Tags for this video have been changed from 'stephen fry, qi, parthenon, acropolis' to 'stephen fry, qi, parthenon, acropolis, Jimmy Carr, Bill Bailey' - edited by cybrbeast

>> ^NetRunner:
It also serves a double purpose of implying that anyone in America who espouses those critiques of America are clearly un-American, and should be reviled and shunned.

George Bush:
"If you're not with us, you're against us."

Reason enough to invade every country in the world, then!

ShakaUVM - So you immediately assume that it's just 4 french people being rude and ignorant? I mean, french are rude and ignorant as a rule anyway! But it never once, for a single second, occured to you that they were snubbing you because of war-crazy, religious fanaticism topped with gun-(lack of)control, self righteousness and ego?

You think i say that to insult anyone? That's what people think dude........ Blame it on others if you like, but if i give people the impression that i'm an ignorant woman hating racist sexual predator pervert, then maybe that might just be a problem with how i present myself.

To semi-quote bill bailey, when i see a round of applause greeting a comment like "I don't know anything about iraq, but speaking as a mother, i know it's FULL OF TERRORISTS!", i despair for the american nationality. Obviously, that isn't a direct quote. But the amount of times i've seen americans applauding someone for saying something PRO-AMERICAN that is actually bullshit! It's just gotta sound right and the stupid majority will carry the unsure minority along in a wave of applause, leaving the few intelligent people remaining wondering why the fuck people are clapping. Happens here with comment voting as well. Say something intelligent and you might get a few votes. Say something pro-(anything american here), and you'll get 50. Say ANYTHING that even LOOKS anti-american and you get 5 downvotes. It'll happen with this comment too. People will read 2 lines and ignore the rest.

I appeal to the people on the sift that frequently floor me with the quality of their comments, please come and make a few choice observations over here. Even to prove me wrong! I just love hearing from you. And a lot of you are american

(PS. The true gold mine for me on this sift isn't in the comments that get upvoted, it's the ones that have buckets of quality and are ignored)

>> ^Thunderhorseman1:
The "edge" could accidentally step on the bypass on the pedal to cancel his infinite guitar. Besides, who would notice anyway? Anyone who finds themselves at a U2 concert is a musical retard at some level.


Yea because everyone who does not have your musical tastes must be deemed a retard. Sounds like you are the retard here.

If you don't laugh at a pun as good as "reich rolled", then you will never find anything funny in your life.

Almost as good as bill bailey's pun "Third Reich From the Sun".

>> ^MINK:
I get the feeling that not many people look at unsifted vids, because things like my recent bill bailey sit around with 3 votes for ages, and then after some requeue love they escape the queue and get 50 votes.

I've noticed this myself...a lot of videos in the queues either get really low views, really low votes, or most often both. People look a lot more at the published videos.

IMPROVING TAGGING. yes you can put "jon stewart" in the title AND the tags please, because the title is not the tags, and "jon stewart" is not clickable in the title.

I disagree with this. If you're too lazy to type "jon stewart" into search, that sounds more like a personal problem. It only needs to be in either the tags or the title/description to show up when you search for it, so I think it's better to skip tagging something that's already in the title. Maybe that's just me.

DITCHING COMMENT VOTING. this would attract more people to the site who aren't kneejerk polarising comment nannies. anti commentvote people tend to be deeper people and sift better stuff that i can't find for myself on the liveleak homepage. (ready, flame.... NOW!)

I don't even need to flame this, it's irrelevant bullshit.

ADDING LINKS TO FAVOURITE SIFTERS. no, not "friends" but a quick way to browse my favourite sifters' queues without RSS and all that rubbish.

This (heck, even a Friends feature) is a great idea. There are some people whose videos I like about 90 percent of the time, so I'm always interested to see what they have queued, but you can't even search for a member! There needs to be some way to find members via a search function, and a favorite sifters idea is great.

both Lithuania and the queue are exhibiting elements of FUBARism.

I get the feeling that not many people look at unsifted vids, because things like my recent bill bailey sit around with 3 votes for ages, and then after some requeue love they escape the queue and get 50 votes. I used to feel more connection between queue performance and eventual performance.
Now i feel like the queue is a kind of pointless annoyance.

if the point of the queue is to ensure that only very good stuff escapes, then the queue is not working. crap escapes all the time, normally due to a "clever" title rather than a good video.

so, it's easier to get star points by submitting vote whore crap with a cute title.

it is good to see that occasionally some interesting vids make it to the top 15, but they're all on TED anyway, i don't need siftbot to help me find them.

My strategy now is to visit (stalk) more user profiles to find good submitters, which means i probably miss good stuff from newbies. but what the hey.

oh well, dag admits there's no obvious solution, actually it's like trying to make a perpetual motion machine... i think the laws of humanity prohibit the hive mind from ever working effectively. it always becomes a pissing contest full of hypersensitive hypocritical comment nannies.

i recommend:

IMPROVING SEARCH. it doesn't work. yes i know it's hard. but it's the heart of the site.

IMPROVING TAGGING. yes you can put "jon stewart" in the title AND the tags please, because the title is not the tags, and "jon stewart" is not clickable in the title.

IMPROVING DESCRIPTIONS. give me more than the video. and lucky, pleeeeease can we have the "hidden" description field so there is actually information in there about the clip, but it isn't shown before viewing, so it doesn't spoil the surprise, but it's damn useful for followup research or fixing deads.

PENALISING BAD TITLES. *retitle would be good. get 2 of those and your clip is pulled from the listings until you retitle. persistent abusers of *retitle are banned. same could be true for tags. Spell things right, you are defending against future duping, so do it right or someone else will just dupe you and get 150 votes before anyone notices.

DITCHING COMMENT VOTING. this would attract more people to the site who aren't kneejerk polarising comment nannies. anti commentvote people tend to be deeper people and sift better stuff that i can't find for myself on the liveleak homepage. (ready, flame.... NOW!)

ADDING LINKS TO FAVOURITE SIFTERS. no, not "friends" but a quick way to browse my favourite sifters' queues without RSS and all that rubbish.

oh and...

MAKE BEING A CHARTER MEMBER REALLY REALLY AWESOME and i will join.
but right now all i can see is a colorchange for my username, and a blog that i can get anywhere else for free. and a bigger queue that i don't need.

what i mean is, i can get by fine not being charter, so why bother? just out of kindness? nah there's kids' charities for that. Give me some value. If that means degrading the experience for non charter members and lurkers, well... fuck 'em.

people who pay for something tend not to piss on it so much. you might even see the difference in my posts if you'd stop with the ridiculous rules and formulae and "fun" mechanisms and bullcrap that doesn't work properly.

why not try fixing the search and cataloging side of the site instead of mopping up after the evermorecomplex pissing contest?

hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaah
he's a genius.

In reply to this comment by gorilla_squad:
i think bill bailey got pretty close:

"We have strong prevailing south westerly winds. 52% of our days are overcast so as a nation we're infused with a wistful melancholy, but we remain a relentlessly chipper population. Prone to mild eccentricity, binge drinking and casual violence. Breakfast is served 7-9."

In reply to this comment by MINK:
yeah you can make the best of it, and it's not a warzone. i just didn't understand your point. thanks

In reply to this comment by gorilla_squad:
i was addressing you. bill bryson is utterly mawkish about britain and most of what he said in the vid is bollocks, but then so is your rant.

I've been living in london on a modest wage for years and have a great time, so I thought I'd add some balance to bryson's indulgence and your bitterness.

In reply to this comment by MINK:
errrr.... not sure who you are addressing with that comment

i left england, and i am not so sentimental about it.

if you were agreeing with me, then yeah! haha

In reply to this comment by gorilla_squad:
jesus, turn down the sentimentality. england's not all that.

In reply to this comment by MINK:
as another englishman who left that ridiculous island... i can say this is bollocks.
you need a LOT of money to like the UK...

...maybe the kind of money you would get if you wrote a cozy book about how great the UK is.

ok so people DO apologise if you hit them carelessly in a crowded place, big woop.

i think bill bailey got pretty close:

"We have strong prevailing south westerly winds. 52% of our days are overcast so as a nation we're infused with a wistful melancholy, but we remain a relentlessly chipper population. Prone to mild eccentricity, binge drinking and casual violence. Breakfast is served 7-9."

In reply to this comment by MINK:
yeah you can make the best of it, and it's not a warzone. i just didn't understand your point. thanks

In reply to this comment by gorilla_squad:
i was addressing you. bill bryson is utterly mawkish about britain and most of what he said in the vid is bollocks, but then so is your rant.

I've been living in london on a modest wage for years and have a great time, so I thought I'd add some balance to bryson's indulgence and your bitterness.

In reply to this comment by MINK:
errrr.... not sure who you are addressing with that comment

i left england, and i am not so sentimental about it.

if you were agreeing with me, then yeah! haha

In reply to this comment by gorilla_squad:
jesus, turn down the sentimentality. england's not all that.

In reply to this comment by MINK:
as another englishman who left that ridiculous island... i can say this is bollocks.
you need a LOT of money to like the UK...

...maybe the kind of money you would get if you wrote a cozy book about how great the UK is.

ok so people DO apologise if you hit them carelessly in a crowded place, big woop.

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There was a post from Dag in another sift talk thread about this, I think re a full episode of Still Game.
The problem is full episodes tend to attract takedown notices, shorter clips generally don't, with some notable exceptions. And I doubt that music publishers really want videos pulled given their power to promote artists.

In a way we are posting what we can get away with. I starblogged a performance of Bill Bailey and it seems that one-off complete performances and documentaries are ok in this regard. This isn't double-standards, for me it's being realistic about content that gets uploaded to the video hosts.

Oh how I hate Phil Collins. Bill Bailey did a good job summing up this song at 4:15-5:00 on this video.

"bill bailey" a tag to add to my list!

congratulations gorillaman..your british comedy playlist is simply delightful...

first published -

http://www.videosift.com/video/Bill-Bailey-Tribute-to-Kraftwerk

Well done mate. Many good comedy clips, you've got excellent taste sir.

My <ahref="http://www.videosift.com/video/Bill-Bailey-Tribute-to-Kraftwerk">favourite.

Bill Bailey's an absolute genius, and this is his masterpiece.