Cenk Loves It When Cenk Is Right

...and Cenk is right. Talk about having your finger on the pulse.
NetRunnersays...

Cenk's prediction: Carolyn Maloney will become the ranking Democratic member of the Finance committee.

What happened: Someone writes an article promoting the idea of Carolyn Maloney becoming the ranking Democrat on the Finance committee.

Cenk's triumphant proclamation: I told you so!

Shouldn't he wait to find out whether he's right or not before doing a 5 minute piece on how right he was?

This channel assignment Nazi thinks fail is totally appropriate, just for completely different reasons.

Boise_Libsays...

@NetRunner do you think Cenk would rather be right on this--or have Maxine Waters as the Chairperson of the Finance Committee?

It hasn't happened yet, but Cenk can see the wholly owned media positioning for it to happen--and he's showing us. Do you think that the article proposing exactly what Cenk predicted is a coincidence?

NetRunnersays...

These days, I have no idea. I could easily see Cenk responding to Maxine Waters getting the spot by saying she only got it because she sold out to the banks herself.

The problem I have with Cenk is that he always presents this sort of thing with highly cynical spin. Like, why make the theme of the rant "Democrats are gonna sell us out", instead of "Maxine Waters would be awesome, and she's going to face a lot of opposition, so let's get her back, write to Nancy Pelosi and tell her you want Maxine representing the Democrats in the Finance Committee..."

You're communicating the same facts, but instead of making it into some slam against Democrats in general, you make it into a rallying cry to progressives to support one of their champions.

>> ^Boise_Lib:

@NetRunner do you think Cenk would rather be right on this--or have Maxine Waters as the Chairperson of the Finance Committee?
It hasn't happened yet, but Cenk can see the wholly owned media positioning for it to happen--and he's showing us. Do you think that the article proposing exactly what Cenk predicted is a coincidence?

messengersays...

Cenk would only say that Waters had sold out to the banks if it were demonstrably true. He's big on backing up his statements with facts. He would never just speculate that she "must have" sold out. On the contrary, if she gets the position, he'll be happy, admit his mistake (now that he's doubled down, he's going to have to bring it up), and probably comment on how good it is that the powers that be didn't get their way.

As for his spin, yeah, that's his show. He's not an organizer. He just provides stories and commentary. And if you watch his show and understand what he's talking about, he's providing all the information you need to form your own opinion on what to do. The last thing he would ever do is tell someone the appropriate reaction to a story.

Also, Cenk might not do that because a few letters aren't going to counterbalance the millions in campaign contributions, and that problem is one of his favourite points to make, so it would be pretty weak for him to turn around and tell people to write in.>> ^NetRunner:

These days, I have no idea. I could easily see Cenk responding to Maxine Waters getting the spot by saying she only got it because she sold out to the banks herself.
The problem I have with Cenk is that he always presents this sort of thing with highly cynical spin. Like, why make the theme of the rant "Democrats are gonna sell us out", instead of "Maxine Waters would be awesome, and she's going to face a lot of opposition, so let's get her back, write to Nancy Pelosi and tell her you want Maxine representing the Democrats in the Finance Committee..."
You're communicating the same facts, but instead of making it into some slam against Democrats in general, you make it into a rallying cry to progressives to support one of their champions.

NetRunnersays...

Sure he would. This whole video is him speculating that Carolyn Maloney will be the Democratic Party's ranking member in the finance committee, because that's who the banksters want.

And then he spends 5 minutes crowing about how right he is because an article got published in a newspaper that pretty clearly indicated banksters like her. So what? Only crazy Republicans think the newspapers work for the Democratic party.

Plus, every quote he took from the article was sourced to someone on Wall Street's side. Where's a source from, say, someone in the Democratic party who's part of the decision-making process? Nowhere to be found in Cenk's piece. But, in the article he's sourcing all this from, there's this:

“For Nancy Pelosi, Maxine is a three-fer,” said one congressional staffer, noting that it will be Ms. Pelosi who ultimately makes the determination if Democrats retake control. “She is a fellow Californian, she is an African-American woman, and it is her turn.”

And this:
“A lot of folks in the CBC [Congressional Black Caucus] would not look too kindly on an outside challenge,” said one Capitol Hill lobbyist. “They want to go back to the seniority system.”

And this:
For her part, Ms. Waters seems confident her long service will carry her through. “Let me let you in on a secret: I am the senior-most person serving on the Financial Services Committee,” she told the 2012 California State Democratic Convention last month. “Barney Frank is about to retire, and guess who’s shaking in their boots? The too-big-to-fail banks and financial institutions and all of Wall Street because Maxine Waters is going to be the next chair of the Financial Services Committee.”


Oh, so Nancy Pelosi, the CBC, and Maxine herself all think she's a lock? Well, that would kinda undercut Cenk's anti-Democratic spin, so he doesn't mention any of that.

Cenk's whole show seemed to just be a vehicle for bashing Democrats, often for things they aren't actually guilty of doing. Like...this whole thing about Carolyn Maloney, which is 100% speculation!

At this point he honestly seems to me like some sort of Karl Rove creation designed to depress Democratic turnout and liberal activism.

>> ^messenger:

Cenk would only say that Waters had sold out to the banks if it were demonstrably true. He's big on backing up his statements with facts. He would never just speculate that she "must have" sold out.

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