I quit, but before I did I tallied all the time on all my characters that were above level 10. Didn't delete them, but I'm not playing (or paying) anymore.

saccharin - 117 days, 11 hours, 11 minutes
olaaj - 2 days, 3 hours, 5 minutes
akamdunga - 1 hours, 57 minutes
cuecue - 5 days, 15 hours, 44 minutes
menamuna - 1 day, 20 hours, 59 minutes
dwinny - 1 day, 6 hours, 45 minutes
heilender - 9 hours, 48 minutes
alkabamahma - 2 days, 9 hours, 59 minutes
saccbank - 17 hours, 3 minutes
cuecue 1 day, 18 hours, 14 minutes
usiku - 16 days, 10 hours, 20 minutes
manarae - 3 days, 14 hours, 4 minutes
sauce - 11 days, 13 hours, 42 minutes
pregnancy - 1 day, 15 hours, 29 minutes
shysty - 18 hours, 11 minutes
unavailable - 9 hours, 8 minutes
phala - 4 days, 2 hours, 19 minutes
luul - 3 days, 15 hours, 34 minutes
nirahccas - 7 hours, 21 minutes
sacked - 13 days, 13 hours, 15 minutes
emulsifier - 20 days, 14 hours, 42 minutes

so.. total

days: 117 + 2 + 5 + 1 + 1 + 2 +1 +16+3+11+1+4+3+13+20 = 200. heh!
hours: 11+3+1+15+20+6+9+9+17+18+10+14+13+15+18+9+2+15+7+13+14 = 239 hours
minutes: 11+5+57+44+59+45+48+59+3+14+20+4+42+29+11+8+19+34+21+15+42 = 590 minutes

590/60 = 9.83, so 9 hours, and 50 minutes

239+9 = 248/24 = 10.333, so 10 days, 8 hours

210 days, 8 hours, 50 minutes.

sorry but you're wrong. drugs were not legalized, they were "decriminalized". and yes, that is a difference ;-) fines have been reduced, but only if you do not possess an amount of more than 10 days of personal usage, whatever that may be.

Check this out...
May 6, 2010

Yesterday, Columbia Police Chief Ken Burton and Mayor Bob McDavid convened a news conference...

Burton said yesterday that investigators should not have executed the warrant because the information was too old. The warrant ... was executed eight days after Boone County Associate Circuit Judge Leslie Schneider approved it. Burton said the state allows police 10 days to execute a signed warrant, and he thinks Columbia officers should have done so immediately...

“It’s my opinion that it needs to be served as soon as possible,” Burton said of the warrant. “The contraband can be disposed of. It they are going to do that, there is not much point in serving the warrant.”

“It was not a mistake to shoot the pit bull,” Burton said. “I wouldn’t be standing here if an officer had been bitten by a pit bull instead of the reverse happening.”

But, back when the incident initially happened...
February 23, 2010

Because the SWAT team acts on the most updated information available, the team wanted to enter the house before marijuana believed to be at the location could be distributed, [police spokeswoman Officer Jessie Haden] said.

“If you let too much time go by, then the drugs are not there,” she said.

If the SWAT team believed they could have executed the warrant successfully during the daytime when the wife and child were not present, they would have, she said.

And now the rest of the story...

Information provided by an informant led investigators to believe Whitworth was in possession of a large amount of marijuana and was considered a distributor. In 2003, Whitworth pleaded guilty to conspiracy to distribute cocaine and marijuana in federal court and was ordered to serve 15 months in federal prison, according to court documents.

Some friend of his probably got arrested and given a deal for being informant (even if the information was made up). The police assumed guilt based upon prior history.

On the dog issue, doesn't SWAT wear like bulletproof vest and heavy duty tactical outfits? Certainly the lead person could have some way of handling a dog and shoot it after it attacks someone. You are attacking someones private property so in my opinion the dog has more business being there. Also, I have a feeling the dog was in his crate, but not locked in. ie. the dog sleeps in his crate and was in his crate but came out and was barking at officers and they shot it. I doubt the shot a dog just to stop it from barking.

Now explain to me what kind of asshole shoots a corgi in the leg?? So maybe they were just looking for animals to execute.

Seems like a fraudster doctor is involved.... He pushed this breatarian shit forever.. wonder if he isn't slipping this guy stuff..

I'm guessing the doctor here will get a shit ton of $$$ to further study this field.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inedia
Further, his weight did drop slightly during the 10 days, casting some doubt on his claim to go indefinitely without food. The Indian Rationalist Association labels him a "village fraud"


Also, he already did this for 10 days..
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/asiapcf/south/11/26/offbeat.india.fast/

^geez, some of you guys have obviously never shopped for or with a female-$50 bucks is the going rate for a matching bra and panties that doesn't wear out in 10 days.

I know a few girls who would say the same thing about this monstrosity...."How do I pee?"

Answer: Take it off, take it all off.

^Sagemind, don't let lazy stop you-you have had the stamina and dedication to flattening your ass in that chair that got you to where you are today on the site-editing software I have and never use it-will one day, but you do not have time to be dilly-dallying with it now.

Take your inspiration for creation, and enroll in the Roger Corman school of film. "Cut, excellent, beautiful, move on to scenes 14-91." You have 10 days to give the producers a can of fertilizer for the premiere in Hoboken. One take wonders hit every 5th-7th time....just look at the kids who produced the ultimately unwatchable and highly successful, Blair Witch Project. Amazing what pot and fake butter can do to an audience. Take out your camera, write the script onna cocktail napkin and roll camera.

Here are a few tips to remember, elements that win every time with gullible audiences of freaks, geeks, tweaks, and the uni-dimensional meek, the latter being the ones that Frank Zappa reminded, will inherit nothing.

Nudity: Tasteful snippets of T&A (no P, unless it's a passing flash that keeps the audience wanting more or wondering if that was what they think it was), will distract an audience from content or lack of inherent talent...use sparingly, or folks may become jaded, dysfunctional social rejects.

Profanity: No film that has ever placed in the last 40 years is without it...use sparingly, do not use any of my contributions as an example.

Set: Provide the viewer with enough to occupy their feeble minds in the BACKGROUND, to distract them from the script that looked great yesterday, but stinks like foreign cheese after the drugs have worn off the next....litter the scene with props, gadgetry and eye-candy...try dumping a garbage can on the floor and re-arranging it a few times, perhaps....(HINT:most props are made of cardboard, plaster, or Styrofoam.)

Fire: Cheap and ever present, combustibles make for good cinema....think of all the chick flicks you have had to suffer, without smoke, there can be no flames.

Actors/Actresses-Optional elements of any film, these are like friends...-dime-a-dozen clutter which distract from the task at hand-employ the services of the homeless, have animals do your bidding, stack Barbies or plastic army men to the ceiling, and roll camera....insects work well too, they are always in character.

Hope this helped.

>> ^dgandhi:
...While I agree with that in theory, I challenge you to name one scientific institution which makes all its employees e-mails, code and raw data sets public.
The fact of the matter is that we live in an IP crazed world, and universities and research institutions hold on to intellectual property because their presidents/boards of directors/funders require them to.
Every idea is guarded, and yes, this does significant harm to the scientific process, but that has nothing to do with whether or not the CRU is committing scientific fraud.
THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS HERE IS IF CRU IS COMMITTING FRAUD, no amount of ad-hominem will make their findings fraudulent, only pre-existing suppressed scientific evidence can do that.
These folks need to stop their media blitz and go find the data that they are so sure exists, anything else is psudo-scientific nonsense, and is undeserving of attention.


I don't disagree, and I actually think that it is fine for them to keep data, methods, etc. private while they are being studied. But at the point that they want anyone to take action on them, it has to be opened up. I just mean that the burden of proof needs to be on the AGW supporting people, and if they want us to take action to prevent "catastrophic climate change" at some point in the future, they had better be able to show beyond any reasonable doubt that:
A) Our current use of fossil fuels and other energy sources that emit CO2 and other gases contribute to a greenhouse effect AND
B) The effects of CO2 output and any increased greenhouse gases will have serious, major implications in the climate, and those implications are fully understood and provable.

For item B there to be proven, the prediction models have to be complete and reliable. People using Keplerian formulas can tell you where the moon or other satellites will be in the sky 10 days, 1 year, or 100 years from today with almost perfect accuracy. Weathermen are frequently wrong about what the temperature will be tomorrow. I know that isn't a completely fair analogy, but the I think that the Global Warming models need to stand up to this level of scrutiny and a lot more, particularly if they want us to take major actions based on them.

Right after my kid had her transplant, we were in the ICU for 10 days and she was heavily immunosuppressed. I had to remind several doctors to wash their hands and they did NOT like it.

You need to get a job selling Crack!
http://www.videosift.com/video/WoW-Intervention
I think I saw you in that clip Gwiz...

>> ^gwiz665:
Oh come on.. just a little bit. The first 10 days is free....
>> ^Sagemind:
I just can't go there...
After the whole Diablo II thing, that took me almost five years to kick - and awe man was I good...
I'm swearing off the gamming for a bit and by the way, that's what brought me here, it gave me a reason to "not" log on and go MFing with my Zon! ( glancing over at my Diablo II Expansion disk...)
Edit: Also, Diablo II was free to play, I expect my marriage would end if I started WOW!

Oh come on.. just a little bit. The first 10 days is free....

>> ^Sagemind:
I just can't go there...
After the whole Diablo II thing, that took me almost five years to kick - and awe man was I good...
I'm swearing off the gamming for a bit and by the way, that's what brought me here, it gave me a reason to "not" log on and go MFing with my Zon! ( glancing over at my Diablo II Expansion disk...)

Edit: Also, Diablo II was free to play, I expect my marriage would end if I started WOW!

According to the Snopes article this Charter High School (in California not Australia) enacted the policy without being submitted to or approved by the school board, which failed students with 2 weeks worth of absences (10 days) REGARDLESS of academic achievement. If I were a student or parent at the school I'd be pissed too. And I hear their buses and school lunches suck as well. I'd like to punch those arrogant self-impotent teachers in the face. Which number was that again?

^ I'd said "that I can recall in the last few years". Clinton is over 10 years ago. Condit I had to look up who he even was (and his scandal was 8 years ago). Other than Frank being gay, I had to look up what scandal you're talking about, and that one was 20 years ago.

Paterson didn't really have a scandal, so much as the day he was sworn in he said "here are all the skeletons in my closet", including admitting to an affair years before he'd become Lt. Governor.

I'll admit Ohio AG is sticks, but Kilpatrick was mayor of Detroit, and Blagojevich was Governor of Illinois. I'd forgotten about Newsom, but if Kilpatrick is sticks, so is the mayor of SF.

I've not heard much about the Charlie Rangel thing lately, but the whole thing seemed a bit tame, and more of a "he screwed up" than "he intentionally broke the law". You're also way overstating the Tim Geithner thing -- he owed back taxes, and paid them. The commentary surrounding the discrepancy was that it's a common mistake for people to make on their taxes, even if they use a professional.

Edwards, you make an interesting case. Perhaps as an outsider you might not know about how the party insiders reacted to his affair, but most people in the grassroots were furious with him -- not because we think his personal indiscretions disqualify him -- but because he was an early favorite in the grassroots, and had he won the primary he might've handed the White House to the gang of thugs known as the Republican party.

Lately there's been a quiet murmur about missing his voice on the issue of poverty, but I've not heard of any serious attempts for him to recover his image. To be honest, I'd like to see him try, because I think his voice would add to the party, assuming he can get public absolution for being a jerk to his wife (who the grassroots almost like more than him).

Personally, I don't care about sex scandals. They are really none of our business at all. I think people in office should be judged more on their execution of their state-granted responsibilities than what they do in their personal life.

I actually feel a slim bit of sympathy for Mark Sanford since he seems to have a rather serious personal issue to work through, and having public scrutiny doesn't help with that. But I think he needs to resign for the "I'm leaving the country for 10 days and telling no one" part of the story. I don't care that he was going away to have sex for those 10 days. In fact that was almost a relief to me, I was worried it'd turn out to be some ugly weapons deal or drug dealing kind of thing (like Reagan and Iran-Contra...).

>> ^chilaxe:
Is adultery cause for resigning? We don't think Clinton should have resigned, so I think it depends on whether or not we think a politician in question is a good person or not. What do you think?


Disappearing from the state for 5 days (10 days planned, supposedly), without telling staff and family where you're going, without security, or a way to be contacted, is probably grounds for calling for resignation.

Also, vehemently trying to turn down stimulus is also probably grounds for calling for resignation, but that's just me...

I think the affair is none of our business, except for the exceptional hypocrisy, given how holier than thou he's been in the past, especially with regard to one William Jefferson Clinton.

^I don't think you have researched this topic enough to make accurate conclusions.

Chickens can eat grass, which if you have a yard which you would otherwise have to mow every week, is a free source of chicken food.

You will never be able to buy produce for cheaper then you can produce it yourself. Even if you have to grow it indoors and pay electricity it would be cheaper.

You say that 10 square meters is impossible to grow $1800 of food a year. If you space, tomato plants for example, so that each takes 0.5 meters squared, you can grow 20 plants in a 10 square meter area. Using aeroponics, each plant matures in approximately 10 days. Mature tomato plants can produce up to 20-30 lbs of fruit, so with this modest setup you could achieve:

20 plants x 36 harvests x 20/30 lbs fruit = 14,400 lbs min/21,600 lbs max of tomatoes per year. Sold at $2 a lb, that would be $28,800-$43,200 a year.

aeroponics recycles both water and fertilizer, so your costs would be very low. Using new LED grow lights, you can cover approximately 1 square meter for only 30 watts. So a 10 meter squared setup would require 300 watts of grow lights running 12 hours a day 365 days a year (just to compare, your computer uses 400-600+ watts).

Energy costs: 300 watts * 12 hours * 365 days / $0.05 per kilowatt hour = $65.70 annual cost.

Yearly profit after startup costs: $28,800 - $65.70 = $28,734.30

To make $1800, you would only have to harvest 3 times a year with all 20 plants, or harvest 10 times a year with only 5 plants (2.5 meters squared). Even with only a single meter squared, you could make $2,880 a year if you harvested all 36 times.

The science is there...you just aren't taking advantage of it

*As an aside, why are you arguing with me over well documented information? Presumably you have the internet, why don't you use it?

I don't think theres any basis for these statements.

>> ^jwray:
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Probably half the population lives in places that are too densely populated to have significant vegetable gardens

68.1% of Americans owned homes in 2007. Of those, almost all of them have at least 600 square feet (0.01377 acres) somewhere in their yards.

Even those living in apartments have enough space. With modern aeroponics, you can acheive 20-30x the yield of traditional agriculture in the same space. 600/30 = 30 feet squared. That is only a 6' x 5' space.

Besides, that takes time, and time is money.

Using aeroponics, a tomato plant can grow from seedling to mature plant with fruit in 10 days. Even with traditional methods, a tomato plant yields fruit in under 50 days. With canning, you can have fresh fruit all year round. Tending to a garden takes less than 30 minutes a day, and a full garden can be planted in a single day. Time is money, but so is food. Tomatoes sell for 2-3$ a lb and a single plant can yield 20-30 lbs of fruit.

Division of labour and specialization is efficient.

Modern, large-scale monocultures are not more efficient, nor will they ever be. The fuel costs alone in transporting them to your house will be larger than the time and money involved in growing them yourself.

Like I said, you can spend $2 for a dozen eggs, or you can buy a chicken for 5$ which will give you 365 eggs a year. 5$ or 182$...thats a difference of 1600%.

To address your original question though...yes the government is to blame for those prices being higher. In terms of raw material costs, grain should be almost 10x cheaper to produce than eggs; as dictated by the laws of biology.