robbersdog49says...

What a load of bias rubbish. Very selective quoting. The ban on fox hunting was nothing to do with human rights, but rather animal cruelty. Foxes can still be hunted, with a gun of all things. You're just not allowed to let your dogs maul them to death because that's cruel. So what they're apparently campaigning against is a load of rubbish, hunting with guns is still legal.

Oh, and so is pistol shooting - you just have to keep your gun at a gun club. The only thing that's illegal is keeping your gun at home.

As for Tony Martin, he's a nutjob. Tony Martin had his gun license revoked in 1994 because he shot at someone who was stealing his apples. Ok, so the guy was on his land and stealing fruit, but it's OK to shoot them? No. No it's not.

There are a lot of inconsistencies in his story of the incident. He claimed to have shot from the stairs having been woken by the break in. He didn't, he was shown to have shot from a downstairs doorway. He was lying in wait for them and ambushed them. He shot the kid that broke in in the back as he was trying to escape.

I'm pretty sure in America the feeling is just that the kid had it coming, he shouldn't have been there. I don't buy into that at all.

Homicide with a gun in the UK: 0.07 per 100,000

Homicide with a gun in the US: 2.97 per 100,000

US rate is more than forty times that of the UK. Which country has broken gun laws? The simple facts are that I'm safer in the UK without a gun than I am in the states with a gun.

Figures found here.

robbersdog49says...

The majority of brits do not feel like the video makes out. The majority of brits do not want any more guns in the country. It really was very selective about what it showed.

Regarding Tony Martin, the general feeling in the UK was that someone should be allowed to defend themselves in their own home, but that he crossed the line. There are all sorts of tall tales in the UK about how the law is massively bias toward the perpetrator, but I've personally found exactly the opposite, and funnily enough anyone who spouts off that the police are against the victims hasn't had that experience themselves, they've just heard that it's the case.

Obviously I can only speak for my circle of acquaintances but the overwhelming feeling is that Americans are gun crazy and that's a bad thing. It's not a 60/40 split, but more like a 99/1 or greater split. We don't want more guns, we want fewer guns. Simple.

Yossariansays...

Trust me there is no appetite whatsoever in the UK for looser gun control.

The fox hunting ban had nothing to do with guns or liberty and everything to do with a bunch of rich country gents wanting to tear apart foxes with dogs. The rest of the country wasn't so sure this was something worth marching about.

And nobody was denying Tony Martin the right to defend his home, although some did think that him shooting the burglar in the back with a shotgun might have been a tad overzealous.

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