@gwiz665
this doesnt even fit into any definition of religion.
how you extrapolated religion from this video is a stretch of logic.
disagree with premise? thats fine.
calling it religion? not a chance.i dont see any dogmatic approach based on doctrine.do you?

which brings me to @Engels commentary.
this video proposes an alternative way of dealing with bi-polar.this alternative has been proven to work in some cases.
does this mean that we should dump modern psychology?
well this video does not make that assertion.

it simply offers an alternative way of dealing with people in crisis.
who are you to judge the validity or success of something that may work for some people?

or has psychology answered all the questions pertaining to consciousness and i just missed the memo?

i understand your skepticism concerning methods such as represented in this video but as @eric3579 suggested.if you have never experienced:depression,mania,psychotic episodes then you are already at a disadvantage in your understanding.

medication is not the end-all be-all of answers.sometimes compassion,understanding and empathy are far better fascilitators in helping a person overcome episodes of depression or mania.

when we consider just how prevalent diagnosis and medication have become:
http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pmed.0030185

we should all stand up and take notice.
or do you feel the 1 in 5 numbers are correct?
that even pre-teens can be bipolar?
and if so.could you please tell me the conclusive test a psychologist uses to determine if someone is bipolar?

i am in no way by my commentary dismissing the exceptional works psychology has brought to the human table.i am just saying that it is still a work in progress and the field of psychology has not answered every question.

on a side note.freud along with his nephew edward bernaise helped create mass marketing and propaganda systems.
so....yeah.fuck freud.

People get over their ignorance through discussion and gathering of information...

This happens to be a topic that I personally don't have my mind made up on. I'm sure some people might call me ignorant. But I've known a few transgender people and, even after operations, hormone treatments, name changes, etc, they were still had significant mental health issues.

Sure, that's anecdotal... Maybe that's not the case on average. And I'm sure that growing up "the wrong gender" could plant some serious seeds of long term depression or set the stage for being bipolar... But based on what I've read and what I've experienced, I'm not yet willing to say that being transgender is perfectly ok and healthy.

That being said, if someone wanted to live their life that way, I wouldn't stand in their way.

>> ^grinter:

>> ^probie:
>> ^grinter:
"8", "1", "9.5" "10", ..what is he? Bipolar or something?

Yes, he is.

Rea/ly? Wow!, a man in his position, as succesful as he is?
He should speak publicly about this problem... I don't know, maybe make a video or something.
He is in a position to really increase public awareness and understanding.
He could do a lot of good.


You could have been kidding, your sarcasm here is wildly misplaced. Or maybe it's that stupid sarcasm button and the fact that people rely on it too much...

>> ^probie:

>> ^grinter:
"8", "1", "9.5" "10", ..what is he? Bipolar or something?

Yes, he is.


Rea/ly? Wow!, a man in his position, as succesful as he is?
He should speak publicly about this problem... I don't know, maybe make a video or something.
He is in a position to really increase public awareness and understanding.

He could do a lot of good.

>> ^grinter:

"8", "1", "9.5" "10", ..what is he? Bipolar or something?


Yes, he is.

"8", "1", "9.5" "10", ..what is he? Bipolar or something?

Being bullied a lot as a kid led me to develop severe social phobia starting at 17, ruining whatever was left of my social life during my twenties and also helped me drop out of college, twice. After two years of therapy as an adult, I can deal with social anxiety a lot better, but I probably won't be able to function socially 100%.

I was also bullied at home by one of my older brothers who, only later in life as a father of three, found out he's bipolar and now takes medication. I love him, he never physically bullied me, it was mostly psychological warfare with that guy, picking apart any shred of self esteem I had as a kid and meticulously crushing it every chance he got. He sometimes humilliates his own kids, my nephews, I'm going to have to explain that he can't just think, "I did that all the time with my kid brother and he turned out OK".

Uh, no he didn't.

Seems that she makes the opposite point she's trying to argue. The studies show the antidepressants are no better than placebo in mild to moderate depression. Therefore, they don't work, OTHER than functioning as a placebo. Yes, we all know the placebo effect is real, about 20% of people improve with a sugar pill. So, I guess she's arguing that the antidepressant is just a substitute for the sugar pill, and therefore effective in that regard. Why not save expense and side-effects and just give patients the sugar pill instead, when they have mild to moderate depression? Or better yet, prescribe exercise, bright light therapy, nutrition, abstinence from CNS depressants, and healthy sleep habits instead.
The evidence for a physiologic/anatomical cause of the symptoms of depression is overwhelming. The vegetative symptoms of severe depression; generalized anxiety, appetite disturbance and, the hallmark, sleep disturbance, all point to an abnormal "hypervigilant" state probably mediated through the hypothalamic, pituitary, adrenal axis. The genetic predisposition for depression and the evidence that permanent changes in the brain may progress with frequent bouts of severe depression also point to a common physiologic pathway. Having experienced the acute onset of 2 bouts of severe depression, complete with all the vegetative symptoms, I can tell you from personal experience that you KNOW something has changed in the way your brain and body are functioning. It's if an alien has invaded your body, taken control and tucked your old "self" away in a closet somewhere. I couldn't say that any of the antidepressants that I tried had a profound effect on recovery, it was 6 months of hell, and then about 2 years of discomfort before remission in both cases. However, now I think I'm on a combination drug therapy that I feel is more effective in keeping me in remission. Part of the issue may have been that I'm more bipolar with mainly depressive mood, rather than a true unipolar depressive type.

No way that this is fake. If this were fake the police officer deserves an acting award.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipsychotic#Medical_uses
"The number of prescriptions for children and adolescents doubled to 4.4 million between 2003 and 2006, in part because of increases in diagnoses of bipolar disorder."\

... you know what... in retrospect, this is a really bizarre video for a number of reasons... maybe fake

Good luck on the revolution front. Not only do we need a new foundation on how we deal with corporations, police, military, science, religion/state, prisons, health-care, lawmaking, politics, policy foreign/domestic, executive functions state or country, emergency response systems, logistics roads/bridges/railroad, infrastructure, welfare and societal needs, energy, money/goods, trade, etc...

Like he said, we need a new foundation on our psychology. What we teach our children is bunk, it will make the majority of them happy for a few fleeting moments and unhappy the rest of their lives. We need to find a new foundation to help find happiness for everyone for the majority of their entire life--without resorting to competition and instead combining our strengths and creating a great community.

I'd wager the closest you'll get is to literally do education completely different than what we do now. Start at an early age and give the children a glimpse of ALL trades to be used and learned in the world. Over time find what they excel at and LIKE doing and help them achieve their goal in that field. Then continually narrow the field as they get older so they can truly become a master at something, like a chemical engineer. Education would, graphically, look more like a giant plinko board that students slowly make their way down and filter themselves into the field THEY want. If we supported students all the way PASS college to the point they were job ready (and in fact you could perhaps harmonize corporations into the mix, so that when you get your degree not only have you most likely interned/researched at the place you will work gaining practical knowledge you are ready day one out of school to start a job you LOVE and excel at.

I know you'll get clumps and pools of people in places you may not have uses for them, but if we truly put our minds to it I bet we could find a way to still get the method to work (I know corporations won't necessarily do what I said except in--most likely-- the science fields, but having just a few large companies do it would help). Then if we lived a slower paced life, with more time off to OURSELVES than in slavery to someone else you might see a change in the overall attitude of our community and maybe civilization. Help people pay for modest houses and maybe even some furniture. Cover healthcare needs for each other, maybe even other social services as well. Tone the military down to a defensive one, one that can defend us, but can only truly become a real war machine like what happened in WWII.

Granted, there would be a lot to work out, but I highly doubt it's impossible to create a GREAT life here on this planet if we all work together to make it happen. Hell, we walked on the fucking moon! I know most of this will require not only leaps in science and with those leaps, hopefully ,soon, some of those bring about leaps in the psychology fields helping us to genetically weed out sociopaths, psychopaths, unipolar, bipolar, borderline, Asperger's, sever depression/anxiety, OCDs, addictions, etc... Plus with expanded bio-engineering, especially in genetics, if we could make sure people atleast have an IQ of say 120 (hell if you truly find the master switch--just turn it up), get rid of all genetic diseases and birth imperfections, rid us of deafness, blindness, baldness, etc... Then add in the advancements in bio-engineering on the mechanical, nanotechnological, electronics, and computers and we'll have one hell of a ride (of course if we haven't solved the psychological issues by then, we will almost certainly kill ourselves off). But, that stuff is 50 years away with some probably 150-200 years away. If we can help stabilize our humanity, through engineering and perfecting our psychology, I really believe we'll have a chance one day to see some sort of Utopian society.

Everything he talked about most likely leads to something that MIGHT be better than what we had. But, it won't be here in the U.S. and I doubt it'll even be in Asia (China, South Korea, and Japan). Europe, excluding the U.K. has a chance, with northern Europe having a better chance. You never quite know who history will choose next to bring the next big leap in progress to the human civilization.

/I didn't think I'd write something so long about that. Oh well, I just felt like sharing a little more optimistic view on what could happen to we humans.

To put it simply, it's just a giant capacitor.

>> ^Trancecoach:

an electrostatic leader is formed by the change in pressure in the atmosphere caused by a thundercloud moving over the surface of the earth, setting the charges on the base of the cloud and the surface of the earth equal but opposite. A channel of ionized air starts from the negatively charged region in the cloud, mixes with water and ice. the initial bipolar discharge, called a leader, generates the stepped leaders which result in the familiarly branched or zigzag path of least resistance as the electrostatic imbalance is returned to zero by the return stroke of lightening.
>> ^Payback:
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an electrostatic leader is formed by the change in pressure in the atmosphere caused by a thundercloud moving over the surface of the earth, setting the charges on the base of the cloud and the surface of the earth equal but opposite. A channel of ionized air starts from the negatively charged region in the cloud, mixes with water and ice. the initial bipolar discharge, called a leader, generates the stepped leaders which result in the familiarly branched or zigzag path of least resistance as the electrostatic imbalance is returned to zero by the return stroke of lightening.

>> ^Payback:

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>> ^cito:

Overall he was a nice guy, but I swear he was bipolar.


Interesting. Many creative minds have Manic Depressive Disorder. Mania has always helped my creativity.

I never liked him, I worked for Apple in the mid 90's and Apple is worse than Convergence, he rewarded people that worked 90+ hours a week and if one of them happen to doze off he would go into major rages and fire them publicly in front of everyone. He had major problem with anger in the office.

That movie pirates of silicon valley was dead on how Steve was in real life. It led to him being fired by the board but he did return of course and after his firing he cooled down a bit.

I worked there for 3 years and saw a couple of his major rage outbursts publicly firing several for not meeting a deadline, yelling, cursing and throwing his patented Steve fits.

Overall he was a nice guy, but I swear he was bipolar.

I left on my own when I had to move due to financial issues and wound up moving to easy coast and working for Mythic before they were bought by EA games then was part of the massive layoffs by EA.

EA is the real devil

When I feel my mania creeping, I always consult Maryjane. She does wonders.

>> ^vaire2ube:

We can't treat bipolar and depression with great success because... Cannabis is illegal. Many conditions are well controlled with this free plant.

since it he was mentioned in comments here is a recent sift about ben goldacre
http://videosift.com/video/TED-Battling-Bad-Science-Ben-Goldacre