Put the people who wouldn't protect their employees in fucking jail.

Misleading title. The point he makes is:
"Mine safety is as silly as global warming: They are both deadly serious and not silly at all."

@Zyrxil, I'm open to suggestions on how to more appropriately title this. Keep in mind it's a 60 character max.

I'm relying a little bit on people's recognition of NetRunner being an outspoken hippie, and unlikely to actually think global warming is silly at all to lure them in.

The title is misleading. This video has no context.

I have a mind to down-vote.

Title should be; "West VA Coal Mine Executives Say Something Stupid"

The West Virginia coal mine where an explosion killed 25 workers and left another four unaccounted for in the worst mining disaster since 1984 had amassed scores of citations from mining safety officials, including 57 infractions just last month for violations that included repeatedly failing to develop and follow a ventilation plan.

The federal records catalog the problems at the Upper Big Bra More..nch mine, operated by the Performance Coal Company. They show the company was fighting many of the steepest fines, or simply refusing to pay them. Performance is a subsidiary of Massey Energy. Another Massey subsidiary agreed to pay $4.2 million in criminal and civil fines last year and admitted to willfully violating mandatory safety standards that led to the deaths of two miners. The fine was the largest penalty in the history of the coal industry.

The nation's sixth biggest mining company by production, Massey Energy took in $24 million in net income in the fourth quarter of 2009. The company paid what was then the largest financial settlement in the history of the coal industry for the 2006 fire at the Aracoma mine, also in West Virginia. The fire trapped 12 miners. Two suffocated as they looked for a way to escape. Aracoma later admitted in a plea agreement that two permanent ventilation controls had been removed in 2005 and not replaced, according to published reports.

The two widows of the miners killed in Aracoma were unsatisfied by the plea agreement, telling the judge they believed the company cared more about profits then safety. After the deal, the Massey subsidiary pledged a renewed focus on safety after the fines were levied.

But Bruce Stanley, the attorney who tried the Aracoma Mine accident case, had doubts. He told ABC News Monday there are a lot of similarities between the Aracoma mine and the one involved in this week's tragedy, and he has concerns about Massey's checkered track record on safety issues. Data kept by the Mine Safety and Health Administration show the Upper Big Branch mine has suffered three worker fatalities in last 12 years.

"One can only hope that the level of criminal neglect evident at the Aracoma accident was not repeated at the Upper Big Branch mine," Stanley said Monday night.

After the Aracoma accident, Massey Energy released a statement that said the company "is a recognized leader in safety innovation and performance and remains committed to working with federal and state agencies to fully understand the causes of the accident and to prevent a similar occurrence at Massey Energy or elsewhere in the future."

Monday night, Massey Energy CEO Don Blankenship released a statement saying, "Our top priority is the safety of our miners and the well-being of their families. We are working diligently on rescue efforts and continue to partner with all of the appropriate agencies."

The company is well known in West Virginia, in part because CEO Don Blankenship grew to become a fixture in state politics, doling out thousands of dollars to candidates he favored – most of them Republicans. In 2004, he spent millions on advertising that attacked a West Virginia state Supreme Court justice, leading to the election of challenger Brent Benjamin.

Massey had a $70 million case before the state Supreme Court and, once elected, Benjamin made the controversial decision not to recuse himself because of Blankenship's support of him and to hear arguments anyway. Another member of the court hearing the case was Chief Justice Elliott "Spike" Maynard. He later recused himself after photographs surfaced showing that he vacationed with Blankenship in the French Riviera.

When an ABC News reporter tried to interview Blankenship about the possible conflicts in the parking lot of a Massey Energy office in Belfry, Ky., Blankenship became agitated.

"If you're going to start taking pictures of me, you're liable to get shot," Blankenship told the reporter before grabbing his camera.


Blankenship later told the Charleston Daily Mail he couldn't recall making any threats. "Quite frankly, I don't know what I said except that I know I'm never loud, vulgar or rude to strangers," he said.

The conflicts surrounding the state Supreme Court saga triggered a cascade of changes, including a U.S. Supreme Court ruling that called on judges to recuse themselves when major donors come before them in court, and a vote by the West Virginia legislature to adopt public financing of judicial campaigns.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/west-va-coal-company-deadly-explosion-fined-millions/story?id=10293691&page=2

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ab4_1270570649

There is nothing wrong with the title.
You think you were mislead? Into what? Watching a 34 second video?
It doesn't mischaracterize anything, it emphasizes the point of what's being said.
As for context, read the description.

The Turgler comes to the rescue! "Mine safety is as silly as global warming: They are both deadly serious and not silly at all."Is that not what he said? Perhaps you and I did not watch the same video.

I don't agree with the guy in the video below.

But he said, "The very idea that they care more about coal miner safety is as absurd as global warming."

Given that these coal miners make money on the supply and demand for fossil fuels, in this case the remains of plant life, would probably put them on them on the global warming is absurd side of the argument."

This entire post is very, misleading, aside from the titles apparent shock value. I think Burdturgler had something to say about shock value on the WikiLeaks video.

I don't know why you're dragging the wikileaks thing in here because that's completely unrelated. Look, I'm not trying to be rude, but is English your primary language? My beef with wikileaks was them purposefully editing the actual content of videos for "maximum possible political impact" (their words).

I think your confused about the title and the video. The point is that mine safety and global warming are both serous issues.

>> ^burdturgler:

I don't know why you're dragging the wikileaks thing in here because that's completely unrelated. Look, I'm not trying to be rude, but is English your primary language? My beef with wikileaks was them purposefully editing the actual content of videos for "maximum possible political impact" (their words).
I think your confused about the title and the video. The point is that mine safety and global warming are both serous issues.


Look I'm not trying to be rude, but you can get fucked.

No seriously not trying to be rude. I'm still confused by the video, and the title.

So what's the general opinion of this video? What's it's purpose, because I still don't know and that is my whole problem with the title.

>> ^NordlichReiter:

>> ^burdturgler:
I don't know why you're dragging the wikileaks thing in here because that's completely unrelated. Look, I'm not trying to be rude, but is English your primary language? My beef with wikileaks was them purposefully editing the actual content of videos for "maximum possible political impact" (their words).
I think your confused about the title and the video. The point is that mine safety and global warming are both serous issues.

Look I'm not trying to be rude.
But you can get fucked.


Well said. This is why I hang out here instead of youtube.
It's the enlightening discussions that keep me coming back.

>> ^burdturgler:

>> ^NordlichReiter:
>> ^burdturgler:
I don't know why you're dragging the wikileaks thing in here because that's completely unrelated. Look, I'm not trying to be rude, but is English your primary language? My beef with wikileaks was them purposefully editing the actual content of videos for "maximum possible political impact" (their words).
I think your confused about the title and the video. The point is that mine safety and global warming are both serous issues.

Look I'm not trying to be rude.
But you can get fucked.

Well said. This is why I hang out here instead of youtube.
It's the enlightening discussions that keep me coming back.


Well, why don't you go to live leak?

*Shudders at the thought*

I was just replying to your veiled insult at my heritage.

>> ^burdturgler:

I don't know why you're dragging the wikileaks thing in here because that's completely unrelated. Look, I'm not trying to be rude, but is English your primary language? My beef with wikileaks was them purposefully editing the actual content of videos for "maximum possible political impact" (their words).
I think your confused about the title and the video. The point is that mine safety and global warming are both serous issues.


@NetRunner
"@Zyrxil, I'm open to suggestions on how to more appropriately title this. Keep in mind it's a 60 character max.

I'm relying a little bit on people's recognition of NetRunner being an outspoken hippie, and unlikely to actually think global warming is silly at all to lure them in."

Isn't what wiki leaks did exactly like what Netrunner just...

Bah. I see I've been out maneuvered on every front. You got me this time batman!

>> ^NordlichReiter:

Well, why don't you go to live leak?
Shudders at the thought
I was just replying to your veiled insult at my heritage.

There was NO insult intended at ALL!
First off, not speaking English is not an insult.
Secondly, I realize that I'm on a planet where English is not the primary language for most of it's inhabitants.
There's not much else I can say. If you knew even the slightest thing about me, you would know that insulting you based on your heritage would be the last thing I would do.
Insulting you on your intelligence, now that's a different story.

>> ^burdturgler:

>> ^NordlichReiter:
Well, why don't you go to live leak?
Shudders at the thought
I was just replying to your veiled insult at my heritage.
There was NO insult intended at ALL!
First off, not speaking English is not an insult.
Secondly, I realize that I'm on a planet where English is not the primary language for most of it's inhabitants.
There's not much else I can say. If you knew even the slightest thing about me, you would know that insulting you based on your heritage would be the last thing I would do. Insulting you on your intelligence, now that's a different story.


My intelligence is at 0, I'm gonna need a buff for that. I seriously did not like the title of this video, but it could be my perspective or my frame of reference. I won't ask for my down-vote back, because I still agree with it.

However, I will promote it because of the story behind mines.

*promote

I also want to leave one last link on this video, pictures from Centralia.

http://www.poe-news.com/forums/sp.php?si=&fi=U10295&ti=1001985785&pi=1001985785

Promoting this video back to the front page; last published Thursday, April 15th, 2010 2:01am PDT - promote requested by NordlichReiter.

@NordlichReiter, I don't like this title either, but nothing else I tried really seemed to be a better fit.

I could have gone with something like "Inslee Smacks Down Coal Executive for Being Stupid", but that's probably too long.

Have I mentioned how much I hate the tight limit on title length recently?

>> ^NetRunner:

@<a rel="nofollow" href="http://videosift.com/member/NordlichReiter" title="member since December 14th, 2006" class="profilelink">NordlichReiter, I don't like this title either, but nothing else I tried really seemed to be a better fit.
I could have gone with something like "Inslee Smacks Down Coal Executive for Being Stupid", but that's probably too long.
Have I mentioned how much I hate the tight limit on title length recently?


"Inslee Smacks Down Coal Executive for Being Stupid" seems to be somewhere around 50, kinda sorta. Just a rough guesstimate. In the ballpark. Can't really tell for certain, I'd have to go in there by hand and count each letter one at a time, and there's like 50 of em so it would take awhile, but I think you may be onto something.

Yep, it fits. Title changed.

Suck it, all you people who voted for this thinking NetRunner was posting a video that said Global Warming was silly.

>> ^NetRunner:

Yep, it fits. Title changed.
Suck it, all you people who voted for this thinking NetRunner was posting a video that said Global Warming was silly.


That's not what I thought at all, but I can't say now. I generally thought you where talking about something completely different.

Is this something that you and Blankfist have been doing? I need to bring more then one grain of salt when I look at videos from either of you now.

Son I am disappoint.

>> ^NordlichReiter:

>> ^NetRunner:
Yep, it fits. Title changed.
Suck it, all you people who voted for this thinking NetRunner was posting a video that said Global Warming was silly.
Is this something that you and Blankfist have been doing? I need to bring more then one grain of salt when I look at videos from either of you now.
Son I am disappoint.


No, that's my little attempt at humor at blankfist's expense.

>> ^NetRunner:

>> ^NordlichReiter:
>> ^NetRunner:
Yep, it fits. Title changed.
Suck it, all you people who voted for this thinking NetRunner was posting a video that said Global Warming was silly.
Is this something that you and Blankfist have been doing? I need to bring more then one grain of salt when I look at videos from either of you now.
Son I am disappoint.

No, that's my little attempt at humor at blankfist's expense.


Well, in that case, I forgive you.

The important thing is, I am going to get fucked.

>> ^burdturgler:

The important thing is, I am going to get fucked.


Yes. Yes you are. [grabs lotion bottle]

>> ^burdturgler:

There is nothing wrong with the title.
You think you were mislead? Into what? Watching a 34 second video?
It doesn't mischaracterize anything, it emphasizes the point of what's being said.
As for context, read the description.


Mislead means without lead. Right?

But if you're mislead, you're mislead. What level of severity does the misled have to be before the almighty burdtugler accepts it as being misled?

The title wasn't misleading. Wasn't very informatve but /shrug.

John Oliver - Don Blankenship has been added as a related post - related requested by PlayhousePals on that post.