop" every time you break the law..otherwise you might spend life in prison putting cash in some judges pocket.

It is most definitely the fault of the judge, and it's even more so if the judge didn't have him mentally evaluated or the government didn't try to help the kid out when he got out. That is all on the judge, he exacerbated this kid's problems by an immeasurable amount.

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Parents Stop Carjacking to Save Baby

rychan says...

As a parent of a child that age, I don't blame the parents in the least for this. They're trying to keep their baby comfortable and warm by having him in the car seat with the car's heater on. They didn't step more than 20 feet away from their car. You can't live your life paranoid that people are going to literally jump out of the shadows and steal your baby.

VideoSift, you are so bipolar. One minute you're saying it's ridiculous how over-protective society has become for children, and the next minute you're blaming the victims for a ridiculous carjacking.

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Porksandwich says...

@NetRunner

I guess the point I was trying to make was that I have personally seen the system fail in the last 6 months. My brother was a fucked up mess mentally, and to this day is still irrational to the point that it's like trying to talk to a wall on many topics......especially topics that landed him in the court system. He's not quite as irate as he was, since he got the shit kicked out of him so bad in prison holding (contempt of court charge and was held until his trial could be completed and him sentenced, got probation). He was beaten by 5-8 guys, which they've only charged 2.....broke his shoulder bad enough that they thought he'd need surgery to repair it for the first couple days after it happened. He now has a virtually unusable arm, he can't lift it even as high as his should and there for awhile he couldn't grip anything or raise it beyond his waist. He was also knocked unconcious and had his head split open. And the kicker here was that prior to this they kept him in solitary due to his outbursts related to his mental condition. Within 24 hours of being put into the public areas of the prison, this happened to him. And they didn't press charges until he brought it up with his probation officer and they had no record of it when he mentioned it. They also withheld pain medications....and have now refused to pay medical expenses for what happened in jail...they've even billed him for the trip to and from the hospital for treatment.

Now....this incident could have been prevented a minimum of 3 months ago when they sent him to a mental facility in another city ...for evaluation. They told my parents he was going to be evaluated for a mental disorder (because this happened in the past and even though he went to months of treatment they never corrected it, just covered it). It turned out, the only thing he was being evaluated for was mental competency....does he know right from wrong. That's it. They didn't confirm if he was bipolar like previous diagnosed, or borderline personality disorder like previous diagnosed....or schizophrenic like they thought he was before bipolar was the diagnosis. So they took someone who had previously been diagnosed with a mental disorder, tested him for competency, held him in jail and on house arrest due to the mental disorder, and put then him on trial untreated for his mental disorder. He was put back into jail when he failed to take medications while on house arrest. What sane, rational thinking person would refuse to take a pill a day so he could stay in a house where he can eat regular food, sleep in a bed, take showers regularly..etc? And for that matter, what sane rational thinking person would chew out a judge and then refuse to take a piss test and land himself in jail in the first place when they were going to let him go bail free?

There was ONE, just ONE sheriff in the whole court building that took it upon himself seeing that my brother was not thinking properly...to try to get him in and out of the building without arresting him. All of the others wanted to take him down as soon as he left the court room...he told them no and that he would take responsibility for it. And from there on, everything else was an utter failure. The court system that could force treatment on him to get him back to normal didn't do it, and they are the only ones who can unless you get power of attorney over someone through a lengthy 6+ month process that costs a nice chunk of change.

There's just a near complete lack of division for criminals aside from the worst crimes such as rape, child crimes, and murder...after that..everyone is a criminal whether they truly understand their guilt or not or whether they can be "cured" or not. Personally after seeing what my brother has had happen to him, I think I'd rather be dead than go to prison on any charge......they don't foster anything but breakdown physical, mental, or emotional in those places.

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kronosposeidon says...

One of my favorite Biblical passages, Exodus 32:26-28:

32:26 Then Moses stood in the gate of the camp, and said, Who is on the LORD's side? let him come unto me. And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together unto him.

32:27 And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.

32:28 And the children of Levi did according to the word of Moses: and there fell of the people that day about three thousand men.

That's right, God told the Levites to kill family members, friends, and neighbors. And by God they did it, thoroughly. 3000 murders, all at the behest of a bipolar deity.

Still, I can understand why God is a mass-murdering son of a bitch. We made him in our own image.

Stephen Fry on Manic Depression

Tymbrwulf says...

Fixed your spelling errors, monk. He said cyclothymia, not psychothymia(but psychothymia definitely sounds cooler).

When I was studying during my Psychiatry rotation I spent some time with depressed and bipolar patients. Their lows are not like a low you and I can imagine, and their highs make them feel like they're the kings of the world.

You can have depression, bipolar, but unfortunately there is no disease that makes you feel happy all the time

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Man tries to break his cousin out of a mental hospital

direpickle says...

^Say you're manic-depressive, bipolar, or what have you. You have good days and bad days. The bad days are bad. You want to die, to kill yourself. On the good days, life's all rainbows and lemon drops and you can't imagine why you would feel that way.

Is it the ultimate crime if someone forcibly keeps bad-day you from offing yourself? What if they make you get treatment to help balance you out?

Mel Gibson Audio Tape Released!

Porksandwich says...

Untreated mental conditions are fun to deal with. Bipolar is one of those things where if the person can hold it together in front of cops and judges and keep from getting violent...they can go on for years flipping back and forth between super nice dude, normal, and super insane pissed off guy until something gives. Either end up killing themselves, break in front of someone who can force treatment on them, or a myriad of other things. Age seems to worsen the condition. Just another reason we need universal health care, because then there's no excuse to not be treated once diagnosed especially if you are a danger to yourself and others through substance abuse as a coping mechanism (drunk driving, impaired driving via illegal drugs).

I have a brother with a bipolar disorder and I suspect it comes from my moms side of the family because as she's gotten older she shows more symptoms and a lot of the males on her side of the family have killed themselves. So I suspect one day my brother will end up in the same boat because he won't take any medication prescribed even if it's something he requests specifically....saying that the government is trying to get him to take chemicals..blah blah. All that paranoia shit that comes with bipolar. No one can make him take medications unless he becomes loud, obnoxious and has the appearance of being on the verge of violence by ranting and stalking around....which he learned from experience when the cops took him away.

So........having all that experience with my brother's condition and how he reacts. This recording sounds familiar. Irrational complaints that skip all over the place with a lot of repetition of the same exact argument over and over. If she had tried to reason with him much, I suspect he'd just repeat it over and over until she stopped...or he'd have hung up. It's like an irrational "fight or flight" response to stupid things or "out of the blue" things that didn't seem to bother the person the day or week before.

I suspect an overdose is in Mel Gibson's future, only way he can see to "deal" with the demons...because he's not sick like everyone keeps telling him he is...they're just out to get him.

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jwray says...

What a douchebag. His career pretty much reached its zenith in 1995 and then had nowhere to go but down while he brooded about it and became an alcoholic/druggie/fundie with bipolar disorder. Like everything, a combination of genetic and environmental factors. Free will is a a subjective feeling with no basis in physics.



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