"Unfortunately, the real benefits of this package risk being undermined by alarmist scaremongering that it will cause certain websites to be blocked, and consumers prosecuted for copyright abuse."

In order to address public interest issues with respect to the use of communications services, and to encourage protection of the rights and freedoms of others, the relevant national authorities should be able to produce and have disseminated, with the aid of providers, information related to the use of communications services. This information should include warnings regarding copyright infringement, other unlawful uses and dissemination of harmful content(...)

Management of networks in order to, for example, address congestion and capacity constraints and to enable new services should not per se be considered an example of a restriction requiring intervention, and due account should be taken of the right of network and service operators to diversify their offerings in a competitive market, including through the imposition of reasonable usage restrictions, price differentiation and other legitimate competitive practices.

It seems far out there, but its not a joke.

I'm trying to find all the things that tell me this stuff isn't true but I cant seem to find any thing on the internet that tells me its fake.

Its been around since the 1980s after the contra.

Not trying to be alarmist, but this is the first I've heard of this.

There are places that have huge plots of land with plastic boxes stacked up, look like coffins.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wV3vc9kDEM&NR=1

These are coffin liners, but according to these guys they havent been used for interment of bodies at normal graveyards.

This is questionable, stuff.

Oh no, a company wants to make money!

What a bunch of absurd, alarmist bullshit. I know that throwing rocks at the giant is fashionable, but give me a fucking break.

People who don't believe in government shouldn't ever ask people to put them in charge of it.

That's a very elitist attitude, NR. You're basically saying "If you don't believe in what I'm saying then get out of my way because I know what's best!" What's up with that? To be honest, I think the free market works just fine, because that's truly the power given to the people. You don't need the USDA, OSHA or the EPA. If I remember correctly, the USDA wasn't successful in stopping the salmonella outbreak in tomatoes and jalapenos, even with all of their regulations. The same goes with any government department. They're ineffectual and wasteful.

You're too alarmist for my taste. The free market doesn't set the value of human life. What's that about? We don't need OSHA to care for human life - I say let the people care for the people. If people or property are damaged because of negligence there are ways of rectifying that matter without preemptive bureaucratic restrictions, regulations and subsidies. If a company is negligent they should be held accountable by the communities. For instance, you don't need the EPA when you allow communities to sue corporations for pollution and dumping, but currently we've allowed corporate interests to get way too close to police makers (the same policy makers who devise and run these worthless departments), so instead of allowing communities to sue corporations, the federal government in their infinite wisdom penalizes them instead when they pollute and damage local ecosystems. It's essentially a pollution tax paid to the federal government. Isn't that nice?

I'd say you'd have more of a leg to stand on if you could prove how these departments are worth the amount we pay in for them. But, that's impossible, isn't it?

Yeah, like I said, I'm not sure how I feel about it. This whole TSA thing feels like "security theater" to me, more intended to keep us scared than keep us safe.

>> ^bigbikeman:
...you say "openess and humanity", I say "patronizing, self-aggrandizing, alarmist bullshit". To-mae-to to-mah-to

Okay, a downvote and here's why: this boob actually means to tell me that the layouts of an average laptop vs a macbook air is sensitive security information? Puh-leeze.

I'll try and remember that the next time I open either type of laptop....or just when I happen to glance at a screen in the next line at the airport security queue while I'm waiting for the snickering teenage wand-wavers to get their weak-assed shit together.

But wait, they're.....different inside???????? No.....HOLY CARP!

I dunno schmawy, you say "openess and humanity", I say "patronizing, self-aggrandizing, alarmist bullshit". To-mae-to to-mah-to

What's so alarmist about comparing the decomposition of a natural food and a manufactured food. Even mold rejects the burger as a food source, why should I expect to find nourishment in it?

<places cheeseburger into thigh storage for later>

"There's no breakdown. I think once it gets in your thighs, there's no breakdown; it doesn't go anywhere!"

This lady obviously doesn't know WTF she's talking about. It's not like a McDonald's hamburger goes right to your thighs in it's undigested form. That comment she made has to be the single most irrational, alarmist, and stupid thing I've heard come out of a supposed media "diet expert" in a long time.

Could have been an preserved strain that was was openly distributed as a controlled many as three years ago? Coulda been anybody, right?

No, you're misunderstanding what I said. The strain is the same. The attacks could have been perpetrated with spores grown from a sample taken many years ago, not just three. The three years is just a somewhat-random number latched on to by the reporters, it only applies if the culture is being continuously grown (and not kept in stasis for storage), as would be required for research but not for collecting spores to stuff in a letter.

CP has a right to push this video, even if is alarmist and may send people down the wrong path.

Yeah, so where did I say he didn't have a right to push this video? I have the right to make fun of him for being a crybaby and for insisting on weighing in on issues he clearly knows little about, and I also have the right to call him out on both counts. I have no qualms about being uncivil, this is a bit of fun.

My world isn't going to collapse because of a little negative number, lol. This sift has no import on the issue in real life, so I have no problem laughing it off.

^Well, that certainly comes across as a little less knee-jerk. Could have been an preserved strain that was was openly distributed as a controlled many as three years ago? Coulda been anybody, right?

CP has a right to push this video, even if is alarmist and may send people down the wrong path. And as far as his downvoting, I don't take that as passive agressive. That's what the little triangles are for. For example...whack! -1 for being uncivil.

E: Good post btw. I come here to learn something.

Okay you're right, it's way deep and this video is very alarmist.
Yes I am, yes it is, and yes it is.

Rembar could you tell us if it's true that they concluded it was all the Ames type, and if in fact this is "almost" entirely controlled by the pentagon?
It was the Ames strain (not type), although that's poor reporting on this video's part by implying that it is one of many. Although this is true, basically any lab worth its salt doing research on anthrax pathology uses the Ames strain, so that tells people precious little. And no, it is not almost entirely controlled by the Pentagon. It is under national regulation, and not anybody can get their hands on it, but it's a BSL-3 agent, not BSL-4. And that doesn't even cover the samples not held in the US.

People forget that anthrax is a bacteria. Unlike nuclear and chemical weapons, new samples of pathogenic bacteria can be grown from a small sample, and how exactly do you keep inventory of that?

The new work also shows that substantial genetic differences can emerge in two samples of an anthrax culture separated for only three years. This means the attacker's anthrax was not separated from its ancestors at USAMRIID for many generations.'(9 May 2002, New Scientist)
So it wasn't "on the street" for long.
That's what it seems like at first glance, but that conclusion is faulty. Three years of cultivation is a long, long time, especially if you're only collecting material to use in an attack, rather than trying to improve the strain's lethality or resistance to antibiotics or anything in that vein. In certain forms and methods, anthrax can be properly stored in stasis for decades, without necessity of reproduction. Thus, you could keep a sample viable for close to a century, but genetically your strain will be the same generation. In effect, this knowledge instead points to somebody doing a grow-and-throw - in simplified terms, acquiring the anthrax sample, storing it for however long, then growing some, collecting spores, and sending them, then rinsing and repeating as necessary. This means it was not specifically weaponized, contrary to what the newspapers love to tell you, nor would the actual process require very high-level knowledge of microbiology or anthrax in order to perform.

And lol, Constitutional_Patriot, cry more. I'll gladly put a silly video about breast-watching (which is both entertaining and healthy, as the video demonstrates) into my channel over something that's factually inaccurate, something you don't seem to understand as you've demonstrated a number of times that you wouldn't know real science if it bit you in the ass. Don't try to take it out on me with your little passive-aggressive downvoting. Sack up.

Rembar could you tell us if it's true that they concluded it was all the Ames type, and if in fact this is "almost" entirely controlled by the pentagon? Is there even such thing as an Ames strain? Is he the guy they c...never mind I'm going to sound stupid if I keep asking questions so I'll go look at wikipedia.

Okay you're right, it's way deep and this video is very alarmist.

First this...

"Although the anthrax preparations were of different grades, all of the material derived from the same bacterial strain. Known as the Ames strain, it was first researched at the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID), Fort Detrick, Maryland. The Ames strain was then distributed to at least fifteen bio-research labs within the U.S. and six locations overseas."

So, anybody could have it by now.

And then this...

...The new work also shows that substantial genetic differences can emerge in two samples of an anthrax culture separated for only three years. This means the attacker's anthrax was not separated from its ancestors at USAMRIID for many generations.' (9 May 2002, New Scientist)

So it wasn't "on the street" for long.

Personally, I remember thinking it was an attack by the Pro-life (Anti-choice). I had googled who was attacked in the Senate and it came back that they were all part of a Pro-choice (Anti-life) committee or initiative or something.

Short answer: No, no they are not. Alarmist reporting and poorly-designed and poorly-analyzed epidemiological studies are to blame. Oh, and the plural of anecdote is not data.

Even if the highly unlikely were true and one of the more credible (and I use that term lightly) theories were right, a mechanism for indirect harm linked to close proximity to cell phone towers et. al. (or electromagnetic fields for that matter) would still only result in very minute increases in disease occurrence.

Yes, the climate goes in cycles, there have been ice ages before. But we also know climate can kill civilizations...and build civilizations (drought brought remote Africans to the Nile for example.)

If you watch the doc, you can clearly see there is an industry...the richest industry in the world that is using its extreme wealth to not make our planet a better place to live, and democracies should use their power of the people to fight these types of businesses. Maybe I would forgive Exxon for their years of damaging the earth if they started committing cleaner and maybe renewable energies, sure they wont make billions and billions every year, but what the hell are they doing with the billions and billions they already make? Buying yachts? bribing the Media? funding hack scientists.

Global Warming has been chewed up and spit out by the MSM, but its time for people to start thinking for themselves, the actions of these liars who are profiting from the literal destruction of the planet needs to be dealt with. The science is in. Spewing pollution into air is warming up the planet and already making it very unlivable (ever spent a summer in Toronto? Try Bejing!) That warmth is causing climates all over the earth to act wacky...It wont kill our planet, but it could certainly make the world a much less pleasant place for humans and animals to live (although in some places its not really pleasant right now.)

I don't mean to be an alarmist, but I grew up learning about the environment, we learnt about Global Warming in grade school back in the 80s. At that time we were under the impression that "adults" were taking care of it by recycling and composting. Then Canada starts profiting from the oil sands and our Global warming priorities are suddenly lined up with America...Where "The Jury is still out." - Understand our PM is loyal to Bush, but our PM cuts taxes and thats why people like him, don't worry about the 2500 troops euchred in Ghanistan. Once the arctic melts you can trade from Canada to Europe in hours, you almost have to wonder if these guys simply WANT to destroy the planet...apparently it pays. - http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1841989

bah!
So how's the weather in your neck of the woods choggie

Well, if industrial civilization has caused "irreparable" damage, why worry?

Concern for the environment is admirable; the self-sealing ignorance encouraged by alarmists is not.

The art of misdirection is not only used by magicians but by hucksters and politicos. You don't sell vacuum cleaners without first sprinkling dirt.

Private property and self-ownership are what make clean technology possible, not the socialist Central Committee.

Nonetheless I praise fedquip for caring, enough to wake people up.