Healthcare, Let's Help Each Other

A video response. "UHC is NOT people helping each other; it's politicians helping themselves." [/yt]
packosays...

Canada uses socialized health care... and I haven't had a single issue with it.
Long waits? Mostly propoganda from health insurance companies
Quality of care? No problem with that either... and if we did have issue with that, there is nothing stopping us from going to another Canadian hospital or even going the privatized route

What does it get us?
- cheaper prescriptions
- never turned away due to lack of insurance

Is it perfect? No, of course not... thats why we work on it and try to improve it...
But to assume free market economics will mean you aren't getting swindled is naive... I'd rather have to deal with a government whom i can vote in and out of power, than a corporation who's MAIN goal is to turn a profit, who's got its finger into government, and can hide behind the law (which is slanted to favor them)

The government wouldn't try to give me the least amount of health care possible... because in our system, our people still hold our government accountable... sorta like the US says it does but never follows through on...

Unless of course it involves a president, aide, and a cigar.

The problem is the average American doesn't see their government as themselves... but as a separate entity. No oversight and no control over. We don't see it that way. Sure we have corrupt officials, but for some reason we seem to hold them accountable more than our friends south of the border.

Would you want privatized police... Blackwater would probably be interested in that.
How about fire departments? "We'll need a deposit before we show up. Hope your insurance covers more than just the cost of the fire department showing up."

Skeevesays...

While I wouldn't be overjoyed to be giving a lot of my money to the US government, Americans need to stop freaking out every time someone says "socialism". Every other industrialized nation has "socialized" healthcare and the overwhelming majority have better healthcare than America for less money.

It's not the 1950s anymore, you guys can stop worshiping capitalism and fearing socialism and adopt a healthy medium like the rest of the industrialized world. Blindly adhering to any dogma, whether it's religious, cultural, or economical, is the definition of idiocy.

Zonbiesays...

bugger. mis voted (wrong vid!) - it's an interesting point. but, not really selling the idea, once again this is a pitch Against a Healthcare system this is a right rather than a privalige. I have lived in UK and Sweden, bother with a central healthcare system and this problem is a non issue for me. If you want to see a doctor, you do. If you need medicine, you get it, discounted. Sure I pay through taxes, but I get it, and I don't get rejected or told my treament is "experimental"

This guy making the response, seems to think that a central system (gov. controlled or influenced in this case) is just plain bad. But the truth is, if it is done properly, the results often mean everyone gets the right healthcare. In the UK you can still get private insurance on top of the NHS (and like all insurance this does not cover asthma, and a whole bunch of other (unsupported) ailments.

But as mentioned above, you have the fire brigade and postal service as public services, as well as education. Why is healthcare seen as exempt?

enochsays...

meh...
i have spoken about this in the past and have no urge to postulate further but it seems to me the health insurance industry and it's massive propaganda campaign are working quite well.
this mans arguments are..to put it simply:infantile.
factual errors,red herrings and one big straw man.

let me have a face to face with this man.
i will make him cry like a little girl.

he conflates way too many facets and balls it all into one single premise to further his view.
pathetic.

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