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VideoSift 4.0 Roundtable (Sift Talk Post)

Deano says...

>> ^dannym3141:
>> ^Deano:
^Personally I like to comment because I feel others might benefit/enjoy it, not because I'm going to get a power or star point.
And this is a video posting site. If there's a better aggregator out there then link to it.

Several things - in that case, why not post videos for this reason and not for getting star points? Don't act like i'm a prostitute because i like to see my quality contributions acknowledged in the same way you do.
Secondly, it's almost not to do with the fact that star points aren't awarded, it's probably more to do with the fact that they were REMOVED, leaving me (a comment only bronze star member - intentionally so) feeling that i'm worthless to the site. I'd say my comments are more valuable than a lot of the videos upvoted by the circle-jerks on the site.



First point: you're forgetting the raison d'etre of the site. To sift out the best video. So this requires a voting mechanism and it reasonably follows that you accord some status to those who submit the best clips in order to encourage more submissions. It's a metagame that clearly engages alot of people even though ultimately it's inconsequential. Also there are a good many here who like to submit video that is appreciated by others. I've been here since around 2006 and I'm not getting a Diamond anytime soon. I don't care. I do like powerpoints though. Helping good video make it through is rewarding.

Second point: you have posted about this issue before. You seem to be the only one that deeply concerned about it presumably because you dug that part of the metagame. But sometimes the rules of the game changes - you either play on or leave the field. Personally I think it's an odd obsession particularly when it leaves you feeling "worthless". And that comment about "circle-jerks" comes across as bitter. Seriously an entertainment site shouldn't leave you feeling this way.

VideoSift 4.0 Roundtable (Sift Talk Post)

dannym3141 says...

>> ^Deano:
^Personally I like to comment because I feel others might benefit/enjoy it, not because I'm going to get a power or star point.
And this is a video posting site. If there's a better aggregator out there then link to it.


Several things - in that case, why not post videos for this reason and not for getting star points? Don't act like i'm a prostitute because i like to see my quality contributions acknowledged in the same way you do.

Secondly, it's almost not to do with the fact that star points aren't awarded, it's probably more to do with the fact that they were REMOVED, leaving me (a comment only bronze star member - intentionally so) feeling that i'm worthless to the site. I'd say my comments are more valuable than a lot of the videos upvoted by the circle-jerks on the site.

Siftquisition of feature Siftquisition (User Poll by Ornthoron)

Ornthoron says...

And yes, I know this is being discussed in the 4.0 Roundtable, but I've been having this poll churning in my head for a while now and think it is sufficiently black and white to warrant its own poll. Hopefully we can get the question resolved and consentrate on other parts of the upgrade.

VideoSift 4.0 Roundtable (Sift Talk Post)

evil_disco_man says...

>> ^blankfist:
^It could be a complete coincidence that he just happened to downvote my entire queue because it's terrible, or maybe he did so out of spite for whatever reason?
Either way apparently the reason for his downvoting spree is moot because 187rasch should be the guiding voice in that matter. If that's the case, cool. I know a lot of queues on here that could use a huge downvote spree. Who's gonna set that precedent?


Not at all, blanky. Actually, it was pure coincidence. I've decided to be a little more aggressive with my downvotes, which I think everyone should, and that started tonight... beginning with the Unsifted stuff, then moving on to viewing all the top sifts from the last month and downvoted the ones I think are lame, for my own personal reasons. Check it out for yourself - all of the downvotes are pretty random as far as users go.

Simple as that; no hard feelings. I've upvoted plenty of your stuff and have even promoted some.

VideoSift 4.0 Roundtable (Sift Talk Post)

VideoSift 4.0 Roundtable (Sift Talk Post)

mauz15 says...

>> ^dag:
What do you mean by adding a blocked flag - something beyond what we have now, I'm assuming?

>> ^mauz15:
- Please add a blocked flag
- Thumbnails! Many videos are at a disadvantage due to lack of thumbnails.



Sorry, I should have phrased that better. I mean a blocked checkbox in the submission process. Just like we have a brief, long, and NSFW checkbox in the submission, and modify video details pages.

VideoSift 4.0 Roundtable (Sift Talk Post)

VideoSift 4.0 Roundtable (Sift Talk Post)

VideoSift 4.0 Roundtable (Sift Talk Post)

*eia rename suggestion: *fail (Eia Talk Post)

doogle says...

Ah, thanks Kronos

Perhaps there should be a broad sifttalk about abandoned/neglected. There are some fine channels created and some exemplary Channel moderators who do a great job. I'm sure we can learn from both and raise the bar for all channels and take some load off others.

Perhaps it would help to have a sort of roundtable about overall channel direction? Maybe start with a sort of Report card? Recognize the exemplary moderators, assess the state of these channels?

And take a review of the intention for having channels, if they are meeting it, and what options are possible. I don't think this is well known.

Because let's face it, bad channels look bad for VideoSift.

VideoSift 3.3 Roundtable (Sift Talk Post)

VideoSift 3.3 Roundtable (Sift Talk Post)

prisonpanda says...

>> ^MarineGunrock:
1. Top rated comments box.
2. Ability to search by channel.
3. Discard that fucking Jake video.
4. A minimum of a confirmation dialog when downvoting a video.
5. Ability to change a vote would be nice given a time frame. Many times I've voted early and then regretted it because of the last bit of video.
6. Bi-monthly blowjobs from blankfist
7. A votemerge system. Whether it's from a comment (not technically feasible, I know) or a Diamond ability to actually edit how many votes a video has - whether they be empty votes or actually tied to a sifter. Make it peer-reviewed by up to three other diamonds or an admin. There could be a link to the dupe showing where the votes came from. You guys are smart, you can think of something.
8. Anal probe Wednesdays


Some good fucking ideas there but a big WTF at;
"Anal probe Wednesdays" ??
"3. Discard that fucking Jake video."
"Bi-monthly blowjobs from blankfist"

VideoSift 3.3 Roundtable (Sift Talk Post)

xxovercastxx says...

>> ^doogle:
WIKI formatting.


This was something I had thought of at one point too. I've spent enough time editing the intranet wiki at work that I've sometimes started using the syntax in comments here and elsewhere.

I can't imagine this will happen, but if it does, for the love of the Unicorn (MHHNBS), don't model it after MediaWiki's horrific syntax! Use something like Creole.

Thylan (Member Profile)

djsunkid says...

The favourite ant downvotes list is mine. You can find it from my profile.

In reply to this comment by Thylan:
Playlists. Some way to search for them, organise them, use them that is meaningful. using your own is easy but not others. Like, theirs a Favourite Ant downvotes playlist out there, and i tried to search for ti, so i could suggest a vid, and couldn't not find it for the life of me. Other peoples public playlists are not ... enough.

Some way to channel assign playlists (possibly by plurality of content (like all the playlist vids are of type Music) or to manually assign. most useful for public.

Vote history by channel. Great to see my upvotes from days of yore. even better to go to the tail end of my music upvotes and relisten to something i haven't heard in a year and forgot about.

VideoSift 3.3 Roundtable (Sift Talk Post)



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