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PFAS: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

newtboy says...

Nonsense. Pre industrial agriculture wasn’t very damaging in most cases…and when it was it was on a minuscule scale compared to industrial agriculture.
Pre industrial building wasn’t excessively environmentally damaging in most cases, certainly not to the point where it endangered the planet or it’s atmosphere.

It's utterly ridiculous hyperbole to say we have to be cavemen to not destroy our environment. We don't even have to revert to pre industrial methods, we just have to be responsible with our actions and lower the population massively. With minor exceptions, pre industrial farming caused little to no permanent damage, and it was almost all easily repairable damage. (With a few exceptions like Rapa Nui that may not have been over farming but cultural damage, we aren't exactly certain what happened there).

I eat berries now, don't you? I grow raspberries, blackberries, black raspberries, blueberries, strawberries, and Tay berries myself. People would be healthier if they ate berries, and they're tasty too. What?!

Yes, around 7 billion need to die (without procreating first). Better than all 9 billion.

There’s a huge difference between being occasionally deadly and so insanely toxic we destroy our own planet in under 200 years to the point where our own existence is seriously threatened.
Edit: toxicity levels matter as much as exposure levels. Cavemen impacted their environment at levels well below sustainability (mostly….the idea they killed the mammoths or mastodons off by hunting is, I believe, a myth….natural environmental changes seem much more likely to be the major influence in their extinction.). Per capita, modern humans have a much larger, more detrimental footprint than premodern humans, exponentially larger….and there’s like a hundred thousand times as many of us (or more) too. We need to reverse both those trends drastically if we are to survive long term.

Yes, progress includes risk, but risk can be managed, minimized, and not taken when it’s a risk of total destruction. We totally ignore risk if there’s profit involved.

This is a night time comedy show, not a science class. I think you expect WAY too much. It points out that there is a problem, it doesn’t have the time, or the audience to delve into the intricate chemical processes involved in the manufacture, use, and disposal of them. It touched on them, and more importantly pointed out how they’ve been flushed into the environment Willy nilly by almost everyone who manufacturers with them.

vil said:

By that logic, Newt, its back to caves and eating berries for everyone. And 7 billion people need to die to make planet Earth sustainable.

Everything civilization does is toxic in some way. Even living in caves was deadly, ask the Mammoths.

I like how youre taking everything responsibly but in this case you might be lumping too many things into one problem. If we strive for any progress at all we have to take risks.

Maybe the consensus will be that we cant handle the production problems and need to ban the poly stuff, but this video was not the compelling analysis that would even push me in that direction.

How robots could end animal captivity in zoos & marine parks

newtboy says...

I'm so on board.
Real life Jurassic Park without the danger the robots might escape and breed.
Also, the opportunity for real ballers to buy a saber tooth tiger to roam around at parties off leash! Woo hoo!
I wanna ride a mastodon.
They could even replace big game hunting, just make them capable of reacting to being shot and boom, time hunts.
*quality possibilities to explore

Digitalfiend said:

@7:06 this is what I wanted to hear...yes please.

Mastodon - Toe to Toes [In-Studio Performance]

Why Avocados Shouldn't Exist

Buttle says...

The story I have read is that honey locusts have thorns because North American elephants (mammoths, mastodons) were once tempted to push them over.

AnimalsForCrackers said:

Did a quick search on your first one because stuff like this interests me.

The prevailing opinion seems to be the most intuitive; the Americas also had a variety of Pleistocene cats/cheetahs (explains the speed) and dogs/hyenas (explains the seemingly uncharacteristic endurance as compared to their Old World "counterparts") which evolved alongside the nigh-extinct family ( Antilocapridae) of which pronghorns are the last living
members.

The second one, I don't know, because the plant got bored one day (as they are wont to do) and decided to spice things up?

Beck Vs Kanye "Loser" Mashup by DJ Steve Porter

ChaosEngine says...

Meh, not really a Kanye fan, but he does have a few decent tunes. Have no time for the guy himself though.

As for the Grammys, they continue to be a fuckin' joke. I like Beck, but Best Rock Album? Seriously? Album of the year, fine, if you think so, but it's not really rock, is it?

And then Tenacious D wins Best Metal Performance? Over Mastodon? over fucking MOTORHEAD?

gimme a break... who's next? Jethro Tull?

The Down-Tuning Experiment

ChaosEngine says...

I dunno. Mastodon seem to manage ok on standard neck length down to A# or even A.

I didn't find this riff "heavy" at all.
It's not the tuning that makes a song heavy, it's a whole bunch of things.

Sepulturas Roots Bloody Roots is in B and Panteras 5 Minutes Alone is in D. Can you honestly say that Roots is that much heavier? Would 5 Minutes Alone be heavier in B?

The riff itself is obviously important, but also what the drums are doing, the production, the tone, etc.

SquidCap said:

C or B, that's the lowest you can go with 22/24 fret guitar.. After that you need to start extending neck to get intonation right and you lose more attack the lower you go. Not to mention that B is ~60Hz, pretty much everything below that don't form decent chords specially with heavy distortion. I have drop B tuning (B-F#-B-E-A-C#) on same looking sunburst Fender strato '80 and i've already run out of room fix intonation (thank goodness for my Rockinger Tremolo bridge circa '81 and it's flexibility..)

Aqua Teen Hunger Force: Movie Intro

Well....that was creepy....(Follow the Sun)

Aqua Teen Hunger Force: Movie Intro

One of the best metal videos you'll ever see

Brann Dailor of Mastodon - This guy can drum

Best Albums of 2010 (Metal Talk Post)

bamdrew says...

p.s. sorry I ignored your 'metal albums' request. not a lot of metal caught my attention in 2010 (unlike 2009... but hey, got Mastodon tickets for Feb in Chicago... maybe 2011 will swing more metal/hardcore again!!!)

Best albums of 2009! (Rocknroll Talk Post)

zombieater says...

A bit late, but here are some for 2009 (with the best 1st):

1) Mastodon - Crack the Skye
2) Malefice - Dawn of Reprisal
3) Between the Buried and Me - The Great Misdirect
4) Architects - Hollow Crown
5) Disarmonia Mundi - The Isolation Game
6) It Prevails - Capture & Embrace
7) August Burns Red - Constellations
Lamb of God - Wrath
9) War from a Harlot's Mouth - In Shoals
10) Born of Osiris - A Higher Place

Drax (Member Profile)

gwiz665 says...

Om nom nom nom.

In reply to this comment by Drax:
Go masticate on one.

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
I live to make you watch a mastodonic space station!

In reply to this comment by Drax:
I posted that like two months ago.. you should find better ways to spend time when you're bored. : )


In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
Hey dude.. I think you should watch it...

In reply to this comment by Drax:
I didn't watch this before.. I'm not watching this now...

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gwiz665 (Member Profile)

Drax says...

Go masticate on one.

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
I live to make you watch a mastodonic space station!

In reply to this comment by Drax:
I posted that like two months ago.. you should find better ways to spend time when you're bored. : )


In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
Hey dude.. I think you should watch it...

In reply to this comment by Drax:
I didn't watch this before.. I'm not watching this now...

I'm not watching this!
I'm not watching this!
I'm not watching this!
I'm not watching this!
I'm not watching this!
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