I like when Rumsfeld says that Bush gave Saddam and his family an opportunity to leave. I remember this. He gave a 48 hour window for Saddam to leave and this happened.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/march/20/newsid_3495000/3495453.stm

All is fair in love and pre-war.

Its well worth watching. It was done by Arron Russo, who also did movies like 48 Trading places and 48 hours.

If you want to know the truth about taxes then watch at least the first 40 min.

>> ^dannym3141:

I think i was trying to do a sendup of an armchair critic attacking something she/he didn't really understand properly. I don't REALLY care about how you spell (why should i when you don't?). I think it's a good analogy for this guy's game. You put in as much effort as you're willing to in the time you've got. You sacrifice your spelling in order to get a point across in a short amount of time - just as this guy has to sacrifice certain gameplay elements to complete his vision in 48 hours. It's as much to do with sacrifice/time management as it is to do with "how the game plays".
You know that even a game as cosmetically simple as Braid doesn't get whipped up in 2 days by one person. It boggles my mind to think how he managed to do what he did in such a short spell of time. I dare say the game could have been improved with some 3d elements, correct lighting and shading, JRPG style zero-g hair waving and other such modern miracles, but it'd take a team of 100 people half a year to do something on that scale.
20 of that team would be an art department, another 20 motion capture, another 20 probably texture/modelling designers, and the remaining 40 would be programmers to bring it all together. And they'd all be working more or less at the same time - think of the man hours! If anyone even has the skill set to DO a final fantasy game on their own, it'd probably take them a decade or two.
I would love to see some better games done from the ground up in 24 hour periods. However that wouldn't make what this guy made any less of an achievement. I think people are taking issue with just that - it's not whether you think the game is worth playing in the modern game market, it's whether you think it was an impressive feat or not!
That's about the skinny for you, hope i've cleared it up.
thanks for that , but my piont is 100% valid and you obvously understood what i wrote so evan though the spelling was shit and the punctuatoin bad it still performed its function.
I can do manny things in 48 hours , if im going to publish it on the internet im going to take the good and the bad criticisum.
Is the rule that is has to take 48 hours of work before you allow bad criticism to go unnoticed, or was that just an accident? Feel free to criticise my comprehension of your comments without consequence - it nearly took me 48 hours.


I am a games developer , i know how long and how much time it takes to make games. when saying the art and charactor movment is bad that is within the context of spending 48 hours on a game.

having a nice art asthetic + solid charactor movment are not things that necaccerly would be impacted by a 48 hour development time.

you can work with the time frame you have and do art around that , for example if this guy had gone for realy realy LOfi graphics i think it would have been less work and looked far better.

as for player movment in flash there are plenty of scripts and methadoligies for knocking out Mario typ charactor movment within 30min.

allso i was very clear thst "the mechanic of shooting the tiny dudes is good though" and thats realy the core aspect of the game , my piont was that its a shame that the art and basic charactor movment were a total detrement to something that could have been alllot better with minimal effort and some slight changes.

I think i was trying to do a sendup of an armchair critic attacking something she/he didn't really understand properly. I don't REALLY care about how you spell (why should i when you don't?). I think it's a good analogy for this guy's game. You put in as much effort as you're willing to in the time you've got. You sacrifice your spelling in order to get a point across in a short amount of time - just as this guy has to sacrifice certain gameplay elements to complete his vision in 48 hours. It's as much to do with sacrifice/time management as it is to do with "how the game plays".

You know that even a game as cosmetically simple as Braid doesn't get whipped up in 2 days by one person. It boggles my mind to think how he managed to do what he did in such a short spell of time. I dare say the game could have been improved with some 3d elements, correct lighting and shading, JRPG style zero-g hair waving and other such modern miracles, but it'd take a team of 100 people half a year to do something on that scale.

20 of that team would be an art department, another 20 motion capture, another 20 probably texture/modelling designers, and the remaining 40 would be programmers to bring it all together. And they'd all be working more or less at the same time - think of the man hours! If anyone even has the skill set to DO a final fantasy game on their own, it'd probably take them a decade or two.

I would love to see some better games done from the ground up in 24 hour periods. However that wouldn't make what this guy made any less of an achievement. I think people are taking issue with just that - it's not whether you think the game is worth playing in the modern game market, it's whether you think it was an impressive feat or not!

That's about the skinny for you, hope i've cleared it up.

thanks for that , but my piont is 100% valid and you obvously understood what i wrote so evan though the spelling was shit and the punctuatoin bad it still performed its function.

I can do manny things in 48 hours , if im going to publish it on the internet im going to take the good and the bad criticisum.

Is the rule that is has to take 48 hours of work before you allow bad criticism to go unnoticed, or was that just an accident? Feel free to criticise my comprehension of your comments without consequence - it nearly took me 48 hours.

>> ^dannym3141:

>> ^westy:
The charactor movment is horable and the art is terrable ,
the mechanic of shooting the tiny dudes is good though

The speeling was harrofic adn the punctuation , washit/


thanks for that , but my piont is 100% valid and you obvously understood what i wrote so evan though the spelling was shit and the punctuatoin bad it still performed its function.

unlike with the game where charactor movment is arguably one of the most important aspcets of a platformer and manny would argue that the art is a key motivater to play the game or make it enjoyable. In short by having bad charactor movment and arguably bad art work the game is not performing its functoin.

I can do manny things in 48 hours , if im going to publish it on the internet im going to take the good and the bad criticisum.

~Im happy for this guy making a game and all , but when u compare this to stuff at demo sceen , or evan games i have seen made in 24 hour peroids its realy not impressive , ( i dont think the guy making the video was evan trying to be impresive he just put it up for the sake of it ) in the end what i said was correct so i dont see the issue with it

>> ^arghness:

>> ^westy:
The charactor movment is horable and the art is terrable ,
the mechanic of shooting the tiny dudes is good though

You realise this game, the code and the art, audio assets etc. were all designed and created by a single person in 48 hours, which includes eating and sleeping, right?
The Ludum Dare competition entries are all based on themes. The developer doesn't even know what the theme is until the competition starts. The theme for this one (Ludum Dare 18) was "Enemies as Weapons". Some of the entries get carried forward in to bigger full-sized games but most are just fun proof of concept pieces showing the creativity that a lot of modern commercial games lack, albeit without the same presentation finesse.
I thought this game was great, with the different puzzles to solve with the gunners, the stacking of hats (reminded me of TF2!) and the different launchers.


yes I know it was made in a short peroid of time , IT still stands that charactor movment is bad , as well as the art work (evan for a 2day project) .

thats just a fact , The game dose have some intresting mechanics but the art and charactor movment is bad.

personaly if im setting out to make a game in 2 days i would do something more simple that i could exicute faster and to a higher quality level.

allso charactor movment is not something that takes allot of time to program ( if u know how to alredy do it)

>> ^westy:

The charactor movment is horable and the art is terrable ,
the mechanic of shooting the tiny dudes is good though


You realise this game, the code and the art, audio assets etc. were all designed and created by a single person in 48 hours, which includes eating and sleeping, right?

The Ludum Dare competition entries are all based on themes. The developer doesn't even know what the theme is until the competition starts. The theme for this one (Ludum Dare 18) was "Enemies as Weapons". Some of the entries get carried forward in to bigger full-sized games but most are just fun proof of concept pieces showing the creativity that a lot of modern commercial games lack, albeit without the same presentation finesse.

I thought this game was great, with the different puzzles to solve with the gunners, the stacking of hats (reminded me of TF2!) and the different launchers.

To do it your way, first someone would have to * promote it back to life, then either:

1. Do a *backup invocation with the embed code you have, then mark it as *dead. This would fix the video immediately.
2. Mark it as *dead, then in 48 hours someone (you, I suppose) could fix the embed for a power point.

However, as I mentioned, someone would have to * promote it back to life first before doing either of the above options.

Note that you also have the option of posting the video yourself. All discards are fair game for being posted again by someone else, regardless of why they were discarded, even if they were discarded in the pre-Dead Pool days for going dead. That might be the simplest solution.

>> ^campionidelmondo:

Shortening it to two days will only serve to shut off this site even more to people outside the core clique and eventually you can delete all but the 20 odd accounts that operate the site as it is.

It's been just about 48 hours since I posted this (closer to 50, to be more precise0, and 32 people have already voted. The lower participation is to be expected over the weekend, but 32 is still higher than the 20 odd accounts that you say operate this site. During a 48-hour period hundreds of different members log in, so access to any poll would not be that restrictive.


Your argument about the "core clique" is just vague enough not to impugn anyone, yet strong enough to suggest that shortening a poll would somehow be favorable to just a handful of members. An argument like that needs to be more specific, or else you're just playing the outsider-politics card.

I've only skimmed the conversation, and it looks like most questions have been answered, but here's a little more input.

Regarding Power Points:
You have a given allowance, 1 for non-charter, 2 for charter members. Any time your PP use cuts into your allowance, a 48 hour timer starts counting down before your full allowance is refilled. If once that timer runs out your allowance is already filled, no new points are given.

Regarding votes-to-views ratio:
The views that are used to calculate the ratio for sorting in Unsifted are "unique views," that is, the number of unique members who have viewed a video. Hover your mouse over the views to see more info.

Regarding quality Power Points and Star Points:
When someone invokes quality on a video, you are awarded a Power Point nothing. When it is invoked on a Sift Talk post, you are awarded a Star Point.

Regarding Front Page hotness/promote/quality:
Gwiz described it pretty accurately.

Regarding private commenting:
No one except the intended recipient will ever read a private comment.

I'm off to work, but I expect some good discussion about this controversy over the course of the next 24-48 hours. Good night, and good luck.

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This is double true. Unfortunately as a legacy of the olden days- our domain is with a registrar that doesn't allow adjustments to TTL. We're fixing this. Better late than never.>> ^brain:
You should have just lowered the TTL first.
>> ^lucky760:
>> ^gwiz665:
I know there are still people stuck in razzleberry though.

Word. It's common knowledge that it can take up to 24-48 hours for a DNS change to propagate, but it's a surprisingly long wait nonetheless.

You should have just lowered the TTL first.
>> ^lucky760:
>> ^gwiz665:
I know there are still people stuck in razzleberry though.

Word. It's common knowledge that it can take up to 24-48 hours for a DNS change to propagate, but it's a surprisingly long wait nonetheless.

>> ^gwiz665:
I know there are still people stuck in razzleberry though.


Word. It's common knowledge that it can take up to 24-48 hours for a DNS change to propagate, but it's a surprisingly long wait nonetheless.

This is pretty good, though not as awesome as this one from McSweeny's: http://www.mcsweeneys.net/2005/3/4gavaler.html

Man at a video store is trying to rent The Day After Tomorrow, Before Sunset, Seven, After Hours, 48 Hours, Ten, and Before Sunrise

Hilarity ensues.