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messenger@channel assignment nazis:
The * fail is for failing to understand what capitalism is supposed to be.
messenger... and for the Financial Committee failing in what it is supposed to do.
NetRunnerCenk's prediction: Carolyn Maloney will become the ranking Democratic member of the Finance committee.

What happened: Someone writes an article promoting the idea of Carolyn Maloney becoming the ranking Democrat on the Finance committee.
Cenk's triumphant proclamation: I told you so!
Shouldn't he wait to find out whether he's right or not before doing a 5 minute piece on how right he was?
This channel assignment Nazi thinks fail is totally appropriate, just for completely different reasons.
Boise_Lib@NetRunner do you think Cenk would rather be right on this--or have Maxine Waters as the Chairperson of the Finance Committee?
It hasn't happened yet, but Cenk can see the wholly owned media positioning for it to happen--and he's showing us. Do you think that the article proposing exactly what Cenk predicted is a coincidence?
NetRunnerThese days, I have no idea. I could easily see Cenk responding to Maxine Waters getting the spot by saying she only got it because she sold out to the banks herself.
The problem I have with Cenk is that he always presents this sort of thing with highly cynical spin. Like, why make the theme of the rant "Democrats are gonna sell us out", instead of "Maxine Waters would be awesome, and she's going to face a lot of opposition, so let's get her back, write to Nancy Pelosi and tell her you want Maxine representing the Democrats in the Finance Committee..."
You're communicating the same facts, but instead of making it into some slam against Democrats in general, you make it into a rallying cry to progressives to support one of their champions.
>> ^Boise_Lib:
@NetRunner do you think Cenk would rather be right on this--or have Maxine Waters as the Chairperson of the Finance Committee?
It hasn't happened yet, but Cenk can see the wholly owned media positioning for it to happen--and he's showing us. Do you think that the article proposing exactly what Cenk predicted is a coincidence?
messengerCenk would only say that Waters had sold out to the banks if it were demonstrably true. He's big on backing up his statements with facts. He would never just speculate that she "must have" sold out. On the contrary, if she gets the position, he'll be happy, admit his mistake (now that he's doubled down, he's going to have to bring it up), and probably comment on how good it is that the powers that be didn't get their way.
As for his spin, yeah, that's his show. He's not an organizer. He just provides stories and commentary. And if you watch his show and understand what he's talking about, he's providing all the information you need to form your own opinion on what to do. The last thing he would ever do is tell someone the appropriate reaction to a story.
Also, Cenk might not do that because a few letters aren't going to counterbalance the millions in campaign contributions, and that problem is one of his favourite points to make, so it would be pretty weak for him to turn around and tell people to write in.>> ^NetRunner:
These days, I have no idea. I could easily see Cenk responding to Maxine Waters getting the spot by saying she only got it because she sold out to the banks herself.
The problem I have with Cenk is that he always presents this sort of thing with highly cynical spin. Like, why make the theme of the rant "Democrats are gonna sell us out", instead of "Maxine Waters would be awesome, and she's going to face a lot of opposition, so let's get her back, write to Nancy Pelosi and tell her you want Maxine representing the Democrats in the Finance Committee..."
You're communicating the same facts, but instead of making it into some slam against Democrats in general, you make it into a rallying cry to progressives to support one of their champions.
NetRunnerSure he would. This whole video is him speculating that Carolyn Maloney will be the Democratic Party's ranking member in the finance committee, because that's who the banksters want.
And then he spends 5 minutes crowing about how right he is because an article got published in a newspaper that pretty clearly indicated banksters like her. So what? Only crazy Republicans think the newspapers work for the Democratic party.
Plus, every quote he took from the article was sourced to someone on Wall Street's side. Where's a source from, say, someone in the Democratic party who's part of the decision-making process? Nowhere to be found in Cenk's piece. But, in the article he's sourcing all this from, there's this:
And this:
And this:
Oh, so Nancy Pelosi, the CBC, and Maxine herself all think she's a lock? Well, that would kinda undercut Cenk's anti-Democratic spin, so he doesn't mention any of that.
Cenk's whole show seemed to just be a vehicle for bashing Democrats, often for things they aren't actually guilty of doing. Like...this whole thing about Carolyn Maloney, which is 100% speculation!
At this point he honestly seems to me like some sort of Karl Rove creation designed to depress Democratic turnout and liberal activism.
>> ^messenger:
Cenk would only say that Waters had sold out to the banks if it were demonstrably true. He's big on backing up his statements with facts. He would never just speculate that she "must have" sold out.
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