OK, you win. I'll pack up my stuff and move to.... Wait, where exactly do you want the Israelis to move to?

>> ^demon_ix:
OK, you win. I'll pack up my stuff and move to.... Wait, where exactly do you want the Israelis to move to?


Move to where the food is.

Was there ever any doubt that the worlds governments were committing crimes at every point?

There is only one answer education. You want liberty? Then provide the unbiased truth. If you cannot even in the face of great peril, offer the truth, then you are a coward.

Moreover, a group of people should be able to solve their problems with out violence. Which both of these groups partake in regularly.

>> ^demon_ix:
OK, you win. I'll pack up my stuff and move to.... Wait, where exactly do you want the Israelis to move to?


Come to Australia. We've got more god-forsaken desert than you can beat a war drum at. You guys could bulldoze shit and build fuck off walls that would make the Chinese blush to your hearts content.

"Mama mia, it'sa really war crimes."

>> ^demon_ix:
OK, you win. I'll pack up my stuff and move to.... Wait, where exactly do you want the Israelis to move to?


How does "stop committing war crimes" lead to "I have to move"? Just stop committing war crimes.

>> ^demon_ix:
OK, you win. I'll pack up my stuff and move to.... Wait, where exactly do you want the Israelis to move to?


Are you a war criminal? If so, move directly to jail or hell, your choice.

If you aren't, how about standing up against Israelis who are? Then mebbe one day there will be a lasting peace between the Israelis and the former owners of the country you now occupy.

>> ^acidSpine:
Come to Australia. We've got more god-forsaken desert than you can beat a war drum at. You guys could bulldoze shit and build fuck off walls that would make the Chinese blush to your hearts content.

Australia will let 7-8 million immigrants in?

>> ^alizarin:
How does "stop committing war crimes" lead to "I have to move"? Just stop committing war crimes.

Aside from the white phosphorous, which is illegal and over which there was a big debate and investigation here recently, everything else in this "creepy music" video is just war. Funny how no one is bothered by rockets being placed inside a UN facility, but later are horrified at it becoming a military target.

>> ^Asmo:
Are you a war criminal? If so, move directly to jail or hell, your choice.
If you aren't, how about standing up against Israelis who are? Then mebbe one day there will be a lasting peace between the Israelis and the former owners of the country you now occupy.

Lovely optimism. Nice cut-and-dry war-criminal/innocent terminology there too. I've been hearing about lasting peace ever since I was old enough to understand that some people will blow themselves up for the opportunity to kill me. I would also love to hear about American plans to restore the rights of the former owners of the currently-occupied United States, aka the Native Americans.

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What most people don't seem to grasp, is that there's no one to make peace with at the moment. Fatah controls the west bank mostly, and Hamas controls Gaza. Those two organizations are currently AT WAR with each other. Neither group can be said to be in power over a clear majority of the Palestinian population, and Hamas has made it clear that it will never accept any agreement Fatah makes with Israel.

I want peace. Every Israeli you ask will tell you the same thing. But I want to live, also. I want to be safe. And at the moment, I can't feel safe if I know there's a chance my bus could explode or that a random rocket might land on my roof.

Imagine for a moment that Iraq wasn't on the other side of the world, but rather, shared a border with the US. Let's say in the south. Instead of Mexico.
Now imagine suicide bombers were crossing into Texas on a daily basis, and some terrorist group was firing rockets from Tijuana on San Diego at a rate of 10-15 rockets a day. What would you want your government to do?

A war is when 2 armies are fighting

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They have guns, rockets, mines, uniforms, even parades. How are they not an army?

Was that meant to be an army? Where are the Apache attack helicopters the tanks, fighter jets, the warships the nukes?

I don't doubt your fear is real but Israel is only nibbling at the crust of an enormous turd pie so please don't assume the moral high ground because your troops aren't suicide bombers

>> ^NordlichReiter:
Was there ever any doubt that the worlds governments were committing crimes at every point?
There is only one answer education. You want liberty? Then provide the unbiased truth. If you cannot even in the face of great peril, offer the truth, then you are a coward.
Moreover, a group of people should be able to solve their problems with out violence. Which both of these groups partake in regularly.


The truth is "anti-semitism"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8217042.stm

>> ^acidSpine:
Was that meant to be an army? Where are the Apache attack helicopters the tanks, fighter jets, the warships the nukes?
I don't doubt your fear is real but Israel is only nibbling at the crust of an enormous turd pie so please don't assume the moral high ground because your troops aren't suicide bombers

I fail to see your point. I don't see the Taliban using fighter jets, yet that's ok?

^ EndAll: Netanyahu is a jackass. Liberman (foreign minister) is an idiot. I'm ashamed that both those men are Israel's current face in the world.

Yelling anti-semitism at that Swedish article was ridiculous to anyone who ever experienced it before, and sadly, I'm one of the few who thinks that. Israelis as a whole are a paranoid bunch. That being said, that article was as accurate, unbiased and full of facts as a Fox News report.

The water video was actually enlightening, and I'm going to find out more on the subject soon, since it's the first I've heard about it.

>> ^demon_ix:
I fail to see your point. I don't see the Taliban using fighter jets, yet that's ok?


Is what ok?

Uh huh that's fascinating.

Maybe we should call this one quits for now.

Can't the two just fight it out already and be done with it? I really could care less which side wins; just so long as I don't have to hear about it anymore.

*kill

Permanently discarding this video - kill requested by submitter acidSpine.