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♪Oh moron,
you came and you ruined my classroom
but I watch you today
oh moron ♫

People like this should get [there] their teaching credentials automatically revoked. And how the eff is it legal to teach lies in school? How about historians teaching that the holocaust didn't happen?

>> ^hpqp:

People like this should get theretheir teaching credentials automatically revoked. And how the eff is it legal to teach liesopinions in school? How about historians teaching that the holocaust didn't happen?

>> ^Opus_Moderandi:
>> ^hpqp:
People like this should get theretheir teaching credentials automatically revoked. And how the eff is it legal to teach liesopinions in school? How about historians teaching that the holocaust didn't happen?



Hahha! Good one Opus. I like how people (I am not speaking towards you Opus) point out other morons first, but sometimes we never evaluate the moron within. Good to make Hp see the mirror.

This pastor-ish guy is not dumb, but just idealized. He is not spreading lies but beliefs. And as to how is it legal? How is it not? I think we have a bit too many laws on the books of intolerance. Such as the law against gay marriage, the laws against pot, public nudity, and looking at your wife's email...

There are plenty of dumb beliefs taught, even in school; where to draw the line is a bit harder. I think religion and Earth's creation should be taught in History class, not science. But then, I am one man and not an all-knowing dick.

And please don't spell check/ grammar check my own, I just had nose surgery and am on strong pain meds...

>> ^Lawdeedaw:

>> ^Opus_Moderandi:
>> ^hpqp:
People like this should get theretheir teaching credentials automatically revoked. And how the eff is it legal to teach liesopinions in school? How about historians teaching that the holocaust didn't happen?


Hahha! Good one Opus. I like how people (I am not speaking towards you Opus) point out other morons first, but sometimes we never evaluate the moron within. Good to make Hp see the mirror.
This pastor-ish guy is not dumb, but just idealized. He is not spreading lies but beliefs. And as to how is it legal? How is it not? I think we have a bit too many laws on the books of intolerance. Such as the law against gay marriage, the laws against pot, public nudity, and looking at your wife's email...
There are plenty of dumb beliefs taught, even in school; where to draw the line is a bit harder. I think religion and Earth's creation should be taught in History class, not science. But then, I am one man and not an all-knowing dick.
And please don't spell check/ grammar check my own, I just had nose surgery and am on strong pain meds...


Wow, so I am a moron for making a common grammar mistake (as a French-speaker, mind you). Would you mind telling me the difference between beliefs and lies? If I say objects fall to earth because God wants them to, and not because of gravity, is that an opinion/belief? All the evidence points towards a Holocaust having occured but hey, I believe it's a Zionist conspiracy to occupy Palestine and oppress Muslims... shouldn't I be able to "teach the controversy"?

Yes, there are plenty of intolerant laws (almost all religious-based, hint hint), but because they're (woot, grammarnazically correct!) legal for now doesn't make them right. Remember all those God-given acts and principles that used to be legal (rape, slavery, death penalty for just about everything, etc.)?

Anyway, I said that more in a spirit of social equity... think of all the non-faitheads that are unemployed, surely there are decent, scientifically-minded replacements among them, no? Actually, considering the pitiful state of America's educational system, that might not be the case.

p.s.: you do know that evolution has nothing to do with earth's creation, right?

When all the comments are taken out about how stupid is the other side, we all sound very smart (That was a compliment to you.) God, my wife just screamed about the pantry hurting her... sorry, random, painful thought... I tried not to say you are a moron, I tried to say we all have moron tendencies that come out when telling someone else off.

On your note, you are correct--evolution began life, not the world. I was crossing big bang versus intelligent design versus evolution and creationism. And that cannot be blamed on the Percocet either--since I would have made the same mistake anyways.


As far as those intolerant laws you mention, they are more based on personal gain and okayed through religion than religion-based. I say this because, when we break it down, religion is just another form of governance. People are scared to break another bond "we" all "should" have towards each other... That is sad...

Greed is obvious in slavery, but it is also there in rape (Owning a woman) and the death penalty.
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I used to be big on rhetoric, ie. I was the best at calling out religion, the right, and before, long ago when I was young and quiet foolish, calling out gays. I stopped hating gays for obvious reasons (The fact that I was being an asshole in that regard.) But after John Stewart's rally, and after the little girl died with the assassination attempt in Tuscan, I am going to "attempt" to better myself. I still will argue, but there will be no expectations to win, no placating and no superior point of view. That is for the "other side" of the debate...

And for my wife

>> ^hpqp:
>> ^Lawdeedaw:
>> ^Opus_Moderandi:
>> ^hpqp:
People like this should get theretheir teaching credentials automatically revoked. And how the eff is it legal to teach liesopinions in school? How about historians teaching that the holocaust didn't happen?


Hahha! Good one Opus. I like how people (I am not speaking towards you Opus) point out other morons first, but sometimes we never evaluate the moron within. Good to make Hp see the mirror.
This pastor-ish guy is not dumb, but just idealized. He is not spreading lies but beliefs. And as to how is it legal? How is it not? I think we have a bit too many laws on the books of intolerance. Such as the law against gay marriage, the laws against pot, public nudity, and looking at your wife's email...
There are plenty of dumb beliefs taught, even in school; where to draw the line is a bit harder. I think religion and Earth's creation should be taught in History class, not science. But then, I am one man and not an all-knowing dick.
And please don't spell check/ grammar check my own, I just had nose surgery and am on strong pain meds...

Wow, so I am a moron for making a common grammar mistake (as a French-speaker, mind you). Would you mind telling me the difference between beliefs and lies? If I say objects fall to earth because God wants them to, and not because of gravity, is that an opinion/belief? All the evidence points towards a Holocaust having occured but hey, I believe it's a Zionist conspiracy to occupy Palestine and oppress Muslims... shouldn't I be able to "teach the controversy"?
Yes, there are plenty of intolerant laws (almost all religious-based, hint hint), but because they're (woot, grammarnazically correct!) legal for now doesn't make them right. Remember all those God-given acts and principles that used to be legal (rape, slavery, death penalty for just about everything, etc.)?
Anyway, I said that more in a spirit of social equity... think of all the non-faitheads that are unemployed, surely there are decent, scientifically-minded replacements among them, no? Actually, considering the pitiful state of America's educational system, that might not be the case.
p.s.: you do know that evolution has nothing to do with earth's creation, right?

@HHpqp Now to break things up, here is the answer to lie versus belief. Belief's are based on emotions, lies on personal gain. Like me--I own a big car. I can sell you this great product--pay me. I am morally superior to you--because I believe in a higher power.

I believe God created the Earth--because without God, could we govern ourselves? I believe my mother loves me--because how lonely would I be if I knew she did not? I think most of humanity is good on the inside--though I have proof otherwise...

This pastor-ish man, he is a man steeped in half belief and half lies.

>> ^Lawdeedaw:

@HHpqp Now to break things up, here is the answer to lie versus belief. Belief's are based on emotions, lies on personal gain. Like me--I own a big car. I can sell you this great product--pay me. I am morally superior to you--because I believe in a higher power.
I believe God created the Earth--because without God, could we govern ourselves? I believe my mother loves me--because how lonely would I be if I knew she did not? I think most of humanity is good on the inside--though I have proof otherwise...
This pastor-ish man, he is a man steeped in half belief and half lies.

Good point. Considering that this person presumably studied biology, however, his eventual teaching of creationism (which is contrary to the evidence) would be a clear case of
lying to propagate his beliefs.

What have I done?!?!?!?

True about his what he has learned. It seems this particular guy wants to maintain his own superiority over others, and is out to gain whatever it is that he can. You can definately lie and believe, as you prove.

>> ^hpqp:
>> ^Lawdeedaw:
@HHpqp Now to break things up, here is the answer to lie versus belief. Belief's are based on emotions, lies on personal gain. Like me--I own a big car. I can sell you this great product--pay me. I am morally superior to you--because I believe in a higher power.
I believe God created the Earth--because without God, could we govern ourselves? I believe my mother loves me--because how lonely would I be if I knew she did not? I think most of humanity is good on the inside--though I have proof otherwise...
This pastor-ish man, he is a man steeped in half belief and half lies.

Good point. Considering that this person presumably studied biology, however, his eventual teaching of creationism (which is contrary to the evidence) would be a clear case of
lying to propagate his beliefs.