Australia: Case study #1 helps us understand the NRA's power

I propose that Australia is the #1 best argument that the NRA has ever had and in all ways the base of their power and influence.

This is not a good place to argue pro/con gun control. Instead, put yourself in the shoes of US citizens who see videos like this and discuss why we find ourselves in the place we do now where even basic legislation won't move. It doesn't matter here whether it should or shouldn't pass what matters is why we see things in the US the way we do.

There are some tremendous differences between the US and Australia beginning with the size of the populations, the type of government and other things. The best discussion possible here is about how the NRA (and others) can make such a powerful case using Australia specifically as an example.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Australia
oritteroposays...

Is this a dupe of http://videosift.com/video/Australias-Gun-Control-Program or just the same source material slightly differently packaged?

In any case, it's only talking about South Australia (population 1.65 million out of an Australian population of 24 million) and specifically about a period of South Australian history between the 1996 National Agreement on Firearms and 2001 when Trevor Griffin left office.

I think the original program was probably talking about the ineffectiveness of the South Australan police force at the time, but it has little if any relevance to either the U.S. or to the other 90% of Australia.

You could probably still find a handful of people who would say similar things, but most people support the current regulations.

siftbotsays...

Moving this video to zor's personal queue. It failed to receive enough votes to get sifted up to the front page within 2 days.

chingalerasays...

For the sake of the simplest of glaring facts of the American paradigm surrounding firearms comes this thought:
To radically adjust laws and regulations concerning ANY type of weapon or firearms (including those black-powder boom-sticks that don't fit the definition of firearm) in the U.S. would mean that the criminal class which legislation and laws have CREATED through years of designed manipulation of systems, would now become an empowered and an immediate threat to the average law-abiding citizens of cities of a million or more and their outlying areas, OVERNIGHT.

Stop creating hind-brained killers, return critical thinking and common sense to one generation, and people will begin again to motherfucking govern their goddamn selves, or be planted. If Quakers and Shakers can do it, anyone can.

America can't have sane gun legislation while the prison industry, law enforcement, and all the special interest associated are being stroked by the fucks they put in places of power to perpetuate the force and violence.

Guns are tools, period. Humans are capable of using tools and have free will. Period. Laws are for monkeys to control through force, other monkeys. Period.

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