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gorillaman says...

Took me a while to notice your comment; I'm not on the sift as often as I used to be.

Of course I think killing all theists would be a good thing. They trespass on humanity's world, breathing our air, consuming our resources and inflicting their miserable little ideas on their betters. How dare they? Honestly, how dare you?

Einstein. Seems like you're accusing him of deism rather than theism, an impression I don't quite get from the article you linked. Nevertheless deism, while reprehensible, is nowhere near the systematic abandonment and desecration of everything good in the world that is the crime of theism.

You don't have to look very hard at those dictionary pages to find the approximate definitions I'm using:

Human -
2. Having or showing those positive aspects of nature and character regarded as distinguishing humans from other animals. [i.e. reason]
Reason -
4. sound judgment; good sense.
5. normal or sound powers of mind; sanity.
7a. the faculty or power of acquiring intellectual knowledge, either by direct understanding of first principles or by argument.
[wholly foreign concepts to the theist]

Condemning people on their beliefs. This is such an important issue; there can be no other criteria for judgement. If the world learns nothing else this century, it must be that.
This monstrous idea has taken hold in our society that people should be allowed to think whatever they want without judgement or consequence, that crime is a function of mere mechanical action rather than the mind. What a person thinks and believes is everything they are; if a person's beliefs are unjustifiable they are a criminal.

I don't debate theists on religion itself because my side already won the argument, hundreds of years ago. You people just haven't caught up yet.

In reply to this comment by SilentPoet:
You must be kidding me.
You make it sound like you think killing all theists would be a good thing.

Tell you what, lets look at Albert Einstein. I believe he was human. Would you disagree?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein#Religious_views

He may not have believed in a personal God, but he did believe there was a God.

Anyhow, I found some other links you may find interesting.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/human

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/reason

You know, I looked it over and not one thing in all those definitions would lead me to believe that theists have a lesser amount of reason or are less of a human being.

Listen, I don't know what kind of person you are, but to consider a human being to be anything less than that simply because of his or her beliefs seems incredibly wrong to me.

When one group is no longer considered human, atrocities tend to happen.

On a lighter note, I tend to think that some theist beliefs aren't all that void of reason. Would you care to argue?

gorillaman says...

Nothing wrong with 'Final Solution kind of things' in principle, that one was just misconceived.

Theists aren't human; human minds are defined by their capacity for reason while the theist defines itself by faith, the antithesis of reason, and therefore cannot be considered human. Elementary.

In reply to this comment by SilentPoet:

I can understand that you do not like what those idiots over at Westboro do to there kids, but that last sentence in your comment is very troubling.

Do not start to see any group as less human.
Ever.
Bad things tend to happen afterwards.
"Final Solution" kind of things.

And just F.Y.I. not all theology teaches kids to murder.

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