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Buy These Tickets Or I Take Your Car

Confederate Flag Parade in Georgia. Wait for it....

ChaosEngine says...

Great comment. As someone who grew up in Ireland my only exposure to the flag was on the General Lee. And it's a car that jumps over bridges. That's cool. How can you not love that when you're 7?

It wasn't until years later when I happened to watch a rerun of Dukes that I actually made the connection.

First thought: wow, that is fucked up.

But hey, people were a little racist in the 70s (and 80s too). Hell, everyone was a lot homophobic in the 80s and 90s.

That's no excuse to learn and move on.

TL;DR: the A-team was better anyway.

Sagemind said:

Lets be honest.
Most of didn't know anything about the flag when we were kids.
We all knew it as the flag that was on the roof of the Duke boy's car.
We thought it was cool, becuase it symbolized the General Lee "CAR" Don't forget the horn blast.( https://youtu.be/zAKksqKR3pI )

As we got older, we started to learn more about the flag, and what it represented.
But it's hard to let go of the happy childhood memories of watching the Dukes of Hazard every week and loving the car and the flag. And that is part of what stands in the way of us seeing what the flag symbolizes.
For most of us, we've imprinted a new meaning on the flag, so we don't always see it at a hate flag.

For those who view the swastika, we don't always see the symbol of peace it was for decades before the Nazi's appropriated it. We now only see it for the hate that redefined it.

Just some interesting thoughts....

Edit: I'm not defending the flag and it's use.
I don't celebrate tradition for tradition's sake - I think that's a poor excuse for flying the flag. It does represent bigotry in the Southern States, anyone who says otherwise is a liar.
I'm up in Canada, very detached from the bigotry down there, to me, it's the flag that was on the Duke's car.

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Transgender Rights

ChaosEngine says...

I know this is your latest homophobic tactic.. hey look there's only X% of people are LGBT... they don't matter!

Yeah, actually they fucking do.

Even if your bullshit percentage that you pulled out of your arse was accurate (hint: it's not), that would still be 147,000* people world wide.

* in reality it's closer to 147 million.

bobknight33 said:

And the next insignificant minority to be placed on the liberal mantel of change--- Transgender Rights. Because the 0.0021% matter.

Should gay people be allowed to marry?

dannym3141 says...

Yet this xenophobe still represents our community with his vile attacks on anyone "different" in the eyes of the casual visitor who does not have the experience we do.

Imagine seeing the page as a fresh newbie, seeing some disgusting homophobic rant and seemingly no one batting an eyelid at it.

eric3579 said:

That ignore button does wonders, I promise you. Also if you can't help yourself there is always http://videosift.com/talk/Completely-Erase-Entire-Comments-from-People-Youre-Ignoring

Just sayin

Should gay people be allowed to marry?

Asmo says...

Because we want racist, homophobic, ostensibly "straight" but showing all the signs of being a closeted self loather morons like yourself to suffer under the gay tyranny!!

Change is coming/has come/will keep coming, and there's not a fucking thing you can do about it. You're impotent, flaccid, unable to become erect, a floppy fossil that has already passed in to irrelevance. You can rant and rave and troll to your hearts content, but if you really feel that strongly about it, prepare to be fucking disappointed bitch! ; )

bobknight33 said:

Exactly

What gives the gay agenda the right to impose their " morals" onto others?

Should gay people be allowed to marry?

dannym3141 says...

Firstly, i don't remember seeing an american referendum on gay marriage, so i don't know what makes you think your "WE" decided anything.

But did i really just see this troglodyte compare consensual same-sex relationships to paedophilia - child rape - like there was no difference?

You are fucking sick in the head - genuinely disturbing and offensive homophobic point of view. This is not the 1930s.

Is this allowed on the sift? Imagine a gay person reading this... and being told they are morally equal to paedophiles? Being told that this community tolerates people who compares them so? Surely this is an offensive and inflammatory insult. I feel as though choggie has been banned for less in the past. I'm disgusted.

bobknight33 said:

And WE have decided that gay marriage is wrong and will not be tolerated.

NAMBLA probably has a bigger demographic. Either way should they be recognized?

Should gay people be allowed to marry?

bobknight33 says...

Racist, bigot and homophobic have nothing to do with this argument, Yet another straw man argument from the left.

The question really becomes Why should 1% demographic force the 99% to change its thinking?



http://www.gallup.com/poll/182837/estimated-780-000-americans-sex-marriages.aspx?utm_source=SAME_SEX_RELATIONS&utm_medium=topic&utm_campaign=tiles

Approximately 0.3% of adults in the U.S. are married to a same-sex spouse, and another 0.5% identify as being in a same-sex domestic partnership

ChaosEngine said:

Yeah, fuck those 280 million gay people! Look at them... asking for rights like real people. They should just crawl back to their holes so bob can continue his racist, bigoted, homophobic, uneducated ways without fear of seeing anything that he doesn't like.

Btw, there are more gay people than people named bob. Does that mean you can't marry either? For the sake of the women of the world, I can only hope so.

Should gay people be allowed to marry?

FlowersInHisHair says...

Your use of the word "sodomite" seems to suggest a fixation on the sex act. Why do homophobes seem to focus on that as if it's the only thing that matters? It's so bizarre.

Sniper007 said:

The reason sodomites insist on receiving extrinsic, public sympathy and support is because their lifestyle has no intrisic virtue. Every sodomite is by definition an evolutionary dead-end, and that community struggles with suicide and depression far more than the general populace - for a reason.

Should gay people be allowed to marry?

ChaosEngine says...

Yeah, fuck those 280 million gay people! Look at them... asking for rights like real people. They should just crawl back to their holes so bob can continue his racist, bigoted, homophobic, uneducated ways without fear of seeing anything that he doesn't like.

Btw, there are more gay people than people named bob. Does that mean you can't marry either? For the sake of the women of the world, I can only hope so.

bobknight33 said:

Why should any society capitulate for such an insignificant demographic group?

Statically speaking Gays are not even on the radar. Gays make up less then 4% of population. Just because gays have a larger demographic in media and hence have a greater opportunity promote their cause still does not change that fact that they are insignificant in the eyes of society.

And WE have decided that gay marriage is wrong and will not be tolerated.

NAMBLA probably has a bigger demographic. Either way should they be recognized?

Bill Maher Explaining Jokes To Idiots

ChaosEngine says...

Bill's only crime here was really only that it wasn't a very funny bit.

As for the "PC Police", most of the time, I think "PC gone mad" is just said by the likes of Jeremy Clarkson who are just upset that they're not allowed call people darkies or poofs anymore* but in this case it's just lazy journalists looking to drum up faux outrage.

* because that's what they are right? I mean, it's not racist or homophobic, that's just facts. Why are you all looking at me like that?

Red Neck trucker says NO to this blonde trying to merge...

Lawdeedaw says...

Actually, my mind is very easy to change. From being homophobic, to hating certain skin colors, I realize how stupid I was growing up as a person and how I had to unteach myself a lot of things.

As for my post; judgment is one thing. I do judge the car driver (And I judge the truck driver, although much less...) When that car intentionally rammed the truck it put not only their own lives in danger but other lives as well. That sort of accident can cause major destruction when 10 more are added to the equation.

I am glad neither the car's driver nor the truck driver were truly hurt. I am glad that people in our country only need to pay higher premiums in situations like this. That is a good thing and justice isn't wanting them dead...

If you are talking about my hatred for major corporations, then not sure where I shouldn't judge. Major for-profit healthcare providers, evil, evil. Same with car/personal injury-healthcare providers.

Sagemind said:

I'm happy to live a whole country away from your kind of judgement and justice. I'm not trying to be rude, but you let personal judgement cloud your vision and miss-represent the facts.

I know I'll never change your mind, nor will I try to. But you need to know what your statements sound like to others around you.

Sorry to hear about your family, I hope they are alright. I too was in an accident with my kids six months ago. Physically, they were fine, but my son is still shaken as he sees the car hit ours over and over, in his mind as it crashed into his side of the car against his door. An accident is a scary thing and sure sobers up a person. but sometimes, you need to slow down and breath. We don't think clearly when we let the adrenalin rule our thoughts.

Louis C.K. Discusses Tracy Morgan's Homophobic Comments

B Dolan-which side are you on?

eric3579 says...

Who let the torch passed fall in the tall grass?
Fire alarm wire’s disarmed, what do you call that?
Call it predictable political cliche
So when the movie ends, the revolution’s dead. Replay
the sequence of events that led to these deep divisions;
I’ve realized that all the wrong people are in prison.
The children wanna know if I believe in the Reptilians!
I tell em ‘I don’t know’ but on the TV I see lizards.
When action was in fashion you were such an easy mimic!
Bumpersticker quote lifting, crib note statistics,
Grasp for the straw man, born again cynics
Fair-weather firebrand; spark my suspicion.
We knew you were the type to take the fight like a gimmick,
and rock the t-shirt when your sweat wasn’t in it.
The clock is still ticking for the victim of the future,
You’re waiting til’ they look like you to ever choose but–
Chorus:
Which Side Are You On?
Which Side Are You On?
(Damn)
Which Side Are You On?
(Ask the Industry.)
Which Side Are You On?
(Ask an Emcee.)
Verse 2:
Who wrote the greatest lines of our generation,
but couldn’t get from under their own small-minded hate trip?
The same rappers say they’re trooping the frontlines,
and casually use the word ‘Faggot’ as a punchline.
That’s not a man, that’s not a tough guy.
That is a sucker and a fraud to the culture!
Hip Hop is folk music grown from the struggle and
half these fools could put the mic down and run as a Republican.
Fuck ‘em then; they learn from their own wrong.
Homophobes don’t go to my shows, we too strong!
And if you’re in the front row, harassing girls during a song
I will reach and ask you exactly–
Chorus:
Which Side Are You On?
Which Side Are You On?
Verse 3:
I’m on the side of poor people getting organized;
I’m on the side of Choice where it is in short supply;
I’m on the side of those the system doesn’t authorize;
L-G-B-T We are on the side of Pride,
Justice and Equality;
Egypt to Wisconsin when they march against the Policy;
If you bringing down a King I’m on your side probably.
Kids’ll give me shit for this it really doesn’t bother me.
They were not around when we were wrestling with poverty.
So I follow none and ask no-one to follow me
Use your own mind, use your heart and your anger
Check yourself because Apathy is a cancer
And let your action be the answer.
Chorus
Which Side Are You On?
(Ask your government)
Which Side Are You On?
(Ask your media)
Which Side Are You On?
(Ask yourself)
Which Side Are You On?
Sample:
Don’t scab for the bosses,
Don’t listen to their lies.
Us poor folks haven’t got a chance
Unless we organize.

Three Hours Of Walking In NYC As A Homosexual Man

kceaton1 says...

Sorry to say, but I have to wait too to see what this video really is. It is "homophobic" in it's own way, just by using the entire notion of "dressed like a homosexual". This reeks of someone trying to do the same thing as the women, as mentioned in posts above. But, was it a real attempt to show something or was it a parody. To me, it seemed to be a mixture of the two.

But, when they use the caption that they did at the start and the statistics at the end, they tried to make it real...so I'm really in the mood to just downvote this outright.

Colbert interviews Anita Sarkeesian

SDGundamX says...

I thought the solution was rather obvious, actually.

You fix things by making games where people are portrayed as... people. Not trophies to be acquired, not sexual objects to be drooled over, and not stereotypes.

You couple that with continued criticism of games that continue to rely on sexist, racist, or homophobic tropes.

And guess what? That's already happening. People have been saying that games need to change for a while before Sarkeesian showed up. Bioware acknowledged the issues and started trying to include more realistic characters in its RPGs years ago--and caught flak for it even back then.

To address your other... points?

My daughter asked me the other day why she can't play as the princess in Super Mario Galaxy 2 (or any of the other Mario games we own). And I had to tell her it's because the Princess got kidnapped. Her response was to ask if she could play as the Princess once we freed her from Bowser. And I had to tell her no.

There is something wrong with that!

After having that conversation with my daughter I fired up Torchlight, where I'm currently playing as a Vanquisher. Vanquisher's are rogue-like ranged characters and can only be female. If you want to be a warrior ("Destroyer" in game terms) or magic user ("Alchemist" in game terms), sorry--it's a men's only club. And not only that, but Vanquisher's--regardless of the armor they wear, must bare their midriff and wearing a mini-skirt showing lots of leg and cleavage (do a google image search for Torchlight Vanquisher to see what I'm talking about). Apparently you can't be a Vanquisher without being a sex pot too.

There is something wrong with that! (To be fair, they got better with Torchlight II and allowed any class to be any gender and allowed the women to cover up with armor OR choose to be sexy).

Society doesn't just change by itself. You're right, society is becoming more accepting of diversity--because people are fighting very hard for it.

Take America's attitude towards homosexuality. Look at the strides made in the last 20 years. That didn't just magically happen. There were TV shows that portrayed homosexuals as human beings worthy of respect. There were lawsuits. There were marches and protests. There were speeches. There were YouTube campaigns like "It gets better." A lot of people worked fucking hard to get the message out that bigotry is not okay.

Look, I'm sorry people pointing out to you how fucked up it is how women are sometimes portrayed in games is somehow ruining your ability to enjoy games. But there are serious problems here. Maybe not problems for you, but problems for people like my daughter.

The solution to these problems is not to lambast the people pointing them out. Nor is the solution to sit back and do nothing and hope it all works out for the best. One solution, as I've already stated, is to be openly critical of the messages contained in ALL media (including games). Another solution is to be vocal about the need for more realistic and diverse portrayals of people in ALL media (including games).

You can still have your Damsel/Dude in Distress trope, by the way. I have no doubt lazy developers will continue to use it as a substitute for meaningful story. Just don't expect people not to call out the utter absurdity of it, is all I'm saying.

Asmo said:

Yes, she's great at pointing that out.

What's the solution?

Quota's of protagonists sex? Replacing "damsel" with "prince" in distress? Getting rid of chainmail bikinis?

Oh, and how do we propagate that to the entire entertainment industry?

There is nothing wrong with playing a prince and rescuing a princess. There is nothing wrong with the princess being helpless. There is nothing wrong with Femmeshep kicking the shit out of the reapers and saving every being in the known universe, one of the most badass female protagonists around. More female protagonists = great, bring it on, but that's no reason to throw out a trope as old as time (incidentally, a trope enjoyed by a great many women who like to watch sappy romances where the charming fellow rescues the woman from her crappy life...).

Her series predicates on the concept that players are too fucking dumb to understand the difference between real life and the game. That if you play Duke Nukem, you'll walk around slapping girls tits and saying the most inappropriate things you can think of.

It's exactly the same tripe that Jack Thompson was peddling back in the day, games change how you think. And, for most people (ie. the mentally stable...), it was wrong then and it's wrong now. Your upbringing and parental guidance, and the relationship your male role models have with women, are far more likely to determine whether or not a man is likely to be sexist/misogynist than a few games with scantily clad girls needing a big strong man to save them... Society has changed to become more accepting of race, creed, sexual orientation and, of course, women, and it will continue to become so even if the old trope of the princess is in another castle hangs around. It may take generations before inequality dies out, if it ever does. It's not something you can fix by complaining about games.



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