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Olbermann comment on Hillary's RFK statement

doremifa says...

He skirts from comical to angry and I have had a difficult time taking this guy seriously when he intends to be. From blah-smirky-chuckle to raising his voice, addressing the camera makes me shudder to think what this guy's intentions are. And when he builds up a poorly executed statement from Clinton into an false encouragement to assassinate Obama, me thinks Olbermann a megalomaniac, a partial, Dr. Jeckel/Mr. Hyde kind.

When Jim Lehrer or Judy Woodruff starts commenting into the camera or if CSPAN mornings has someone who talks back to the callers then I will have to start watching BBC News for unbias U.S. news.

Olbermann comment on Hillary's RFK statement

10949 says...

I can agree that some people may see his presentation as a bit "dramatic," but megalomaniacal? Unless we see some video evidence of him stating how important and great he himself is, I don't think you can conclude that. Otherwise, I think you would have to admit that anyone who stated an opinion in a dramatic way is a megalomaniac. As for using Murrow's line, well, yeah it probably is a bit presumptuous.

Anyway, I realized after Jon Stewart's appearance on Crossfire that if I was ever going to get anything useful out of these talking-heads shows, I would have to separate the people from the message. In other words, if you had to read what he said, rather than hear him say it, you might think of it differently. In this regard, and in this instance, I think this Olbermann comment (from 7:13 onward) is brilliant.

Olbermann comment on Hillary's RFK statement

doremifa says...

This guy is LAME. Sure, I share his politics but he is ridiculous. Watching this on television I found myself telling him to shut the f**k up. What is up this guy's ass? Megalomaniac who uses the Edward R Murrow line at the end as if he is in the same league. Olbermann is all commentary... like O'Reilly.

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Suicide Scene from Rules of Attraction

oxdottir says...

OK, I'm not going to spend my night going around and around in my head on this. I'm going to say a few things without composing a nice piece:

1. This is my opinion. No, I don't think my opinion is somehow better than yours, but it's strongly felt, as apparently yours is. I did not say you are a sick fuck. I said I had a hard time reconciling that opinion with that of someone I like. I probably shouldn't have said that. I apologize.

2. There are people of good conscience who believe in aspects of the war in iraq. I've heard very convincing arguments about not abandoning the kurds, for instance. Politics is complex. I have no trouble believing people seeing what I see will come to a different conclusion. If I showed someone a 3 minute clip of war atrocities in some unnamed country, without any other context, I would indeed be apalled that, absent any other context, someone would think that film was valuable. This suicide video was THREE MINUTES alone: very easy to draw conclusions. An entire history with more input than one human could even process: not so easy to make black and white.

3. I did not call anyone a megalomaniacal war criminal. I believe the name calling is all in your corner.

4. There is a lot of evidence that viewing suicide increases suicide probability and I know of no evidence for the contrary. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_and_methodology_of_suicide, just for instance. In any case, this clip does NOT talk about the complexity of this victim's mental health. See the whole movie and things may be different. This short clip shows NONE of that. I see no value in it. What you point out as good points in it require significant information from outside the film.

5. I said I was hasty before about condemning people who liked this clip, and I was. However, you've gone out of your way to make sure you and I are on opposite sides. Sure, I pushed you, though I wasn't speaking to you personally (unlike you who are condemning me personally), and I shouldn't have, but I'm not going to edit my words after the fact, so they have to stay. I find it unlikely that I upset you more than this video upset me, but we are not in the same room, so I can't tell.

6. You can fix this. You can make sure your view triumphs: drum up the votes for this video: there is a much larger population of potential up-voters than down-voters so it should be easy. Get other people to show me how judgemental and out-of-touch I am. Get this video into the sift. I mean, clearly this is a crusade for high quality, meaningful videos. You think it is. I think it isn't. I voted, with my one vote, indicating how I saw it. I opined that I hoped many people would vote it down once, and I explained further the depth of my loathing for it later. You, no doubt others, took it personally. That's fine. I'm done here. I doubt I could say any more that would make it better.

Suicide Scene from Rules of Attraction

kronosposeidon says...

Differences of opinion are good, but honestly, I have a much harder time dealing with people I otherwise like saying yes to this gratuitous, disgusting, nauseating, hurtful image than I do dealing with people who think the war in Iraq is rightious or who otherwise espouse political values I abhor: I see the reason for that. I see no reason at all for this. It isn't real. It isn't cautionary. It isn't in context. It's just pathetic.

So let me get this straight: It's much easier for you to deal with a guy like Dick Cheney who sold our nation a bill of goods so we could go to war in which over 5000 Americans and countless Iraqis have actually DIED because he believes the war is righteous, rather than a guy like me who happens to think that the gruesome portrayal of suicide might be realistic enough to persuade certain people to seek help or find help for others that they care about? There's not only no gray area for you, but I'm actually a worse human being because I don't see this clip in the same way that you do? I mean, solely because YOU find it gratuitous, offensive, and unrealistic and yet I don't, this somehow places me on a lower moral plane than the fucking war pigs in Washington because at least they think their cause is "righteous"? Wow, if Cheney ever has to face charges for war crimes he better pray to have you as a judge. All his attorney would have to say is, "Well your honor, at least he's not as bad as that guy who defended a suicide scene from a movie!"

No, you most certainly are NOT alone in experiencing a loss from suicide, but let's spare each other our sob stories because that's really besides the point. Could a scene like this possibly encourage someone to commit suicide? Certainly it's possible. But could a scene like this also dissuade others from taking their own lives? Certainly that's possible too, and unless you somehow have insight into the thinking of every suicidal person on the planet I doubt you'll convince me otherwise. And even more importantly, could people who have friends or loved ones who they know are depressed be moved enough to be more active in finding help for this depressed person after seeing this scene? That is a DEFINITE possibility too. Suicidal people react to the world in ways that aren't entirely predictable anyway, so we can't go making everything they see and hear safe just to protect them, unless you think that the parent of those kids who sued Ozzy Osbourne and Judas Priest because they blame them for their kids suicide have valid cases.

How realistic is this scene? Most persons don't walk this calmly into their own suicides, but as KOMMIE stated this woman already had other mental health issues to begin with so it's not outside the realm of possibilities. Not every suicide is a person standing on a ledge for hours while police, firemen, and family members all try to talk them down. There is a subset of persons just like her who remain calm and collected during the entire process. I know.

To restate, this scene is not at all romanticized or completely unrealistic, nor does it promote suicide, but that makes no difference to you because your opinion is the one that matters most, right? I'm just the devil, worse than Rumsfeld and Cheney because at least they think their cause is righteous while I must be some sick fuck who likes watching snuff scenes. The worst thing I said about this scene's detractors was that they don't like seeing things that make them uncomfortable, while you say that you have a harder time with me than with deluded war criminals.

Congratulations, oxdottir. You've pissed me off as bad as I used to get when I read political blogs on a regular basis and trolls would stop in to say that we liberals deserved to be waterboarded because we dared to question the President. "Differences of opinion are good", you say, but then you say I'm worse than a megalomaniacal war criminal because my opinion is different than yours. Just cut to the chase and say "Differences of opinion are good, but you're a sick piece of shit because you don't find this abhorrent just like me."

Thanks for letting me know where you stand.

PS: I have no problem with anyone else who's disagreed with me on this thread because no one besides oxdottir has implied I'm a sick bastard for defending this. Everyone on VideoSift can downvote this and I won't care, but I don't take remarks like oxdottir's lightly, obviously.

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Did this Drama Queen Deserve to be Tasered? (6:34 min)

justinianrex says...

You know I want to fucking taze everyone who comments on these fucking taser videos who obviously has no idea what it feels like. I'd take the nightstick over the taser. I've been tased before multiple times on more than one occasion. It is no fucking laughing matter.

Imagine the maximum amount of pain your body can feel. Then imagine that pain somehow worsening. That's tasering. Police would never use a nightstick with the impunity that they use tasers. Noncompliance is not a sufficient reason to use a tool like this. I try to remind myself that some people become cops because they want to help people and not because they're looking for a megalomaniacal outlet for their sadistic impulses after they graduate from high school bullying. It's not easy.

Evo Morales (President of Bolivia) on The Daily Show

jonny says...

Frontline/World had an interesting piece on Morales last year: http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/rough/2006/05/bolivia_on_the.html

"Like any good campaign film, On the Road With Evo combines public performance with private moments ... a video that helps to explain Evo's popular appeal while also managing to provide rare glimpses of the man off-stage. In those candid scenes, we meet a person who seems both confident and disarmingly relaxed."

Though he has very close relations with Hugo Chavez, he seems to me to be exactly the opposite kind of populist, i.e., one who is genuinely interested in the welfare of his people, as opposed to a megalomaniacal "revolutionary" interested in little more than concentrating more power in his own hands.

Band Collapses into Fist Fight on Stage

Woland says...

Yeah, he's got definite issues. Check out the trailer (linked in the description) for more megalomaniacal / dorky behavior from Anton and Courtney Taylor.

Tag Cloud tags (Sift Talk Post)

Krupo says...

And yet another reason why goldies are entrusted with great powers - to stifle the temptation to edit 100-200 vids tags' to suit your personal megalomaniacal desire to see your unique tag in the cloud.

That reminds me - I haven't looked at the cloud lately!

... okay, why is "FUNNY" still so high up? That's a bit excessive! We have a "comedy" tag for a reason!

Scientologists Accost Cameraman

choggie says...

The religion has the inherent flaw that all religions have:
The interpretation, implementation, and proselytizing of the same, by bi-pedal Hominoidea.

Upvote for sci-fi writers inventing religions! Better than bi-polar preverts, and megalomaniac egobots.

Bush can't answer question

krustythebaker says...

Hey, 'folks', as he loves to call you all, you kinda voted for a buffoon with some iffy friends. We kinda voted for a megalomaniac whose way of fighting 'the war against terror' is to do away with democracy and justice at every opportunity. Are the police investigating the Republicans over dodgy funding? Are people being jailed because they protest against government policy? Is your government seeking to jail people without access to a lawyer and without reference to a court? Is your government abandoning the legislative process because the legislative chambers aren't doing what they're told? Does your government talk to you like you're a three year-old and rob your candyjar whilst your back's turned? Does your governing party take donations from foreign businessmen and then lie on their behalf whilst closing down domestic factories to remove competition for those businessmen? Don't beat yourselves up, you know you'll vote again in 2008. We don't know when we get to vote.



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