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zor says...

I posted this. Maybe some others will chime in: http://videosift.com/video/Australia-Case-study-1-helps-us-understand-the-NRAs-power
It may be asking people too much to focus the discussion. Let's see.

oritteropo said:

I can answer that easily, the vast majority of Australians including myself think that every word the NRA writes about Australia is a lie. Their videos take very old information out of context, and spin it into a story about another Australia and not the one we know and live in. Certainly there are some Aussies who like guns and look enviously at the U.S., and it therefore wouldn't be hard to fine one or two (out of 24 million) who will stand up and say "they took our guns!!!", but the majority are happy enough with the current laws... which is not to say they are perfect, because they aren't... they were drafted by clowns and have some really strange aspects (see @harlequinn's comment re competition pistol shooters for instance).

I don't think our legislation would suit the U.S. without some changes anyway, even apart from the dumb bits, it took into account the types of weapons common here and generally allowed people to own those types of weapon if they demonstrated a genuine need... so the list of allowed weapons would be very different in the U.S. than here. It was really just aligning all the state laws into one uniform national law rather than a lot of new controls (another point willfully ignored in the NRA articles btw, which assume a single date when everybody's guns were confiscated... wtf???).

The good part of our law is the idea that you don't just leave firearms lying around: only own them if you need them, keep them secured, if you don't need them any longer get rid of them.

Not that it really affects me either way, but it does seem to me that most of the most obvious firearms reforms in the U.S. are just reversing some things that the NRA lobbying has done over the past 20 years, and closing a few loopholes in current laws, rather than copying the Australian legislation to the letter.

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